Mr. Cube Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 "Ya, no fighting actually happens in Erebor, at least not in the book."...oh yeah...and we don´t know what PJ did with this scene(s)... :)
Blazej_Holen Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 I would join to the group of folks who want to see 130 bucks Erebor set...it will be a great bacground to the BoFA, and we will get the main structure of the whole story, which is the Lonely Mountain/Old Dwarven kingdom/homeland of Thorin Oakenshield, so my suggest or wishis is: 1. Rescue form Dol Guldur Sauron, Gandalf (he will be there almost for sure) and Galadriel OR Galadriel, Saruman and Sauron 2. BoFA battlepack with small construction of Dale with 6 minifigs and one animal/steed maybe Dain Ironfoot on boar (doubt that TLG will relase new mold of steed) so more likely Dain Ironfoot without boar, 2 Iron hill dwarves soldiers with recycled Gimli´s helmet in grey, with axes and round grey printed shields, one armoured elf with printed armour and new helmet (which can be used in case of third wave LOTr (if they make a set which depicts Last Aliance or something like that) and two orcs (new armoured) with Eagle? 3. Smaug attack - Molded Smaug with additional brickbuilt parts, and a house in a size of LTC) with crossbow etc... with Bard, Alfrid, LT citizen/Braga, Bofur (or any Dwarf from those four remaining in LT and maybe Bolg? 4. Battle of five armies - Thorin in armour, Bilbo in blue coat or in mithril armour, 3 armoured orcs with black warg(?), 2 armoured elves, 1 LT guard or soldier and 1 Iron hill dwarf? In total there could be 9 minifigs + steed :) On the other hand I am just curious about the possible large Lake Town Townhall :) .. it would be great to see another addiction to the LTC...
deskp Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 "Ya, no fighting actually happens in Erebor, at least not in the book."...oh yeah...and we don´t know what PJ did with this scene(s)... :) But we know alot of the battle will happen in dale, they buildt a HUGE set for it, and we've seen figthing happen there in the vlogs. (no they would not of buildt all that just for the prologue)
Darth Punk Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 But we know alot of the battle will happen in dale, they buildt a HUGE set for it, and we've seen figthing happen there in the vlogs. (no they would not of buildt all that just for the prologue) Then the question is whether the battle will end in dale or will it move to and end in front of or inside of Erebor. It's really hard to know anymore.
qiadris Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 I mean that whole "black arrow" windlass thing just justified 10 years worth of flick fire missiles in one horrid deus ex machina. Quote of the month.
Fives Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 If the Black Arrow and Windlance are flick-fire, that'd be lame. LEGO needs to be clever and create a unique function. A spring-loaded weapon, like the new spring-loaded weapons seen in the new Star Wars sets, with a special Black Arrow piece would be cool. Alas, knowing LEGO's track record, we're probably in for a flick-fire Windlance with a black missile. Yippee...
legofreak86 Posted January 13, 2014 Posted January 13, 2014 I doubt laketown vs smaug would be the flagship TABA set. Lego have a habit of making the biggest action sequence or second biggest of the hobbits film for the flagship set of the wave. Think about it: 2012 Goblin Town battle was the largest hobbit set, 2013 Dol Guldur was the largest DOS set because they couldn't spoil the final sequence as it had the dragon. So it seems they focus on the climatic sequences for the largest set. I reckon Erebor due to its iconic status and the focus of the quest. I'd reckon it'll be a huge set with about 10 figures like with the 2010 Hogwarts. I'd laugh if we were all wrong and it was a Dol Guldur full fortress set . Although realistically I'd like to see Erebor BO5A finale?, Smaug vs. laketown, Battle in dale, Dol Guldur rescue. I'm going to guess that figure wise my dream scenario would be: Bilbo (blue coat DOS), Bolg, Balin either in armour or DOS styled, Sauron (armour), Galadriel, Smaug, Thorin (BO5A), Bard, Dwarf soldiers, Elf soldiers, Men soldiers, Orcs, Thranduil and Elrond in armour, Bofur (BO5A or DOS), Dain and inevitably perhaps a Gandalf. That would seem realistic and ideal for kids and collectors.
Faefrost Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 I doubt laketown vs smaug would be the flagship TABA set. Lego have a habit of making the biggest action sequence or second biggest of the hobbits film for the flagship set of the wave. Think about it: 2012 Goblin Town battle was the largest hobbit set, 2013 Dol Guldur was the largest DOS set because they couldn't spoil the final sequence as it had the dragon. So it seems they focus on the climatic sequences for the largest set. I reckon Erebor due to its iconic status and the focus of the quest. I'd reckon it'll be a huge set with about 10 figures like with the 2010 Hogwarts. I'd laugh if we were all wrong and it was a Dol Guldur full fortress set . Although realistically I'd like to see Erebor BO5A finale?, Smaug vs. laketown, Battle in dale, Dol Guldur rescue. I'm going to guess that figure wise my dream scenario would be: Bilbo (blue coat DOS), Bolg, Balin either in armour or DOS styled, Sauron (armour), Galadriel, Smaug, Thorin (BO5A), Bard, Dwarf soldiers, Elf soldiers, Men soldiers, Orcs, Thranduil and Elrond in armour, Bofur (BO5A or DOS), Dain and inevitably perhaps a Gandalf. That would seem realistic and ideal for kids and collectors. Ummm? http://www.brickset.com/detail/?Set=79008-1 I'm thinking we don't have enough to determine a patern behind anything that Lego does. (Honestly as much as I love the set designers their pattern of set selection at times can seem a bit odd and occasionally distracted...SQUIRREL!)
BlueberryWaffles Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Ummm? http://www.brickset.com/detail/?Set=79008-1 And I don't really think Dol Guldor was the biggest scene of DOS. Probably the Smaug fight. If the Black Arrow is a flick-fire I will write a very opinionated letter to Lego.
Darth Punk Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Ummm? http://www.brickset.com/detail/?Set=79008-1 I'm thinking we don't have enough to determine a patern behind anything that Lego does. (Honestly as much as I love the set designers their pattern of set selection at times can seem a bit odd and occasionally distracted...SQUIRREL!) Lol, I forget where that is from, been awhile since ive heard that.
SandMirror38 Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Lol, I forget where that is from, been awhile since ive heard that. 'Up'
Darth Punk Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) 'Up' Never saw it, but I know the phrase from before that movie. Edited January 14, 2014 by Darth Punk
legofreak86 Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Good point! Dol Guldur was the second most important sequence storywise in DOS. The second biggest plot point in the film. Really without spoiling the movie's final moments it was the only thing that Lego could've possibly made for the DOS wave flagship set. Notice I said Hobbit not LOTR. LOTR films were made quite a time ago so Lego don't appear to be to fussed what makes the flagship set as long as it is a decent design and looks fun for kids. The Hobbit however warner will influence Lego more on the TABA flagship as with Goblin town as they will want to showcase the biggest part of the movie which is the whole final battle type motif which has been speculated about since the hobbit films were announced. I guess a bit of the battle will take place in erebor as in the pickup final day photos of TABA thorin can be seen with other dwarves fighting in armour looking in a pretty bad way in front of an emerald green set. So Unless the battle is taking place in the emerald city one can deduce that some fighting goes on in erebor. Just a thought.
Faefrost Posted January 14, 2014 Posted January 14, 2014 Good point! Dol Guldur was the second most important sequence storywise in DOS. The second biggest plot point in the film. Really without spoiling the movie's final moments it was the only thing that Lego could've possibly made for the DOS wave flagship set. Second biggest plot point? I'm not saying it's a bad set, or a bad subject for a wave flagship set. But they did have a fairly broad selection of good subjects for the top end. - expanded Lake Town set that includes elves and orcs and Dwarves. - Erebor, main entrance and secret passage. - the Dwarf Forge - Thranduil's Realm, (granted they already did a smaller variant of this) Dol Guldur doesn't make for a bad conflict driven set. But great, well known or even recognizable battle it's not.
kevkipo Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 - the Dwarf Forge Sounds good! Just read the BO5A again, what is it a great scene :D but the dwarf forge sounds really good. in the book they talked about Iron Hill dwarves with forked beards and Shields and other things packed on their back, with a Pickaxe or Axe and a shortsword. So yeah that could be something like a "Dwarf Forge" or "Iron Hill army"
Ashnflash Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 When are these sets coming out? If they come out in Spring then maybe it will be related to the Desolation of Smaug by if its later it could be for There and Back Again! I like the idea of expanding Lake Town maybe we could get the special bow on top of the tower!
Darth Punk Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 Dwarf forge sounds great. I've always been partial toward dwarves. It ,would be great to have some of the inside of Erebor .
Darth Caedus Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 Well, since the effective demise of the LOTR line makes speculating about that pretty pointless, time to dream about the TABA wave. $15 Dol Guldur Attack: Galadriel (serene face and rage face), a molded Sauron, attachable to DGA and DGB. Red Elrond (rage face and worried face) if we're lucky. $30 Dale Showdown: Ruined Dale building, 3x new-mold Dol Guldur Orcs, 1x Armored Mirkwood Elf, 1x Iron Hills Dwarf, 1x Laketown Warrior. Beorn in Bear-form would be the most ideal unique because then you're just armybuilding Beornings, and there's nothing wrong with that. OR! Just put a slightly altered print on an Eagle and call it Gwaihir. $60 The Battle of Five Armies: Armored Thorin (fear face and teeth gritted face), Armored Bilbo (smile face and angry face), Bolg with his warg. Dain with battleboar. Any more minifigs should be, in order of priority - Armored Kili, Armored Fili, Armored Balin. Gate of Erebor or battle terrain, I don't really care that much. You might need to toss in some bats or a DG Orc to balance it a little, idk - this set should be heavy on the good guys since we need Armored Bilbo and Armored Thorin and Dain quite desperately. $130 Smaug The Terrible: Epic, colossal brickbuilt Smaug, Laketown tower with Wind-Lance. Battle-damaged Bard (print is sooty, torn, burned, etc.) with different facial expressions (LTC had wry smile and determined ferocity, Smaug set should have terrified and battle roar). Bain son of Bard (scared face and neutral face). Alfrid (sneer face and terrified face). Laketown Guards x2 - with different face prints. Why not make one or both of them battle-damaged too. If that's not enough minifigs, or also if you want to swap out LT Guards, put in a casual Bofur (solemn face and laughing face) and/or a wounded Kili (smiling lovey dovey face and morgul terror face a la shelob frodo).
Trunkbass Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Well, since the effective demise of the LOTR line makes speculating about that pretty pointless, time to dream about the TABA wave. Who ever spoke of an effective demise of the LOTR line? 2014 is a messy year for LEGO with all the movie sets and stuff. Everything can happen! On topic: your list looks good. I would indeed expect the BO5A-set to have some more bad guys for playability, at least according to 'LEGO-logic'. Armored Dwarfs and Dain on his boar would be epic! Edited January 15, 2014 by Trunkbass
Darth Punk Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) $130 Smaug The Terrible: Epic, colossal brickbuilt Smaug, Laketown tower with Wind-Lance. Battle-damaged Bard (print is sooty, torn, burned, etc.) with different facial exp<b></b>ressions (LTC had wry smile and determined ferocity, Smaug set should have terrified and battle roar). Bain son of Bard (scared face and neutral face). Alfrid (sneer face and terrified face). Laketown Guards x2 - with different face prints. Why not make one or both of them battle-damaged too. If that's not enough minifigs, or also if you want to swap out LT Guards, put in a casual Bofur (solemn face and laughing face) and/or a wounded Kili (smiling lovey dovey face and morgul terror face a la shelob frodo). The Smaug set is intriguing. It's hard to say what direction TLG will go with Smaug. That is assuming we get him, but if we don't that would be a huge disappointment to most people. I was entertaining two other options. The first a molded Smaug that would be included in the $60-70 set. Something along the lines of dragon mountain 70403. It's not too terribly pricey for children who are going to be most excited about getting a Smaug. I know it's less exciting but based on all the previous hobbit sets I feel it's probably the most likely option for,TLG. The other one of course would be a Lego exclusive 2000+ piece brick built behemoth that be a stunning display piece. One that would do justice to the size and stature of Smaug. It would appeal to great deal of people who may or may not care about The Hobbit. It would even appeal to those who are in their dark ages as dragons are a popular mythical creature. My problem with your size set is it may be too pricey for some children's parents and it might be too smalll to do it justice. I can already hear the complaints that they should have made it much,larger. But who knows. Only time will tell. Edited January 15, 2014 by Darth Punk
BrickBob Studpants Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 @Darth Caedus: Those are some great suggestions, pretty realistic I'd say apart from Dain's boar I don't think we'll get both Bear-Beorn and a boar, since they both require new animal molds and we know how stingy TLG usually is with those The only theme I can think of that got more than one new animal mold in the same wave was the Kingdoms theme; the respective farm set introduced chickens and goats which are comparatively small molds The boar might be reusable in other themes, but Beorn surely isn't and I'd rather have the latter if I had to choose
Mr. Cube Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 Lego-Freak: Beorn in his bear form might be easily reusable in other themes...as a bear. :)
Roebuck Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 @Darth Caedus: Those are some great suggestions, pretty realistic I'd say apart from Dain's boar I don't think we'll get both Bear-Beorn and a boar, since they both require new animal molds and we know how stingy TLG usually is with those The only theme I can think of that got more than one new animal mold in the same wave was the Kingdoms theme; the respective farm set introduced chickens and goats which are comparatively small molds The boar might be reusable in other themes, but Beorn surely isn't and I'd rather have the latter if I had to choose I agree we can use the boar in other themes if they do not make it to big. A fair bit bigger than the pig is OK, since the pig is rather small compared too the biggest wild boars, but not monster big. That’s why I do not agree with your conclusion, and prefer the boar over the huge bear TLC can use the brown bear they have in the set, tough I doubt they will! If Dain is riding a boar in the movie, I guess Thranduil will ride his Irish elk to battle, but that has even less chance of becoming a mould
deskp Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 If Dain is riding a boar in the movie, I guess Thranduil will ride his Irish elk to battle, but that has even less chance of becoming a mould Isnt there more Arctic city sets coming? they could do with a elk/reindeer mold right? Make the antlers changeable and change the color? arctic doesent follow natural rules right? That said, thranduil riding his bor to battle, not in battle, the elves should show up before the the battle begins, and we've seen him on foot figthing in dale. Once agains tho, I would rather have perfect minifigures with new molds insetad of more animals.
kevkipo Posted January 15, 2014 Posted January 15, 2014 When are these sets coming out? If they come out in Spring then maybe it will be related to the Desolation of Smaug by if its later it could be for There and Back Again! I like the idea of expanding Lake Town maybe we could get the special bow on top of the tower! TABA check the date: October Well, since the effective demise of the LOTR line makes speculating about that pretty pointless, time to dream about the TABA wave. $15 Dol Guldur Attack: Galadriel (serene face and rage face), a molded Sauron, attachable to DGA and DGB. Red Elrond (rage face and worried face) if we're lucky. $30 Dale Showdown: Ruined Dale building, 3x new-mold Dol Guldur Orcs, 1x Armored Mirkwood Elf, 1x Iron Hills Dwarf, 1x Laketown Warrior. Beorn in Bear-form would be the most ideal unique because then you're just armybuilding Beornings, and there's nothing wrong with that. OR! Just put a slightly altered print on an Eagle and call it Gwaihir. $60 The Battle of Five Armies: Armored Thorin (fear face and teeth gritted face), Armored Bilbo (smile face and angry face), Bolg with his warg. Dain with battleboar. Any more minifigs should be, in order of priority - Armored Kili, Armored Fili, Armored Balin. Gate of Erebor or battle terrain, I don't really care that much. You might need to toss in some bats or a DG Orc to balance it a little, idk - this set should be heavy on the good guys since we need Armored Bilbo and Armored Thorin and Dain quite desperately. $130 Smaug The Terrible: Epic, colossal brickbuilt Smaug, Laketown tower with Wind-Lance. Battle-damaged Bard (print is sooty, torn, burned, etc.) with different facial expressions (LTC had wry smile and determined ferocity, Smaug set should have terrified and battle roar). Bain son of Bard (scared face and neutral face). Alfrid (sneer face and terrified face). Laketown Guards x2 - with different face prints. Why not make one or both of them battle-damaged too. If that's not enough minifigs, or also if you want to swap out LT Guards, put in a casual Bofur (solemn face and laughing face) and/or a wounded Kili (smiling lovey dovey face and morgul terror face a la shelob frodo). Lovely! Time for a tea party! The only thing that is missing is: MORE IRON HILL DWARVES Momma wants a dwarf army
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