Emjajoas Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "Does that not mean we should be rid of the fool? If he is a distraction, then he ought to be dealt with."
Duvors Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "Make Phoenix Essences that bring back th' dead, I can, throw tha' away, would you?"
Zepher Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "Is it right to kill a lame animal? Even the stupidest of animals - fish, insects - can be bent to the will of humans. We are ridding ourselves of malicious animals, not those that are of lower intelligence. I wish to watch and observe. Acting too rashly could hurt us badly. An alchemist could do much and more for us, given he is on our side. It would not be like killing a bug, but rather like killing a mule who was carrying our cart. I simply say we condition the mule - we do not respond to it until it gives us something worth responding to. It should learn, as all animals can."
The Legonater Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Hold on, what? You can make Phoenix Essences? Why didn't you say that in the first place? That completely changes the scope of this investigation!
Emjajoas Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "Does the ability to create Phoenix Essences not also make him a dangerous foe, should he be scum? Can we risk him bringing Nephilim back to life?"
Duvors Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Hold on, what? You can make Phoenix Essences? Why didn't you say that in the first place? That completely changes the scope of this investigation! "Personaly, believed you would kill me anyway, I did." "Is it right to kill a lame animal? Even the stupidest of animals - fish, insects - can be bent to the will of humans. We are ridding ourselves of malicious animals, not those that are of lower intelligence. I wish to watch and observe. Acting too rashly could hurt us badly. An alchemist could do much and more for us, given he is on our side. It would not be like killing a bug, but rather like killing a mule who was carrying our cart. I simply say we condition the mule - we do not respond to it until it gives us something worth responding to. It should learn, as all animals can." "Such a nice person, you are." "Does the ability to create Phoenix Essences not also make him a dangerous foe, should he be scum? Can we risk him bringing Nephilim back to life?" "If scum I was, tell you this, would I?"
Waterbrick Down Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 {I find it interesting that the Gremlin brought up his ability to create potions and venoms earlier, but now that heat is being applied he can also make Phoenix Essences.}
Zepher Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "I am not calling for your blood, exquisite Voros. That makes me a better friend to you then most." A slight smile remains on Zelphie's lips, but she does not look down to make eye contact with the little creature. It is hard to say if she makes eye contact with anyone, behind her strangely colored goggles.
Emjajoas Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "I tend to agree. It makes it seem like he has been keeping secrets, and unfortunately for him, secrets are deadly indeed."
Kintobor Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Indeed. If Voros not dead by tomorrow morning, Voros must be scum. Nephilim know this as well. Why kill one of Nephilim's own, especially one who brings Nephilim back from dead?
Brickdoctor Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "If scum I was, tell you this, would I?" Absolutely, of course you would. You would be trying to show that there's a good reason not to kill you that isn't connected to your behavior. I've often been in situations like this where someone about to be lynched would claim a role with power — Cop Town Watch, Doctor healer, Vig trained warrior, etc. — what you're doing isn't unusual for both scum and Hall-ies.
The Legonater Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 {I find it interesting that the Gremlin brought up his ability to create potions and venoms earlier, but now that heat is being applied he can also make Phoenix Essences.} I was thinking the same thing. Given his job class, I'm not totally surprised, but I find it unnerving all the same. "Personaly, believed you would kill me anyway, I did." "If scum I was, tell you this, would I?" If you believed it would keep you alive, you might tell us - and I'm wondering if that's the case right now. In fact, I'm almost wondering if this gives us a greater reason to kill you - if you do have this ability, it could be either a blessing or a deadly curse. Again, this ability unnerves me to a great extent.
Emjajoas Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "Precisely," Emmanuelle says, nodding. "He has said much to try to save his own life, though it sounds like it shall end up costing him his life instead. Poor sod."
Pyrovisionary Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "I've been quiet until now because I have had nothing to contribute. But what I say is that he uses he day ability to create an essence, then gives it to one of us at night. That way, we reap a reward even if he's dead by morning"
Kintobor Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Kob disagrees with the Visionary. Who's to say gremlin won't pass item off to scum? Kob does not want to see Nephilim rise again.
Duvors Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) "I've been quiet until now because I have had nothing to contribute. But what I say is that he uses he day ability to create an essence, then gives it to one of us at night. That way, we reap a reward even if he's dead by morning" "Know what I make each day, I do nae, Mixing a bomb, right now I may be, listen, buy magnifying glass, today ye could, use on me, ye could, know fer certainty, ye could." Edited August 28, 2013 by Lord Duvors
Emjajoas Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "Should he be dead by morning, that means he is clean; Should he give the essence to scum, then we can assume that when scum is killed, they will be revived. If he passes it off to someone who is not scum, then they can revive him and we can receive more essences, letting the process continue."
Duvors Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) "Should he be dead by morning, that means he is clean; Should he give the essence to scum, then we can assume that when scum is killed, they will be revived. If he passes it off to someone who is not scum, then they can revive him and we can receive more essences, letting the process continue." "Just said, I did, random, what I make tis, no way of knowing what I will make, there tis(unless you bribe Sandy)." Edited August 28, 2013 by Lord Duvors
Pyrovisionary Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) Kob disagrees with the Visionary. Who's to say gremlin won't pass item off to scum? Kob does not want to see Nephilim rise again. Well there's always that risk. We make him give it to someone already established as non scum, by the magnifying glass If Ysp ever buys it.Then, if on his death he is revealed as town, we resurrect him and get more essences. Of course the Scum could be clever here and not kill him, forcing us to do it on Day 2 and then he may be revealed as town. But I doubt that will happen if we have a magnifying glass. Edit: "Just said, I did, random, what I make is, no way of knowing what I will make, there is(unless you bribe Sandy)." Oh... Edited August 28, 2013 by Pyrovisionary
Duvors Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 (edited) "If Ysp, th' magnifying glass buys, use it on me, he could, know for certainty, ye could." Edited August 28, 2013 by Lord Duvors
Kintobor Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 If we resurrect him once, whose to say scum won't kill gremlin again? Kob thinks ideas just bad news for heroes. Heroes hastily rushed to give Ysp money, and now Ysp's loyalty is being brought into question. Kob is against keeping gremlin alive, no matter what.
Brickdoctor Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "Should he be dead by morning, that means he is clean; Not necessarily. Protecting might be possible, and successfully doing nothing is a whole lot easier than successfully killing someone. I don't like trying to predict what the scum will do and making a decision based on whether or not he's alive Tomorrow. It just leads to a big mess of WIFOM.
Wedge09 Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 Well there's always that risk. We make him give it to someone already established as non scum, by the magnifying glass If Ysp ever buys it. "Small point to break your plan: then this hero established as non Nephilim will became a target of them because they are sure he is aligned with Heroica."
Duvors Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 If we resurrect him once, whose to say scum won't kill gremlin again? Kob thinks ideas just bad news for heroes. Heroes hastily rushed to give Ysp money, and now Ysp's loyalty is being brought into question. Kob is against keeping gremlin alive, no matter what. "Now hald yer wisit, laddie! I'm nae gang tae... "
The Legonater Posted August 28, 2013 Posted August 28, 2013 "Small point to break your plan: then this hero established as non Nephilim will became a target of them because they are sure he is aligned with Heroica." I'm not sure I follow your logic, kid. The Nephilim know who they are. They already know who all is allied with Heroica.
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