kevkipo Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Just have to wait till we get those straigh on pictures in high quality! I am very happy we are getting Thranduil in him normal clothes. You can already see the High Quality sets Thandruil looks amazing! We can both be happy!
zylek Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 So for missing main characters, we would still need a Galadriel (Maybe in LOTR wave), Beorn in bear form, and Smaug. Assuming the BOFA plays out somewhat like the book, we'll need more orcs, armored Elves, armored Men, Iron Hills Dwarves and maybe more Eagles and Wargs. I'm holding out hope that the 3rd Hobbit wave will have an elaborate Erebor Front Gate set with those cool giant statues. They could do a separte treasure room set that could connect and then maybe another smaller add on set ala Uruk Hai Army with the Helms Deep wall extensions.
Ardelon Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Friends animals would be too darn scary for Middle Earth!! I find the Goblins nicer to behold!!! Only creatures tortured for a millennium by Morgoth would turn out like a friends animal, their eyes evidently are a production of being hidden in the dark for years!!!! Well, so long as they change the print, they can keep the mould... We'll see whether Rhosgobel appears in the next two films, if so, I would expect a set - it's a nice compact build, with conflict (Spiders and who knows what else) and potential for play features, and a chance to get Radagast in a more moderately priced set...
Alfadas Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Assuming the BOFA plays out somewhat like the book, we'll need more orcs, armored Elves, armored Men, Iron Hills Dwarves and maybe more Eagles and Wargs. Make that definitely! We only have 2 Eagles (one in a very expansive set, not everybody can buy that) and with the next wave 3 Wargs. That is not really much, is it. Orcs you never have enough of, the same for armored elves and just regular nameless Dwarves (not like Thorin or Bombur).
Mutant Orc Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Well, so long as they change the print, they can keep the mould... True. I would love that set actually as long as the quality is more Bag End-y, first wave-y quality, not poor like this new Hobbit wave.
Deathleech Posted October 21, 2013 Posted October 21, 2013 Make that definitely! We only have 2 Eagles (one in a very expansive set, not everybody can buy that) and with the next wave 3 Wargs. That is not really much, is it. Orcs you never have enough of, the same for armored elves and just regular nameless Dwarves (not like Thorin or Bombur). A Bo5A set is going to have to exclude some things. You have to figure at least 2-3 slots will be taken up by named characters. I would prefer to get Iron Hill Dwarves, armored Mirkwood Elves, Men of Laketown, and maybe some more Orcs for the rest of the minifigures in a Bo5A set. Especially the former since we havn't seen them at all yet (other than the single human guard in Laketown Chase). Since we already have two sets with Wargs (one of which is an army builder) I find it hard to believe we will get many more sets with them. Who knows though, they might make a big Bo5A set and then an army builder add on and include all 5 factions and creatures.
Mahtion Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) We have certain possibilities to consider. If Smaug is not an exclusive set for Wave 2 then he will have to take up a slot for Wave 3. Also most likey the White Council rescuing Gandalf will occur in TABA so that could be another potential slot for Wave 3. I hope that we get an Erebor exterior set because the dark green malachite color is unique in Lego and we could use more dwarven architecture. The remaining sets will probably be dedicated to the main event: BoFA. I expect maybe 2 or 3 slots used for heroic set pieces between the factions. If we are lucky we will get a small army builder set with one of each: Dale soldier, Mirkwood Infantry, Iron Hill Dwarf warrior and an armored Orc. It not it could be the factions will be peppered across the BoFA sets. Here are some ideas/possibilities: Smaug vs Bard w/ Laketown building White Council Rescue Galadriel, Armored Elrond w/ Horse, Gandalf wounded print, 2 orcs Erebor set of entrance w dwarf company? Dain on boar vs Bolg and 1 armored orc Beorn in bear form, Azog, armored Thorin, Fili, Kili The Arkenstone Bilbo new print, armored Thranduil, 2 Mirkwood infantry, small tent with Arkenstone The Five Armies Iron Hill Dwarf, Dale soldier, Mirkwood Infantry, armored orc on warg, eagle I like your thinking zylek! Erebor is chiefly important and deserving of at least one set that captures its unique architecture and colors. Edited October 22, 2013 by Mahtion
Mutant Orc Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 (edited) I'd love Smaug to come with a new Bilbo, a Thror and possibly another figure with a small corner wall (where Bilbo hides in trailer to no avail) and some gold rather than in another Lake Town setting. I like all the other set ideas but Azog is a bit stuffed with three powerful opponents!! Maybe an Orc or Bolg could help him out..? Edited October 22, 2013 by Mutant Orc
Mahtion Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Thanks! Yeah maybe Azog should have 1 armored Orc and one regular to help balance the battle. I am just trying to capture the major events of BoFA. I do not aside from the war tent of Thranduil and Bilbo's giving the Arkenstone what else he does. I believe that Dain fights Bolg so that was the rationale behind that set. Also good place for some Iron Hill dwarves. Azog fights Beorn in bear form maybe (?) and we know that Thorin should be there along with his two important nephews. This set could come with some Erebor attachment. I'm not sure which set could have some Dale ruins included. I placed Smaug with Bard because Bard should be in a Wave 3 set and if he takes down Smaug in TABA he deserves a great action piece set which Lego would find hard to resist. I love the idea of Bilbo in the treasure room with Smaug and it could work with some hidden play features. I just think keeping Bilbo with Thranduil keeps the characters together and allows for the importance of the Arkenstone. Who knows maybe Bard will come to the ruins of Dale to fight Smaug and the set can have Dale buildings so we don't need more Laketown pieces.
Mutant Orc Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 That would be brilliant as Lake Town is a nice set but could be MOCed easily after buying the original set. Dale would be a dream come true.
zylek Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 A possible Erebor set could also come with the "secret" entrance as a play feature. I think that they had planned an Erebor set as the "big set" for this year since it was originally supposed to be the second of two movies. The big Dol Guldur set from this year was likely created as filler when the series was split into 3 sets. My hope is that since BOFA is screaming for army builder sets that they seize the opportunity and give the fans what they want. Hopefully that'll explain the lack of armored Elves from this year's waves.
Deathleech Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 If Lego does decide to do an army builder for the BoFA (which they would be silly not to do), I wonder what it will include? There are several factions they need to cover and I can't see them doing more than a single $30 army builder in a wave. They could probably do 1 elf in armor, 1 Iron Hill dwarf, 1 Laketown soldier, 2 orcs, and maybe an eagle (A Warg would be silly considering we already have 2 sets with them and ones in the upcoming army builder)? That would still leave room for one named character in the set which Lego seems to make mandatory.
Mutant Orc Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 We've already got a few orcs of the new variety in this new wave- 2 more would be too much maybe. Were they not Goblins in the book anyway??? One Orc and one armoured Goblin in the set you proposed Deathleech would be nice, I like variance, although the chances for new orcs/goblins for the Hobbit are slim. New orcs for LOTR though... ...
Darth Caedus Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 Well, let's look at this pragmatically. I'll estimate 5 sets, since this is the big final wave, so it can be a bit bigger than TDOS's small wave. We'll get a giant - perhaps the biggest of the wave - for Smaug. Smaug vs Bard plus the thrush and whoever else is involved. It's a no-brainer. Some kind of big White Council set is in order, I think - a reuse of Saruman's mold, as well as possibly Galadriel. Hopefully. Though I'm not sure how that would play out, since I doubt we'd get a second large DG set. Who knows. I'm betting on a set involving the armored Dwarves. No way we get all 13 again (I give that a 5% chance of happening), but Thorin, Fili, and Kili are likely a lock due to their importance in the BO5A. Maybe we'll get an armored Bilbo, or a blue-outfit Bilbo, who knows. What I'm hoping for is at least 1, if not 2, sets that can function as armybuilders. This film is about the BO5A, and it'll probably be bigger than Pelennor (or close to it, regardless of the textual size). So we need armies. I'd guess we'll get more Gundabad Orcs, given how much Lego loves to reuse Orcs. That's fine, they're a decent enough design, though I'd love the greenish armored Orcs from the trailer for TDOS. Lego would be fools to not reuse the Laketown guard printing and helmet (why print a new helm and use it once in one set and not make armored Elves with helms), so I'd bet we'll get a couple of those in some set at least. And Iron Hills Dwarves, including Dain, are crucial to the battle, so I can't see them being skipped (Lego also seems to like making short characters because it's a smaller, simpler part that full legs - see the overflow of Frodos, Bilbos, Gimlis, etc.). If we speculate...a great potential set 29.99: ruins or rock formation/encampment/whatever, maybe some Dale ruins or outer Erebor stonework with 2x Armored Elves, 2x Laketown Men, 2x Iron Hills Dwarves and 2x Greenish Orc Warriors from the TDOS trailer. Maybe swap out an Orc or a Laketown man with a horse or warg, or unique character - another Bard, or maybe Dain instead of 1 of the Dwarves. My ideal set? 12.99 - small Orcish War Engine, 1x Greenish Armored Orc, 1x Armored Mirkwood Elf, 1x Laketown Soldier, 1x Iron Hills Dwarf. Expand it to 14.99 to throw in a Warg (light brown this time please), or 19.99 to add another Armored Mirkwood Elf.
Deathleech Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 We've already got a few orcs of the new variety in this new wave- 2 more would be too much maybe.Were they not Goblins in the book anyway??? One Orc and one armoured Goblin in the set you proposed Deathleech would be nice, I like variance, although the chances for new orcs/goblins for the Hobbit are slim. New orcs for LOTR though... ... Not really considering in the book there are about 1,000 elves, 500 Iron Hill Dwarves, and 200-300 Laketown Men. There are over 6,000 goblins.. over triple the amount of elves, dwarves, and humans COMBINED! We already are getting 3 Mirkwood Elves in the MEA set so I think a Bo5A builder should definitely have at least 2 orcs, if not 3. Ideally it could have 1 armored elf, 1 Iron Hills Dwarf, 1 man of Laketown, 2 Orcs, and Dain who could look generic enough to serve as a second Iron Hill grunt. As for if they were actually orcs or goblins, I don't recall. I know at that point Tolkien often inerchanged the two words so they could all be orcs or goblins or a mix. It just depends what PJ ends up doing. I did forget about the bats though, an army builder should have some bats in it if it's based on the Bo5A.
Mr Breden Posted October 22, 2013 Posted October 22, 2013 My hopes\expectations for the third Hobbit wave: Mirkwood Elf Attack 20$ 2x Elven Warrior (Armor) [New Mould], Orc, Goblin, Warg, Eagle The secret entrance to Erebor Dwarven Army 30$ 3x Dwarven Soldier [New Mould], Laketown Soldier, 2x Orc, 2x Warg Erebor outpost Smaug Showdown 50$ Bard, Laketown Guard, Bilbo (Blue Jacket), Smaug [New Moulds] 2-3 burning Lake Town buildings The Battle of Five Armies 80$ Thorin (Armor), Beorn (Bear Shape), 2x Elven Warrior (Armor), Bolg [New Mould], 2x Goblin, 1x Orc, Warg, Eagle 3-4 Tents, 2 huge dwarven statues [Can be combined with Erebor Erebor 140$ Fili (Armor), Kili (Armor), Bilbo (Armor), Dain [New Mould], Thranduil (Armor), Bard (Armor), 2x Orc Similar to Silver Mine Shootout but bigger, I decided to put the big statues seen outside ,in the Battle of Five Armies set so this set could focus more on the mountain itself, and because I couldn’t come up with any other structure to put in that set, Maybe I went a little bit over board with the Minifigures and Wargs
Mahtion Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 It sounds like we are all in agreement on what we would like to see and what will likely happen in Wave 3. After seeing DoS we will have a better idea of what to expect. Does anyone know the likelihood of getting any polybags this year or the next? When should we expect some information and is it possible?
Fives Posted October 23, 2013 Posted October 23, 2013 If I'm not mistaken, we didn't get any LOTR polybags this year. I doubt we'll see anything for The Hobbit either. They likely weren't as popular as LEGO had hoped (especially when half of them included named characters from a cheap set).
Blakstone Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I still want polybags for the Hobbit. The Mirkwood Elf Guard sold briskly in my area. However only a Laketown Guardis needed. We got an elf last time and there are both elves and orcs in the army builder.
Mahtion Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 So normally if one related Wave doesn't have polybags then the next Waves wont either? Is it normal to get polybags in a second wave? At this point it seems like it is unlikely we will get anymore polybags in the Hobbit. I was just hoping that Lego suspended the LOTR polybags due to it not having a current movie. Also what's the possibility of seeing an exclusive at this point for Wave 2?
Deathleech Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 If I'm not mistaken, we didn't get any LOTR polybags this year. I doubt we'll see anything for The Hobbit either. They likely weren't as popular as LEGO had hoped (especially when half of them included named characters from a cheap set). Most of the polybags were exclusives and/or had limited availability in certain areas. For instance the Uruk-hai polybag was widely available in the U.K. through the Sun newspaper promotion but here in the U.S. it's release was spotty at best. Originally it was only sold at Lego Discovery Centers and then several months later it was at 5 Below stores. Likewise the Mirkwood elf polybag was first available in extremely limited quantities at TRU here in the U.S. (each store seemed to have less than 20 total), then it was available only with $20 or $25+ Lego Hobbit purchase (forget the exact number). It was never available in many other countries though. I don't think Lego offered the polybags to be big sellers and make them lots of money, I think they were more or less just incentives to buy more regular sets. I also doubt we will get any for the Hobbit this year seeing as we didn't for the LotR wave.
Mutant Orc Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 I think we had the same problem in the UK with the Mirkwood guard polybag and dol guldur Gandalf (but who needs another Gandalf anyways..?). I can't remember if they were even available- it was not obvious if they were.
SMC Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 Gandalf came in the mail but you could not get the elf one in the UK.
Mutant Orc Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 It was a terrible shame that- I'd have loved to get some. Oh well, we've got an elf battle pack (type of thing) now.
Deathleech Posted October 24, 2013 Posted October 24, 2013 It was a terrible shame that- I'd have loved to get some. Oh well, we've got an elf battle pack (type of thing) now. Count yourself lucky. I am regretting buying the Mirkwood elf polybag now. The new Mirkwood Elf Army set has way better prints on the bodies and the greens on the hood and torso actually match.
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