Alcarin Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Maybe they will just reuse and change nothing in design but only color.... Its 1 of a kind .... not sure they will overstretch for an average theme.... It seems the most logical.
Seaber Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Witch King and Elrond is probably at Dol Guldur, Smaug is at Lake-town, so the last two sets are probably BOFA. That makes Galadriel look a little more unlikely then, but who knows! Maybe we'll get another LOTR wave with Lorien, and then it won't matter much. The reports are sketchy, but I'm glad they've started coming through. I'm glad Smaug isn't brick built as well. Be interesting to see his arms/wings. If his LEGO design was completed before WETA redesigned him, we could have another Yazneg on a White Warg situation.
BrickBob Studpants Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 I'm glad Smaug isn't brick built as well. Be interesting to see his arms/wings. If his LEGO design was completed before WETA redesigned him, we could have another Yazneg on a White Warg situation. I think TLG had ample time to update the design, by the time the Extended Edition of AUJ hit the market WETA's already finalized the design (note how the claws changed between the theatrical release and the Bluray release)
Fives Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Interesting news. It sounds like we'll be getting a Twilight Witch-King after all. If he has glow in the dark parts, he'll likely be similar to the Army of the Dead. The Smaug sounds slightly disappointing when it comes to size, but if the design is spot on to the character, I think I can forgive the size issue. The last two sets better be BO5A based, with an army builder set in Dale.
Deathleech Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Interesting news. It sounds like we'll be getting a Twilight Witch-King after all. If he has glow in the dark parts, he'll likely be similar to the Army of the Dead. That's what I was thinking when I heard he will be glow in the dark. He may end up looking to much like the Undead Soldiers... As for Smaug, I think the Castle dragon actually works pretty well for him after seeing deskp's comparison. The Castle dragon isn't much shorter than the t-rex but is much longer and thinner. That's pretty much how Smaug is in the films. He is slender and long more than bulky. Of course Lego will need a new mold regardless because the arms/wings are totally wrong, as are other smaller parts like the tail and head, but you get the idea. Maybe the same height as the t-rex but with the slenderness and length of the Castle dragon? I dunno. The total lack of Bo5A set info is kind of disappointing. That's what I was looking forward to most
dr jones Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 Maybe they will just reuse and change nothing in design but only color.... Its 1 of a kind .... not sure they will overstretch for an average theme.... It seems the most logical. They did it for Harry Potter at a time when the theme was practically dead with the Hungarian Horntale :)
atreyu2112 Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) The Witch King in Dol Guldur: I assume this is what we're gonna get, which is fine by me because this also works for Weathertop. But I am also hoping for a LotR Witchking of Angmar in armor as well. So I found 2 different screen shots from the game. He could look like this: Or like this: They seem to be the same except the one in Hobbiton has a hair piece and a different crown. I'm assuming he'll look like that one. Edited January 21, 2014 by atreyu2112
Ridge Montante Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 The one from hobbiton seems most likely. I could live with that,
BrickBob Studpants Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) I'd prefer the one from the console versions of the game (bald) rather than the handheld version (hairy) (or better yet, the ROTK version ) Too bad we haven't heard anything from Huw (brickset.com) yet, his coverage has always been very thorough and enjoyable I hope he attended, but the lack of news is somewhat disturbing Edited January 21, 2014 by Lego-Freak
egg roller Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Personally, I'm disappointed that smaug will be molded. Like it was said above, that big a mold is action figurish. This is lego after all, lets build something. Something like the ninjago dragons but.... better.
jackstatic Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Hey guys! First post here, long time lurker, life long LEGO fan! I just wanted to chime in with a thought, I love the reveals from the London toyfair, and the potential for the next wave of Hobbit sets, but the molded Smaug is, to me a little dissapointing. One thought I was having though with all the talk of a D2C set for the Hobbit was that, if we were to get one still, is there still a chance of Smaug? The reason I bring this up is because a molded Smaug could be a cheap and easy way for LEGO to get the dragon out to kids, while leaving the larger more expensive dragon as a more exclusive set. I only mention this because it wouldn't be unheard of, after all, LEGO did give us the Wizard Duel Set as Well as the Tower of Orthanc. Just my two thoughts on the subject, haven't seen anyone mention this before.
Darth Punk Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Hey guys! First post here, long time lurker, life long LEGO fan! I just wanted to chime in with a thought, I love the reveals from the London toyfair, and the potential for the next wave of Hobbit sets, but the molded Smaug is, to me a little dissapointing. One thought I was having though with all the talk of a D2C set for the Hobbit was that, if we were to get one still, is there still a chance of Smaug? The reason I bring this up is because a molded Smaug could be a cheap and easy way for LEGO to get the dragon out to kids, while leaving the larger more expensive dragon as a more exclusive set. I only mention this because it wouldn't be unheard of, after all, LEGO did give us the Wizard Duel Set as Well as the Tower of Orthanc. Just my two thoughts on the subject, haven't seen anyone mention this before. I mentioned that awhile back about the only way we would get a brick built Smaug would be via a D2C set. I think it's possible. The Smaug set is intriguing. It's hard to say what direction TLG will go with Smaug. That is assuming we get him, but if we don't that would be a huge disappointment to most people. I was entertaining two other options. The first a molded Smaug that would be included in the $60-70 set. Something along the lines of dragon mountain 70403. It's not too terribly pricey for children who are going to be most excited about getting a Smaug. I know it's less exciting but based on all the previous hobbit sets I feel it's probably the most likely option for,TLG. The other one of course would be a Lego exclusive 2000+ piece brick built behemoth that be a stunning display piece. One that would do justice to the size and stature of Smaug. It would appeal to great deal of people who may or may not care about The Hobbit. It would even appeal to those who are in their dark ages as dragons are a popular mythical creature. My problem with your size set is it may be too pricey for some children's parents and it might be too smalll to do it justice. I can already hear the complaints that they should have made it much,larger. But who knows. Only time will tell.
Deathleech Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) It's possible, but personally I hope Lego doesn't do it. If they have a brick built Smaug and a molded one in two different sets, essentially one is going to be "useless" if you buy both sets. Is the molded version going to be his baby or something? I would rather see a D2C set made of Minas Tirith or something not done yet rather than "waste" the spot. I know Lego has done it before, especially in themes like Star Wars where they have a cheaper set then the UCS version with way more detail. I would probably skip the D2C Smaug though unless it was absolutely stunning. It probably wouldn't have any new molds or prints. Heck it probably wouldn't have any minifigures at all. Personally I don't find Lego's organic creatures that amazing anyways. I know it's hard to recreate smooth curves and skin from bricks, but I just find all their brick built dragons really lacking Edited January 22, 2014 by Deathleech
The_Chosen_1 Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 I agree with Deathleech on this one. I will be more than satisfied with a molded Smaug, as long as he's considerably larger than the current Castle version. To include him in a D2C set, as was mentioned, could waste an opportunity for a more necessary set (*ahem* Minas Tirith *ahem*) to be produced.
Roebuck Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Huw from Brickset : "So, there are 4 sets: The small one with Galadriel and the witch king Lake town bell tower has some important character something like bain? in it Battle of the five armies, I don't recall much about that The Lonely Mountain, the one with Smaug in it. Sorry it's so vague, there's so much to take in and not much time to do so!"
Darth Punk Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 I agree with Deathleech on this one. I will be more than satisfied with a molded Smaug, as long as he's considerably larger than the current Castle version. To include him in a D2C set, as was mentioned, could waste an opportunity for a more necessary set (*ahem* Minas Tirith *ahem*) to be produced. I too agree, I,would much rather see a TLoR d2c set. But it's always fun to speculate, however unlikely it may be.
SMC Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 I also agree with everything Deathleech said although being able to miss a big D2C would be good for my wallet
Fives Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 The only time I can think of a D2C set making a regular set redundant in with the Wizard Battle and Orthanc sets. The only reason that worked was because it still allowed Saruman to be available really cheap, while also having the option of the big set. Plus, it's different with creatures. Having a molded Smaug in one set, and then a big brick built version as another set is just plain stupid and wouldn't be a smart move for LEGO. One set would end up outselling the other (likely the cheaper option), and they'd have just ended up wasting money. My guess is that we won't get another LOTR D2C. We already got Orthanc. That's enough. Minas Tirith can be done like Helm's Deep. If we are lucky enough and LEGO treats us to another Middle-Earth D2C, I'd want Erebor. Hands down, it would become one of the greatest sets ever. From the sounds of it, the Erebor set that's in store for us this October will be a huge let down (people think its similar to the Balin's Tomb set). If that set focuses only on the interior of the mountain, than a D2C that features more of the outs e would be a welcome addition. LEGO could even be clever a make the Erebor interior set fit snug inside a large mountain exterior. The D2C could basically be a super sized version of the Lone Ranger mine set. Have the gate, with the two massive statues flanking either side, all in sand green with accents of dark tan and nougat to represent rust and dirt. Then, have light and dark grey rock surrounding the gate, creating the stone 'frame' that the gate sits in. This bit to go up and tapper to a point, representing the 'top' of the mountain (or at least above the gate). Then, some more stone could come out from the sides of the statues and fill out the sides. The left statue (if being viewed from the front) could have the steps that lead up to the Doorstep, which could essentially be the furthest point from the gate on the left side. The door would be there, and that would lead inside. The inside could have some details [maybe some basic connections for the smaller interior set to connect to, along with maybe a bunch of gold bricks (just basic, 2 by 4 bricks) stacked on the mountain floor to represent the piles of gold]. Then the smaller Erebor set could be fitted in sections to the inside of the mountain, filling the interior with rooms such as the Throne Room, the Guard Room/Armory (where all those corpses and skeletons were), and even a smaller version of the furnaces (just a single furnace, maybe the he aight of one and a half figs), along with walkways and pillars to connect everything together. Figs could include: Balin, Dwalin, Fili, Kili, and maybe some of the other Dwarves (all in their BO5A attire), perhaps Beorn in his bear form (a new mold, similar in size to the Dewback), and maybe some orcs or Bolg with a Warg or two. This list assumes that BO5A versions of Thorin and Bilbo are included in the interior Erebor set. Bolg could be in either set. LEGO has never really made a D2C that's 'modular', but Erebor would be a really cool way of introducing the idea.
Darth Punk Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 The only time I can think of a D2C set making a regular set redundant in with the Wizard Battle and Orthanc sets. The only reason that worked was because it still allowed Saruman to be available really cheap, while also having the option of the big set. Plus, it's different with creatures. Having a molded Smaug in one set, and then a big brick built version as another set is just plain stupid and wouldn't be a smart move for LEGO. One set would end up outselling the other (likely the cheaper option), and they'd have just ended up wasting money. . There isn't much difference between those two examples. A molded Smaug is,obviously geared toward children. Where as a brick built Smaug would be directed at AFOL. Just because you buy the brick built version doesn't mean you wouldn't buy the set with the molded one in it. Most likely it would be just the opposite. Not to mention that many here have previously stated a desire for a brick built Smaug. And once we actually see the molded Smaug the desire,for a brick built version could easily return. But it's all academic really, the likelihood of it happening are extremely unlikely. I doubt we will see any d2c for The Hobbit.
The_Chosen_1 Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 My guess is that we won't get another LOTR D2C. We already got Orthanc. That's enough. Minas Tirith can be done like Helm's Deep. Why discount the idea though? Are you saying that if you had the choice between the two, you'd pass up a D2C Minas Tirith for a smaller version?
Fives Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Why discount the idea though? Are you saying that if you had the choice between the two, you'd pass up a D2C Minas Tirith for a smaller version? Yes, I'd prefer a smaller version. Sure, a huge D2C Minas Tirith would be amazing, but I would rather have something smaller, similar in size to Helm's Deep, that can be displayed without having to dedicate it to its own table. I have the Death Star set, and it takes up a huge amount of space. A D2C Minas Tirith would be pretty damn similar, and I just don't have the space for it. This is my current Helm's Deep setup. Hopefully the link works: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/v/t34/1527925_10200334753410822_1040758529_n.jpg?oh=2a33659074873f5e2a4519f9519012f4&oe=52E22DF1&__gda__=1390563509_bbfab5d71532de47e43f9cedfeeae18f What I would like is for a Minas Tirith set to be able to sit nicely where Helm's Deep is (although more centred in the battlefield, but you get the idea), so something similarly sized would be ideal. That way, the battlefield itself is still quite large.
Deathleech Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Minas Tirith would probably be more tall than wide, unlike Helm's Deep that is really long but narrow. Because of this Minas Tirith would probably take up less surface area and be easier to display. Edited January 22, 2014 by Deathleech
Fives Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 Minas Tirith would probably be more tall than wide like Helm's Deep so it would take up less surface area. It would be taller in the back, where the citadel and huge triangular rock is, but the front wall and gate could be very wide, especially if there is a Uruk-Hai Army style wall extension set. The main curved wall in Helm's Deep curves around and fits snug on one A baseplate. I'm hoping that a Minas Tirith set would have the wall curve a little less, so adding curved extensions would mean that a complete first level wall could comfortably cover one and a half A baseplates.
Deathleech Posted January 22, 2014 Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) I'm imagining a Minas Tirith being about as wide as Helm's Deep with it's one deepening wall piece (the part that has the stream and blows up). Any add on sets would ideally be curved so they wouldn't be straight out, they would just round the set out more. I am picturing the front gate of Minas Tirith with a little wall section on each side and any add on walls would only expand the wall out a bit, but would curve back towards where the mountain is more than just be a straight jut out like the Helm's Deep walls. In your display a Minas Tirith with several wall add ons would probably cover most the gray base plates in the center with a few studs on each side to spare and half a base plate or so in the front not being taken up. Edited January 22, 2014 by Deathleech
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