Blazej_Holen Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Bolg IS lower than Azog.. about half a head lower. Lego can make him just like azog, He will look better too, cause he has soulderpads hiding the mold's edges, and he has iron spikes on his chest wich could hide the edge of the mold there too. BOLG Nope, Bolg was higher than Azog, look at the scene when they meet in Dol Guldur on the bridge in front of one of those spiky gates... Bolg was really bigger.
Yooha Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 At the bridge in Dol Guldur I saw them equally tall.
narbilu Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 I really hope for some decent battlepacks and one bigger set to make the Battle of 5 armies complete... something like this: Battlepacks (size of standard SW battlepacks like 9489) Woodland Elves · 1 elf with dagger, 1 elf with bow · 2 armoured orcs · 1 eagle · small scene - containing 50 bricks Dwarves of the Iron Hill · 1 dwarf with axe, 1 dwarf with hammer · 1 armoured orc · 1 warg · small scene - containing 50 bricks Men of Lake Town · 1 man with spear, 1 man with sword · 2 orcs, one armoured · 1 giant bat · small scene - containing 50 bricks Battle at the Lonely Mountain (size like battle of black gate) · the three commanders, Thorin, Thranduil and Bard · 2 armoured orcs and Bolg · 1 bear and 1 giant bat · part of Erebor - containing 500 bricks
Deathleech Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 At the bridge in Dol Guldur I saw them equally tall. Same. They appeared to be different heights as they were walking up to each other, but once they got to the middle of the bridge and stood across from one another their height looked identical. I think PJ did this on purpose to show how similar father and son were.
Darth Caedus Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 I really hope for some decent battlepacks and one bigger set to make the Battle of 5 armies complete... something like this: Battlepacks (size of standard SW battlepacks like 9489) Woodland Elves · 1 elf with dagger, 1 elf with bow · 2 armoured orcs · 1 eagle · small scene - containing 50 bricks Dwarves of the Iron Hill · 1 dwarf with axe, 1 dwarf with hammer · 1 armoured orc · 1 warg · small scene - containing 50 bricks Men of Lake Town · 1 man with spear, 1 man with sword · 2 orcs, one armoured · 1 giant bat · small scene - containing 50 bricks Battle at the Lonely Mountain (size like battle of black gate) · the three commanders, Thorin, Thranduil and Bard · 2 armoured orcs and Bolg · 1 bear and 1 giant bat · part of Erebor - containing 500 bricks I can pass on a Lakemen BP since we've got the polybag. Any Elf BP should be exclusively armored Elves with shields and spears. An Iron Hills Dwarf BP would be pretty solid though. If we get more Wargs, let them be black or light brown to round out the color palette.
Fives Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 I can pass on a Lakemen BP since we've got the polybag. Any Elf BP should be exclusively armored Elves with shields and spears. An Iron Hills Dwarf BP would be pretty solid though. If we get more Wargs, let them be black or light brown to round out the color palette. The Lake-men polybag isn't as accessible to everyone around the world, so a BP would be a miracle. And I really hope they give Bolg a brown Warg, rather than anything special. That way I can give him my one grey Warg, so then Azog and Bolg's steeds match a bit better. I also think that, rather than having multiple BPs that focus on one army each, they could make one or two bigger army builders that give us a mix of all three good armies, as well as some orcs and various beasts. As with Erebor, perhaps a smaller set focused on the gate and battle could be made, and then added on to a larger Erebor, perhaps with Smaug.
narbilu Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 I would particularry like if they made a Giant Bat (buildup like the Eagle with 4 studs on the back and seperate wings)
deskp Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Nope, Bolg was higher than Azog, look at the scene when they meet in Dol Guldur on the bridge in front of one of those spiky gates... Bolg was really bigger. I have looked at the scene and can tell you with certainly Bolg is lower than Azog. they looked raletively the same as they walk up to eachother, but once they are standing face to face Azog is looking down on him. Don't be fooled by the part where Bolg is walking past the other orcs, he is obv alot bigger than those.
Deathleech Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) I have looked at the scene and can tell you with certainly Bolg is lower than Azog. they looked raletively the same as they walk up to eachother, but once they are standing face to face Azog is looking down on him. Don't be fooled by the part where Bolg is walking past the other orcs, he is obv alot bigger than those. Both are listed as being over 7 feet tall, I am trying to find exact heights though. Bolg was originally to be played by Conan Stevens who is 7'1" and I don't think Azog is much taller than 7 feet tall. When the camera is panned out and they are both at the middle of the bridge they looked nearly identical in height. Edited December 16, 2013 by Deathleech
zylek Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 I agree, Bolg did look taller initially but as they got closer, the heights seem to even out to the point where they looked the same to me.
Faefrost Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 That is Dwalin, and while the armour is the same, the head is different - no armour plate screw to the forehead. Also, I stumbled across a short interview with PJ (I can't find the link anymore), and in it he states that form the beginning, he wanted Smaug to be huge, and they used the basis of his head being the size of a bus, and then make everything else proportion to that. So putting that into perspective, think of the size of a typical LEGO bus. Perhaps something like the green bus in this set: http://thecityfix.com/files/2010/09/LEGO-City-Transport-Station.jpg If that is the basis of the head of the dragon, LEGO will have a massive set on their hands. Lego routinely uses selective compression to communicate the feel of an item or play set. They aren't giving us actual scale models. They aren't going to make a Smaug that is half the length of an actual car requires 5000 pieces and needs 3 people to lift. Remember Helm's Deep was nicely compressed and still came off as communicating the scene. Black Gate was ...compressed... And still sorta looks like Aragorn and Gandalf knocking on the door. The main requirements for Smaug seem to be he will need to be small enough and sturdy enough to be swoosh able. But large enough to be towering over the Dwarf Minifigs. I think something around the Size of Dragonbolt is where we will find TLG's design and playability sweet spot.
deskp Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Both are listed as being over 7 feet tall, I am trying to find exact heights though. Azog is 7' acording to the chronicles book.
Darth Caedus Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) The Lake-men polybag isn't as accessible to everyone around the world, so a BP would be a miracle. And I really hope they give Bolg a brown Warg, rather than anything special. That way I can give him my one grey Warg, so then Azog and Bolg's steeds match a bit better. I also think that, rather than having multiple BPs that focus on one army each, they could make one or two bigger army builders that give us a mix of all three good armies, as well as some orcs and various beasts. As with Erebor, perhaps a smaller set focused on the gate and battle could be made, and then added on to a larger Erebor, perhaps with Smaug. I agree that a single, 100% generic armybuilder would be ideal for the BO5A - preferable to any spread-out BP arrangement. For example, the ultimate Hobbit BP: The Battle of Five Armies $29.99 Includes: Ruined Dale archway/house with ladders, flickfires, little catapult, all Lego's typical garbage. Should be a good grey/tan stone & red shingle parts pack, modular. This could also be swapped with an Elven tent or something. -1x Mirkwood Elf Armored Warrior w/ gold elf spear and MEA shield -1x Laketown Soldier with sword and LTC boatshield -1x Iron Hills Dwarf -1x Armored Dol Guldur Orc: a fresh Orc design with hair or helmet, 2 significantly different face options -1x Goblintown Goblin (assuming they show up at the BO5A, if not, just another Armored Dol Guldur Orc) -1x Black Gundabad Warg -1x Giant Bat or Eagle - OR if Lego MUST have a named character in their eternal foolishness, make it someone who can be converted to a generic easily, like that Laketown captain of the guard dude, or a Tauriel with different facial expressions (she can easily be headswapped for a female Elf warrior). Leave the Beorn in bigbearform, Bolg, Dain, and other uniques to bigger, non armybuilder sets. Edited December 16, 2013 by Darth Caedus
Fives Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Maybe if Smaug could be similar in length and wingspan to the Republic Gunship, and have the handle to lift him and swoosh him about. Also, a light brick that could light up his belly and his mouth.
Risgrynsgrot Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Maybe if Smaug could be similar in length and wingspan to the Republic Gunship, and have the handle to lift him and swoosh him about. Also, a light brick that could light up his belly and his mouth. That's way too small. Make him 2 feet long, atleast.
Fives Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 That's way too small. Make him 2 feet long, atleast. Think realistically. If they made him close to scale with the figs, he'd be as long as Orthanc, if not a little longer. But if they make him in system scale (think of the Venator Cruiser from 2009), then he's still big enough to be a huge creature, bigger than any dragon ever made by LEGO, yet still have realistic playability. Perhaps the neck and tail could add some length, and the wings will make him feel huge, but overall, a Gunship/Venator sized Smaug could do the trick. Although, he would be the main and likely only build in nah set he's in.
Alfadas Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 2 feet is about 60 cm? Sign me up for that!
deskp Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Thats a great orc face, shame we will proapbly never get a Fimbul minifigure. Lego could do with making some more featured orcs. Edited December 16, 2013 by deskp
Deathleech Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Is getting multiple battle packs for the BO5A even realistic? Would Lego actually do this seeing as how we have only gotten, at most, 1 big $30 army builder type set each wave? I would love them to break everything down into proper $15 army builders for each raced so people have options (some people may want tons of dwarves and have no interest in the Hobbit, some may only want only elves, etc.). I am just not sold Lego would actually do it which is a shame. I would hope at the very least we get a single $29.99 BP set. That's still going to kind of suck though, how do I build a dwarf army without massing even more elves and Laketown soldiers, or mass any single army for that matter without having to pay $5 per figure on BL?
BrickBob Studpants Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Thats a great orc face, shame we will proapbly never get a Fimbul minifigure. Lego could do with making some more featured orcs. Yeah, Fimbul apparently dies in DoS and will thus not be featured in any TABA sets (at least according to the LOTR wiki where he's mentioned being killed by Legolas, I didn't notice despite having seen the film twice)
Risgrynsgrot Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 I'd like an Exclusive Smaug set for 150+ bucks. That way we could get a HUGE brickbuilt Dragon. It would only need Smaug, but maybe a small dragon treasure too? Like a brickbuilt little pile of treasure to put Smaug on.. Throw in some minifigs, maybe Bilbo in the Laketown outfit from DOS?
Hammerhand Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Thats a great orc face, shame we will proapbly never get a Fimbul minifigure. Lego could do with making some more featured orcs. What's this picture from? It looks awesome, I wish lego would make orcs like this.
Mr Breden Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 Yeah, Fimbul apparently dies in DoS and will thus not be featured in any TABA sets (at least according to the LOTR wiki where he's mentioned being killed by Legolas, I didn't notice despite having seen the film twice) I wouldn't blame you for not noticing, it happened very quickly, Legolas killed him in Laketown.
deskp Posted December 16, 2013 Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Yeah, Fimbul apparently dies in DoS and will thus not be featured in any TABA sets (at least according to the LOTR wiki where he's mentioned being killed by Legolas, I didn't notice despite having seen the film twice) He gets catapulted off a boat and legolas cuts his head off in the air. We can hope a smaug/laketown set mixes in some figs from other scenes. New tauriel, Fimbul, Alfrid and Bard(obv) would be good. Bolg we prapby get in another taba set. What's this picture from? It looks awesome, I wish lego would make orcs like this. It's from the videogame trailer Edited December 16, 2013 by deskp
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