Alcarin Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 Ofc its dreaming :P The ideal would be to get packs of 4 identical figs with no extra bricks all armed with shields + spear/sword/whatever and extra quiver + bow/x-bow to decide if you want archers or 1st line combatants..... and they would cost 8$ which would be 2$ per fig.... but we all know its never gonna happen just like the one above :D As it looks I will be happy if we even get a new mold for Iron Hills dwarf warrior let alone if we get more than 1 in the next wave lol
Deathleech Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 (edited) Yes, that would be even better! Like the Fantasy Castle battle packs that had 5 minfigires with just weapons for $15. That would be $3 per minifigure +weapons, not bad at all especially if it was the same price for licensed characters. Of course Lego could NEVER do this with LotR/Hobbit, even if they wanted to since other companies hold the action figure license and those would technically count as action figures. Maybe they could just get the LotR action figure license though since no one currently seems to have it? I think that would be a better seller for them than the current LotR line up of brick built sets, lol. Edited December 22, 2013 by Deathleech
Blazej_Holen Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 My dream wave: £10: Battle of the Five Armies Orc battle pack: 2 orcs, 2 dwarves. The 'building' of the set is a small rock that can explode. £10: Battle of the Five Armies Elf battle pack: 2 armored elves, 2 goblins. The set comes with a small catapult and an Eagle. £30: Bolg's last stand: Fili (in dwarven amour), Kili (in amour), Bolg, 1 generic orc, 1 generic dwarf. It is a small stone cliff that can collapse. £70: Smaug the Tremendous: Bilbo, Thorin, Balin, Gloin, Oin. The set consists of a giant, brick built Smaug! It also comes with a tiny gold pile that contains the Arkenstone. To cheap and many minifigs.
Infernum Posted December 21, 2013 Posted December 21, 2013 Honestly, I don't like the packs with only minifigs. I can't bring myself to buy a set without any parts for MOCs.
Alcarin Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Honestly, I don't like the packs with only minifigs. I can't bring myself to buy a set without any parts for MOCs. Yeah cos you dont build armies.... try getting to 1000 uruk hais with only buying Uruk hai army on retail..... enjoy your credit card explosion :D
legofreak86 Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 (edited) My ideas for next year based on big events of that movie that have been alluded to 3 sets based on the battle of the five armies: each includes parts of a ruined dale which is where the battle appears to take place. Minifigures for set 1: Tauriel,, 3 dwarf warriors, 2 armoured orcs, nori £24.99 set 2: Thranduil (armoured), kili (battle armour), 3 elf warriors (armoured), 2 armoured orcs, Thorin (BO5A) £34.99 set 3: Bilbo, bard (armoured?), Bolg (armoured?), 3 of whatever army men have 2 armoured orcs £39.99 £100: Dol Guldur assault: Includes huge fortress of Dol Guldur with ruined arch ways and platforms and bridges and walkways about size of helm's deep. Minifigures: Gandalf (injured), Galadriel, Saruman, Radagast the brown, Armoured Elrond, Sauron (black armoured version seen in DOS) 3 orcs or maybe ring wraiths. Set also includes white warg, Elrond and Gandalf's horses. £130 Smaug attacks: Includes giant either moulded or brick built Smaug with all the details and pose-ability also includes Guard tower with wind-lance bow and black harpoon arrow launching mechanism, also includes bard's house with a reasonable interior and destructing functions also includes curved foot-bridge which leads to the town hall with wooden platform. There is also a big statue of the master with falling down and exploding feature (because we are all hoping Smaug destroys that in TABA). Also includes two rowboats and a warg. Minifigures: Bard. Bofur, oin, tauriel(casual), captain of the guard of laketown. 2 laketown soldiers, Bain (bard's son) and one orc. £150: Erebor incudes huge mountain play-set enclosed so the outside front looks like a mountain with gates and statues and a pathway out. Then the inside has various walkways and chambers including the throne of the king and a chamber with lots of gold the west guardroom with skeletons and the armoury. Minfigures: Thorin (BO5A), Bilbo Baggins, Beorn (bear form), Azog the defiler, Bolg, Dain iron foot, balin, dwalin, gloin, 2 armoured orcs and an eagle and Gandalf the grey. Edited December 22, 2013 by legofreak86
Infernum Posted December 22, 2013 Posted December 22, 2013 Yeah cos you dont build armies.... try getting to 1000 uruk hais with only buying Uruk hai army on retail..... enjoy your credit card explosion :D Yeah, you're right. Still I have like a mental block.
Blazej_Holen Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 Its out oof topic little bit but anyway.. :) I just used basic design of DESKPs "Mirkwood elf watergate" to create one of my own.. here is the result http://www.flickr.com/photos/92826309@N07/11511660895/ This should be the set instead of MEA..but piece count is little bit higher...around 500pcs... anyway, there should be armored guard fig (2 times), mirkwood elf ranger and possibly Thranduil :) Enjoy :)
greeny Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 My ideas for next year based on big events of that movie that have been alluded to 3 sets based on the battle of the five armies: each includes parts of a ruined dale which is where the battle appears to take place. *snip* Those are some nice ideas, but they are far too large and expensive for them to become real sets. I like the idea of making all of the Battle of the five army sets connect with each other though
Flieger Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 I like the idea of making all of the Battle of the five army sets connect with each other though Indeed that is a nice idea, and I can imagine it is a good solution for TLG as well. Combined with battle packs like the Urukhai-army including further parts adding to the sets. The problem would be the combination must work and they must work for themselves. Which is difficult to pull off.
Deathleech Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 I just used basic design of DESKPs "Mirkwood elf watergate" to create one of my own.. here is the result http://www.flickr.co...07/11511660895/ This should be the set instead of MEA..but piece count is little bit higher...around 500pcs... anyway, there should be armored guard fig (2 times), mirkwood elf ranger and possibly Thranduil :) You added a lot of extra foliage and stuff to the tree, I am sure Lego could condense the design to get the piece count right around the same as the current Mirkwood Elf Army set.
Floundie Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 Would LEGO have already designed a Bolg fig before his design was changed? I think they could just rename the figure and still use it. Games Workshop did this:
Blazej_Holen Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 You added a lot of extra foliage and stuff to the tree, I am sure Lego could condense the design to get the piece count right around the same as the current Mirkwood Elf Army set. Actualy the foliage, pathway etc takes small amount of pieces really...the main piece count is used on rockwork and main wall with the gate... the wall is 3-4 studs wide wooden bridge and 8 studs tall (including battlements) ... total length is 24 studs...so if TLG remove the landscape surroundings and make smaller tree it will be bigger than MEA anyway... :) But its a pity that they didnt do set like this instead of MEA...
Deathleech Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 Ya, it looks like you used roughly ~30 pieces on foliage, plus a few dozen more on the tree. You could probably cut the tree in half and take out all the foliage so that's about 50 pieces removed right there. You could also get rid of the green plates everything is sitting on since Lego rarely does that anymore, usually the base is only a stud or two wider than what's sitting on it. That's another 20-30 pieces gone. Now just remove the rocks and take out some details and you are probably down another 100 pieces, putting it right around the 300 piece count similar to Mirkwood Elf Army.
Blazej_Holen Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 Ya, it looks like you used roughly ~30 pieces on foliage, plus a few dozen more on the tree. You could probably cut the tree in half and take out all the foliage so that's about 50 pieces removed right there. You could also get rid of the green plates everything is sitting on since Lego rarely does that anymore, usually the base is only a stud or two wider than what's sitting on it. That's another 20-30 pieces gone. Now just remove the rocks and take out some details and you are probably down another 100 pieces, putting it right around the 300 piece count similar to Mirkwood Elf Army. Yep you´re rigth but if I do this, I will be not satisfied with the creation anymore :) Its to smale (in Lego scale) anyway :)
BrickBucket Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 (edited) Moved to other thread Edited December 24, 2013 by BrickBucket
deskp Posted December 23, 2013 Posted December 23, 2013 Would LEGO have already designed a Bolg fig before his design was changed? I think they could just rename the figure and still use it. Games Workshop did this: Well game workshop was selling it as BOLG for a year before they cahnged names, LEgo has not been selling him at all. Lego did design a fiigure of that design yes, did it enter practical production, we don't know.
naf Posted December 24, 2013 Posted December 24, 2013 That set would be awesome, I wish lego would have used a design like this instead of the wall used in MEA. It would pair well with the barrel escape set as well, and would reduce the complaints that this wave is nothing but a bunch of random walls. Its out oof topic little bit but anyway.. :) I just used basic design of DESKPs "Mirkwood elf watergate" to create one of my own.. here is the result http://www.flickr.co...07/11511660895/ This should be the set instead of MEA..but piece count is little bit higher...around 500pcs... anyway, there should be armored guard fig (2 times), mirkwood elf ranger and possibly Thranduil :) Enjoy :)
SandMirror38 Posted December 24, 2013 Posted December 24, 2013 Blazej_Holen would you be able to PM the LDD file?
deskp Posted December 24, 2013 Posted December 24, 2013 @Blazej_Holen after watching the movie a couple more times I've updated my version to be more accurate. -the little "tower" things that point out are alot flatter than what I had previously. and in the movie they trail down a fair bit. looks a bit plainer but alot more like the movie. - the sides of the river are more like an edge, than they are flowing into beach type thing. - the exit side of the gate has pieces of land on each side that the orcs uses to climb up onto the gate on each side of the waterfall.
atreyu2112 Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Deskp - that is awesome. I'd definitely buy it.
Darth Caedus Posted December 26, 2013 Posted December 26, 2013 Would LEGO have already designed a Bolg fig before his design was changed? I think they could just rename the figure and still use it. Games Workshop did this: He appears in the flashback to Azanulbizar in the Hobbit, Dwalin fights and wounds him. If Lego wanted to get truly wacky they could give us an Azanulbizar battle pack - Gundabad Orc General, Orcs, and Erebor Dwarves. But that's the only way his design could show up, unless he pops up again in the Battle of Five Armies (he isn't definitively slain in the AUJ flashback)
SandMirror38 Posted December 27, 2013 Posted December 27, 2013 Deskp would you please be able to PM the LDD file for the gate?
csc166 Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Am I alone in wanting a black warg in some future set?
AFOLguy1970 Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 That watergate design looks great! There is probably a way to install a lever and have a technic function make the gate open and shut. The first two movies seem to allude to a rescue by Galadriel at Dol Guldur. Elrond and Saruman would likely be present as well. Although Dol Guldur is now represented by two sets, perhaps there is one more to be made that involves this battle. Another big set featuring the ruins of Dol Guldur seems unlikely because it is covered well enough and most of the attention would go to BOFA and Smaug, especially the higher priced sets. Therefore, it is hard to imagine a large scale build featuring the White Council vs Sauron as much as I would like to see it. Perhaps a battle pack for the final Dol Guldur battle? So far the formula for a "battle pack" seems to be 6 minifigs for $30 with one figure being unique, a creature, and a build to go along with it. I would go as far to say that a Lorien elf set could surface if Galadriel leads the Lorien elves into battle. Perhaps you would have Galadriel, two Lorien elves, and three Gundabad orcs. Then, you would have maybe part of the fortress to connect to the rest of it. Who knows what the creature would be, maybe a warg or whatever the Lorien host typically rides.
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