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I don't get it. :/

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I'm inclined to think that the foremost use the Mitgardians (and everyone else) should have for our oil is for lighting? Low grade fuel like fire wood is maybe good enough for heating but it's not easy to read with only the dim light from the embers of a cook-fire.

After all, being able to read for many hours after dark in good oil lamp light (or the even better the bright light from lamps using distilled naphtha, a practice reported to be growing more and more common these days) helps the Kaliphlin scholars to be unrivaled in Historica. So if the Mitgardians were to get more of our oil, maybe in the future some ignorant misunderstandings about other guilds might be avoided? :wink:

Btw, finally going to be back at my bricks tomorrow :classic: We will have the little girl's grandmother visiting (and hopefully helping a lot with taking care of the baby) for soon. Maybe I'll finally be able to get some progress on the three WIPs in various states sitting on my desk :wink:

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I'm inclined to think that the foremost use the Mitgardians (and everyone else) should have for our oil is for lighting? Low grade fuel like fire wood is maybe good enough for heating but it's not easy to read with only the dim light from the embers of a cook-fire.

After all, being able to read for many hours after dark in good oil lamp light (or the even better the bright light from lamps using distilled naphtha, a practice reported to be growing more and more common these days) helps the Kaliphlin scholars to be unrivaled in Historica. So if the Mitgardians were to get more of our oil, maybe in the future some ignorant misunderstandings about other guilds might be avoided? :wink:

We use whale oil, which is just as good for light :wink:

As far as reading goes, I don't see that Kaliphlinians necessarily read more just because they have the UoP down there :look:

...I should build a Mitgardian library some time :laugh:

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As far as reading goes, I don't see that Kaliphlinians necessarily read more just because they have the UoP down there

...I should build a Mitgardian library some time :laugh:

We already have a vast picture book section in the Great Library of Barqa, maybe we can have some scribes make up some copies for your fledgling library? I mean, it will take Milena for enough good Mitgardian writers to come about, that is if you start the learning to read process soon. Actually, we will just send teachers to participate in your rudimentary education system... I can see it now Dereek Zoolandson's Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too.

Also, we have more colleges than just the UoP, that is just the flagship university.

Finally, I see the point about oil for reading rather than heating, but for areas that do not have wood (and there are lots of them in Mitgardia) the oil is essential. It is of higher quality than whale blubber oil, and burns brighter and longer because of the refinement. Besides, rumor has it that it has been too cold in Mitgardia this winter to swing an axe, the ruthless forests have claimed many a shattered axe in this season.

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Besides, rumor has it that it has been too cold in Mitgardia this wenter to swing an axe, the ruthless forests have claimed many a shatter axe in this season.

Well, that one only goes for the North American Mitgardians, for the central European ones there actually wasn't any winter at all. So plenty of time to harvest timber!

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I am 85% done on a ship carrying relief supplies to our Northern friends but I am traveling next week so I won't make the O2M deadline. Free build coming....

:classic:

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...I can see it now Dereek Zoolandson's Center For Kids Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too.

Love the reference!

Well, that one only goes for the North American Mitgardians, for the central European ones there actually wasn't any winter at all. So plenty of time to harvest timber!

True that! I'm in Chicago and it's been super bitter this winter.

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...rumor has it that it has been too cold in Mitgardia this wenter to swing an axe, the ruthless forests have claimed many a shatter axe in this season.

If you can't swing an ax how can you shatter it :look:

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If you can't swing an ax how can you shatter it :look:

Sorry about my late night spelling, but it is semantics. One would not want to shatter their axe because the trees are frozen, so they are not willing to swing the axe, therefore it is too cold to swing an axe.

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Which leads us back to the problem of seasons in Historica ... who determines them and who says it's the freezing American and not the non existant German/Dutch/Belgian winter?

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Which leads us back to the problem of seasons in Historica ... who determines them and who says it's the freezing American and not the non existant German/Dutch/Belgian winter?

Wait... are you trying to say that you Mitgardians don't get hardly any snow? I thought that was your boast! And if you get snow, shouldn't you get freezing weather too? - at least if the snow hangs around for any length of time. I suppose you don't really need -15 degree (Celsius) weather - much less -15 Fahrenheit, but even just freezing (0/32) is way too cold for hanging around without heating. In fact, even just 50 Fahrenheit (or ~12 C), is way too cold for comfort... yeah it's fine when your just out in it a half hour or so, but living with everything - inside, outside - that way is a completely different matter. Try writing, typing, playing an instrument (any activity that requires quick finger movements) after being in a 12 C environment for a couple hours... it really is hard to move your fingers with any speed!

Technically I guess the seasons depend a lot on the size of Historica. NM once said it was about the size of Texas, I think... which means that the climates as generally understood (snow in Mitgardia, desert in Kali, swamps in Nocty, and lush forests in Avalonia) are remarkably varied for such a small space. As a matter of fact I don't think seasons have ever really been given a prominent place. Mitgardia is assumed to be always cold (a sort of perpetual winter), Kaliphlin always nice and warm (some might say hot), etc... more like the four different guilds correspond to the seasons!

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I have always thought of the different guilds as having rather consistent climates - Mitgardia is always in deep winter, Kaliphlin is always hot, Nocturnus and Avalonia climate varies depending on where you are, but mostly being temperate.

I think of Historica being much bigger than Texas, maybe closer to about the size of Europe without the former USSR, or about half the size of the US. Also, if the world that Historica is on is significantly smaller than the earth, you would see greater variation over smaller distances.

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Technically I guess the seasons depend a lot on the size of Historica. NM once said it was about the size of Texas, I think... which means that the climates as generally understood (snow in Mitgardia, desert in Kali, swamps in Nocty, and lush forests in Avalonia) are remarkably varied for such a small space.

That is about equivalent with actual Texas climate. Although there is no arctic, the other three environments exist. With a fourth environment being the mountains. I didn't grow up here, but I have been told there are geography classes on just Texas taught. It is a big place.

I can't remember where NM's original numbers came from, but he derived them from a canon storyline I believe. Like, Rogueang, I think Historica would be quite bigger, but NM numbers were really good IIRC.

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...Technically I guess the seasons depend a lot on the size of Historica. NM once said it was about the size of Texas, I think... which means that the climates as generally understood (snow in Mitgardia, desert in Kali, swamps in Nocty, and lush forests in Avalonia) are remarkably varied for such a small space...

Kinda like France.

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Sorry about my late night spelling, but it is semantics. One would not want to shatter their axe because the trees are frozen, so they are not willing to swing the axe, therefore it is too cold to swing an axe.

So what you meant was that it is too cold to chop down trees...

Anyways, it sounds like Historica is about the size of Alaska, about 570,000 square miles (Texas is only 262,000), in which case it could have a cold and long winter in the north pretty easily.

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NM's numbers were I thought based on his map?... which seems to be at a good scale IMO - there certainly is plenty of space for MOCing purposes!

I have always thought of the different guilds as having rather consistent climates - Mitgardia is always in deep winter, Kaliphlin is always hot, Nocturnus and Avalonia climate varies depending on where you are, but mostly being temperate...

Same here. Seasons don't seem really relevant as there isn't really a fixed time schedule either (what constitutes a day? a year?).

...I think of Historica being much bigger than Texas, maybe closer to about the size of Europe without the former USSR, or about half the size of the US. Also, if the world that Historica is on is significantly smaller than the earth, you would see greater variation over smaller distances.

Actually it would be impossible for a smaller planet to sustain Historica type life... partly because the extremes would be too great. That aside, given your distance calculations, half the US seems quite a feasible size.

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So what you meant was that it is too cold to chop down trees...

To attempt to chop down trees, therefore to cold to bother to swing an axe...

NM's numbers were I thought based on his map?... which seems to be at a good scale IMO - there certainly is plenty of space for MOCing purposes!

I thought he based his scale off something else, and I thought it was a story about how long it took the king or a diplomat or someone to get between to official locations (Cedrica and Albion, maybe?)

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Actually it would be impossible for a smaller planet to sustain Historica type life... partly because the extremes would be too great. That aside, given your distance calculations, half the US seems quite a feasible size.

That's only if we compare Historica to Earth, but in a fantasy setting we can always make up planets. A possible "natural" explanation could be a planet that never rotates and the light from sun or suns falls more directly in the South, and more inclined in the north, leading to the different climates. Or, you know, "it was a wizard" :p

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If the planet never rotates, you don't get day/night.

I rather think the axis is tilted farther. The northern hemisphere would be colder, the equator would be temperate, and the southern hemisphere would be warmer. Avalonia and Nocturnus would lie on the equator.

I also think of Historica as slightly larger than Australia, and Varlyrio is about a the size of Greenland.

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a more titled axis would make the far south pretty cool too! So why don't we just say that Historica is one! continent on a planet with more than one continent.

As for Mitgardia, I've always considered it to resemble Scandinavia, so basicly we do have a summer, even if it's a shorter one than in Avalonia and I always considered Mitgardia's West coast under the influence of a warm ocean current, so basicly think Norway

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