skriblez Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Might be a TRU thing? One of the TRU's close to me seems to get a smaller and smaller Technic area. Now all the Technic is stuck between SW and other strange things :P They do have all the new sets but their shelf space is smaller and smaller while the other Lego's have increased in size and there is even a "special" section with some other non normal sets. Quote
legolijntje Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Well, here in the Netherlands Technic is doing and in most toy stores, it has a normal shelf space and is not tucked away in a corner. I can imagine how annoying it is when you (in the USA) can't buy the sets you want to buy, while they are available in the rest of the world Quote
Saberwing40k Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 What I don't understand is why lego does not release them to the shop at home site, and then roll them out in stores later. If we don't get the 2014 sets at all, I'm going to be pissed. Quote
davidmull Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Seems only the USA have the issue. Lego technic is more popular in Europe it's just the way it is. Quote
syy89 Posted May 21, 2014 Posted May 21, 2014 Seems only the USA have the issue. Lego technic is more popular in Europe it's just the way it is. Canada doesn't have any of the 2014 sets yet either, so I think it's all of North America, not just the US. Quote
legolijntje Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 And, I think the most annoying thing is that Lego doesn't say anything about it. Not why, not when and not if they will ever be available in North America. Lego has quite a good customer service and relationship with lugs and communities, but this time they keep their mouth shut like nothing is happening. That's not what I would have expected from Lego... Quote
aol000xw Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 So If the non disclosure agreement lifts in June is there a release date already? (even if that date can't be published until June) Quote
Hrafn Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 What I don't understand is why lego does not release them to the shop at home site, and then roll them out in stores later. If we don't get the 2014 sets at all, I'm going to be pissed. It's possible that part of Lego's deal with TRU and Walmart is that S@H won't offer sets that aren't being made available to the brick-and-mortar stores. Maybe the 2013 sets were designed by GM and they're fixing some bugs... Quote
davidmull Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 This thread is really going off topic! There not available in the us move on. Quote
Jim Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 This thread is really going off topic! There not available in the us move on. Please don't mini mod this thread. I will take care of it when things get out of hand. Quote
NevynPA Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 A portion of them are available in the US, if you buy from TRU instead of S@H. The Technic website says that they're coming in 8/2014. So they have released SOME information... :) Quote
JGW3000 Posted May 22, 2014 Posted May 22, 2014 Even the official LEGO stores near me have the four smaller sets, although not listed on the S@H website. I talked to a LEGO customer service person, and he said they are not told anything, so he didn't have any further information. At this point, nothing left to do but sit tight and wait (and go to TRU every other day hoping a 42025 will magically appear) Quote
Maaboo the Witch Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 What I've always wanted is a largescale road grader, possibly RC but at least with included PF items. That is one thing Lego hasn't made. I see that 42024's 'b' model is a grader, but too many colors, looks odd. Would be ok if it just had one color, and most road graders, at least here in the US are yellow. That'd be good. There's been no grader "A" model before, so it'd be something kind of, er, new. Quote
valenciaeric Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 42030 is apparently going to be closet to 250 € than 200€ so I think I will pass on it for now. The pick up is on my radar for the useful suspension parts and red panels. If anyone is desperate for a 42025, they can contact me by PM as I may have a solution. Quote
Anio Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 MSRP of 42030 will be close to 240€ in most countries. Quote
Kumbbl Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 MSRP of 42030 will be close to 240€ in most countries. For this set this is quite a rip off... Another reason to pass... Quote
Rishab N Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 240 Euros! I suppose the license and motors don't help with the cost Quote
Kumbbl Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Well, probably... But to be honest: i give a sh** to a license... For me it doesn't matter If a model like a loader looks like a real brand because this adds nothing to building fun, beautyness and playability - the excavator 8043 is the best example for my opinion: it has no license but it is simply agreat lego model and became already an icon... I highly doubt that 42030 will ever become an icon...but future will show... Well, maybe a license for a real world icon like a unimog makes sense, and maybe also for some car brands like ferrari or others which are known and recognized by most of the people and children... But who cares if a loader is a Volvo or something else?! A front loader - regardless of volvo, liebherr, catapillar or something else - is for sure no real world icon and only a minority of the target group would recognice and care if a loader is a special brand... So such a license add nothing to such a model apart from costs.. Just my 2ct Edited May 25, 2014 by Kumbbl Quote
syy89 Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 MSRP of 42030 will be close to 240€ in most countries. Ugh! Wasn't high on this set to start with and this will only further deter me from buying it. 42025 will definitely be my only Technic purchase for this year. Quote
syy89 Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Looks like 42020, 42021, 42026, and 42027 have been added to S@H in NA. Quote
Anio Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 For this set this is quite a rip off Actually, think it through, and you will see it's not a rip off. 9398, MSRP 200€ : 1400 parts, 1 servo, 2L, 1 battery box, 1 IR, 1 remote 42030, MSRP 240€ : 1650 parts, 1 servo, 1 XL, 1 L, 1M, 1 battery box, 2 IR, 2 remotes. This comparison can also be done with 8043 (200€) : 1100 parts, 4M, 1 battery box, 2 IR, 2 remotes. 240€ is expensive, and it is a new step in the Lego Technic line. However, regarding the components in the box, the price increase appears to be pretty logical. And I think that the license has nothing to do with that. More generally, I think that licenses are almost free for the Technic line. Lego can offer a frontloader without license and it will sell as well as if there is the license. So, I think the policy of TLG with partners for the Technic line is more an exchange between TLG and the licensed brand rather than a true commercial operation. who cares if a loader is a Volvo or something else ?! True. People at Lego are not stupid. They know people do not care much about this kind of license. And this is precisely the reason why I am sure TLG demands the license to be almost free on that kind of product. Quote
Kumbbl Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) hmm, i have to admit, you are right... i have calculated the avarage prize of a part with 0,07€ (based on some recent sets without PF and without pneumatic)... with this avarage prize of a part the prize of the 42030 matches quite well the prizes of 9398 and 8043 (BTW: the retail prize of 9398 was not 200 but 170 - 200 would be way to expensive for the parts and PF-components) so i would unsay the "rip off"... More generally, I think that licenses are almost free for the Technic line. Lego can offer a frontloader without license and it will sell as well as if there is the license. So, I think the policy of TLG with partners for the Technic line is more an exchange between TLG and the licensed brand rather than a true commercial operation. True. People at Lego are not stupid. They know people do not care much about this kind of license. And this is precisely the reason why I am sure TLG demands the license to be almost free on that kind of product. yes, probably you are right here too... Overall: seems that i was completely wrong... but that's ok for me - thank you for you good and helpful answer! BTW: nevertheless the 42030 is a boring model i will pass - and probably my "rip off" remark was slightly biased by this opinion ..... Edited May 25, 2014 by Kumbbl Quote
Saberwing40k Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Looks like 42020, 42021, 42026, and 42027 have been added to S@H in NA. Confirmed, they are also instock at the Lego store here. Quote
Anio Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 thank you for you good and helpful answer! You are welcome. :) BTW: nevertheless the 42030 is a boring model i will pass - and probably my "rip off" remark was slightly biased by this opinion ..... Technically speaking, I think 42030 is more interesting that some older flagships : 8275, 9398. And in France, I confirm that the MSRP of the 9398 has always been 195-200€. Maybe it is lower in some other countries. :) Quote
Kumbbl Posted May 25, 2014 Posted May 25, 2014 Technically speaking, I think 42030 is more interesting that some older flagships : 8275, 9398. from an absolute functionality viewpoint maybe but only maybe: 8275: has more or less the same functions: drive and steer and two additional functions - and yes, i agree, the 8275 is boring too - BUT: at its time the 8275 was very innovative because it was the first IR remote controlled model with the new PF components... therefore the 8275 was way more interesting than the 42030 9398: concerning functionality it is boring, of course - BUT: it is the first RC crawler and therefore it is somehow innovative The 42030 is just another loader...well it is RC but what else? the 8265 is even more beauty (at least IMHO) and can be perfectly "electrified"... and: no other function than loading (8069, 8265, 8862, 8455...) has be done more often by TLG - and now again the 42030... cawlers and dozers are way more seldom... But of course: people at TLG are not stupid and therefore i'm sure they give the mass what the mass want to get - and probably the mass want to get the next loader incarnation... and i'm sure the model will sell well... but not everyone has to be part of the mass anyway: there is no need for an agreement concerning this topic - i wish all new owners of the 42030 much fun with this model! Quote
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