Mafia After Dark - Night 2: Mean Streets

[Palathadric]

You're right, I didn't post during the day. Given the big night we'd just had, Tam suggested to me that I should sleep all day. I assume this means someone blocked me. Before you all start wildly speculating about there only being one kill during the day and me being blocked, the only effect of the block was to stop me from talking. So, no posts during the day. The others that didn't say anything during the day were Doğukan, Priscilla and Donny. Presumably they weren't all blocked, but chances are one of them was.

Interesting. If it really is a block, then I wonder if anyone who gets blocked would be prevented from talking. You say Dogukan was on that list. Well that makes me look oddly at this quote from him:

I temd to agree with that sentiment. Personally I'd currently go on the side of what seems most likely, which is that the billboard kill was a Ferrari kill. We have no idea how they're going to try and kill us after all, so there is not really any way to rule that out yet as "not the way the scum are meant to kill". If it were an SK or vig kill, then what happened to the scum kill? Lucky first night block?

Well, perhaps the theory of speculating about the day threads will do us some good...I don't know. But considering that there is a possibility that he was blocked, it's interesting how he quickly brushes off the idea that our blocker (assuming we have one) got lucky. Still, I don't know if this is enough to place a vote for him as it is just wild speculation. Perhaps, Dogukan himself would like to fill us in on why he was silent during the day.

Anyway, to get onto the matter at hand, I think I placed my suspicions on our captain well enough yesterday. He backed away in his confrontation with Shane early on for no real reason whatsoever somehow deciding that discussing whether to policy lynch or not was a better method of finding scum than pressing for something more serious from Shane. His vote against Jamie was so weak and yet clearly not just a poke or something random like that. I think I feel more comfortable voting for him than anyone else, but since we still have 24 hours in the day, I'd be willing change my vote if it is required. There are still 24 hours remaining, right?

Byron seems to be the man getting the votes for now. Personally, I don't find a lot suspicious about him. His vote on Day 1 was a bit random, but I suppose hearing his reasoning made it more understandable. Perhaps he thought Dexter would jump on the line and help to form a bandwagon...I don't know. His delay in answering the questions posed may be a bit suspicious but would hardly give me reason to lynch him. The vote against him seems very weak now.

So, all that to say, I'll place my vote.

Vote: Cap'n Rolfe (Capt.Redblade)

Just for the record, I think I see Dogukan as being more suspicious than Byron, I thought he only had one vote against him though.

[def]

You know, Dexter, every candidate (except Byron) had one vote by the time I had voted. I am not trying to avoid a majority lynch by any means; I merely introduced a new suggestion for the lynch. If it's necessary for me to change my vote in order for a majority to go through, I will, but for now I am happy where I am given there is only one clear front-runner.

And lots of people have yet to vote.

No, Byron had two. An hour and a half before you voted. Enough time to consult a scum board and come back.

And add Penelope's to the votes that are going to try to save Byron, it seems. Dog is more suspicious that Byron, and Rolfe gets the vote...

[Capt. Redblade]

I saw this coming from a mile away, and I'm not even a psychic. I'm a magician.

You've had a hard-on for me since this whole affair started. Why? I explained myself to you sufficiently and yet you still refuse to believe my reasoning.

And yet the time it took for you to explain yourself sufficiently was far too long. You were asked at least three times about your vote, and it was only relatively recently that you gave anything approaching a decent answer.

The first time somebody asked you about it, it was Terrence at the end of last night. He thought your non-explanation of your vote was reason enough for him to vote for you. You could have used this opportunity to better explain yourself, but you gave the same non-response you'd already given. Earlier tonight I said I would like to hear more from you, and I mentioned the vote. Again, you could have used this opportunity to properly explain yourself, but you gave the same non-answer again. It was only when I further prodded you after that that you offered up a more concrete response. As I explained when I voted, I didn't like how long it took for you to provide what was ultimately a pretty soft response.

I'm going to go ahead and Vote: Cap'n Rolfe (Capt. Redblade). I was put off by his hyper-aggressiveness last night, and I think his vote was unreasonable.

Really? Because I got no indication of that from you last night or today. In fact, I think this was the only time you directly addressed me last night:

Adam, on 27 August 2013 - 03:16 PM, said:

By the way Cap'n Rolfe (Capt. Redblade), I agree that voting is very important in this particular game... of life because of our inability to talk privately, which seriously inhibits PR's (I wonder if the Ferrari's are also unable to talk to one another? The rules don't really specify that...). That said, policy lynching sucks for the mere reason that it prevents the town from lynching somebody who could legitimately be scum. You've voted for Jamie (jamesn) apparently because you think he's scummy, and you've outlined your reasons why, which is the kind of action that the town should be taking, not policy lynching.

I don't get the sense that you were particularly put off by anything I was doing when you made that post. The only thing you said about my vote was that it was for someone I thought was scummy, and thus the right thing to do. If you at all thought my vote was unreasonable, you sure didn't say it. Why not air your grievances last night when it was a hot topic?

Oh, and one final word before I put the brakes on this train of thought:

Who on earth are you voting for Byron? I am sorry, but this is absurd. You vote for someone that doesn't exist. Explain that.

Sorry, I got Dakugan and Donny confused.

Am I the only one who thinks Bernard needs to start payin' more attention? I get that the guy's old and may be startin' to lose his touch, but this seems like a dumb mistake. He says he got Doğukan and Donny confused, but then why would he say Doğukan didn't exist? Did he mean he wasn't alive anymore? That I could buy. But no, he says he doesn't exist. As in, ain't no such person and never was. What's with dat?

[jimmynick]

No, Byron had two.

That's what I said! When I voted, when Byron had two votes, he was hardly a frontrunner.

I, for one, don't understand the Byron wagon. Yes, he doesn't want to explain things, but he comes from a long line of magicians who hold their cards close to their chests.

[Captain Nemo]

Honestly I'm not too sure of this vote today (Who am I kidding, when am I ever sure). I don't find Bryon too scummy, and he hasn't come off as strange to me, at least not his day one random vote, since it was day one afterall. Cap'n Rolfe on the other hand does come off as stange to me. His vote day one, directed at Jamie, while mostly random like Bryon's one, was based off very little evidence that he tried to expand into something larger than it seemed; putting words where they're not doesn't sit well with me.

Based on that, I'll be placing my vote on:

Vote: Cap'n Rolfe (Capt.Redblade)

I'm suspicious of other people too though. I've been uneasy of Penelope since night one (And from talks there, other people have too)--she just doesn't sit right with me. Neither does Dexter, since he always seems to have an answer for everything--and I don't think anyone can know that much this early. But, right now, it comes down to Captain Rolfe being the most scummy to me right now.

[def]

That's what I said! When I voted, when Byron had two votes, he was hardly a frontrunner.

Sorry, I'd just woke up when I said that, and missed the part in parentheses.

Anyway, I still think it seems awful convenient there is a push for Rolfe all of a sudden. He was nowhere near my radar before.

[Tamamono]

Vote Count

The Great Byron (Bob) - 3 (Capt. Redblade, Trumpetking, def)

Cap'n Rolfe (Capt. Redblade) - 3 (Adam, Palathadric, Captain Nemo)

Doğukan Akbulut (Dragonator) - 2 (Bob, Kristel)

Terrence Knox (Trumpetking) - 1 (jamesn)

18 hours until Dawn.

Edited September 2, 2013 by Tamamono

[Shadows]

We're never going to get a majority this way. I don't feel particularly strong about either of the top votes, but splitting things further isn't going to help. For now, I'm going to support one of the votes that actually has a chance of succeeding, since a failed vote won't tell us anything.

Vote: The Great Byron (Bob)

I decided on Byron because I think that the people who are already voting for him make the most general sense and I agree with Dexter when he mentions the sudden push for Rolfe, almost as if someone supporting Byron is trying to split the vote to save him.

[CorneliusMurdock]

So Colin, are you still suspicious of Shane?

Sorry, I've been really freaked out by that ostrich all day. It keeps staring at me with those eyes... those eyes that look like... Billy's....

Anyway, yes, I'm still suspicious of Shane. I still have nothing to back that up, though. Just a general uneasiness about the way he talks. Everything he says seems to feel rehearsed. Like he's trying act exactly like he would if. He were a townie. If this feeling remains, I may pllace my vote that way later.

I don't really get what the other votes are about right now, either. I know the reasons being given for them but none seem to stand out enough to me right now. Maybe it's just that I can't concentrate with those accusing ostrich eyes staring into my soul, though.

[def]

Only half of us have voted? Many can't be bothered to get involved? The night is about 80% over?

[Cecilie]

You're right, I didn't post during the day. Given the big night we'd just had, Tam suggested to me that I should sleep all day. I assume this means someone blocked me. Before you all start wildly speculating about there only being one kill during the day and me being blocked, the only effect of the block was to stop me from talking. So, no posts during the day.

Hm, that's interesting. I wonder if it's like a normal block that comes with a sideeffect, or more like a curse that effects your abilities during the day phase, in your case talking. But it seems like a strange thing for an action to only limit your ability to talk during the short day phase, so I would think it's most likely a side effect of another action.

As for the voting, I see it's coming down to Byron or Rolfe right now, and we need to get a lynch today even though I feel we're still grasping at straws here. I'm going to review what's been said by and about those two, and come to a decision.

[Palathadric]

You haven't really offered any reasons for voting for Byron, except for the fact that you assume one of the ones on the chopping block earlier must have been scum otherwise the vote would not have divided. I still think the case against Byron is very weak, and I'd much prefer to keep my vote where it is, but I guess we do not have much time left, so I'll

Unvote: Cap'n Rolfe (Capt.Redblade)

Vote: The Great Byron (Bob)

Who knows, we may get lucky and catch a scum...let's hope so.

And I guess it's true that it does seem pretty scummy to try to split the vote further especially when all the cases are far from solid.

[Tamamono]

Vote Count

The Great Byron (Bob) - 5 (Capt. Redblade, Trumpetking, def, Shadows, Palathadric)

Cap'n Rolfe (Capt. Redblade) - 2 (Adam, Captain Nemo)

Doğukan Akbulut (Dragonator) - 2 (Bob, Kristel)

Terrence Knox (Trumpetking) - 1 (jamesn)

13.5 hours until Dawn.

[def]

You haven't really offered any reasons for voting for Byron...

Who is you? I wanted to vote for you. You must mean someone else...

[Shadows]

I still have nothing to back that up, though. Just a general uneasiness about the way he talks. Everything he says seems to feel rehearsed. Like he's trying act exactly like he would if. He were a townie.

I don't really have any way to defend against sounding like a townie because I am one. As for sounding rehearsed, maybe that's because this is the 500th time* I've been in a situation like this and there's nothing new to say.

* 500th time may be a slight exaggeration, but not much.

[Bob]

Well, this is a bit distressing.

I feel that I've presented my case against Doğukan rather well, so I've decided that I'll stay with that vote. What's curious is that he hasn't even come back to defend himself yet. I understand that I'm likely the only vote that has a chance of succeeding, but I still don't understand why. The case against me is weak and some might even say, non-existent, but everyone is jumping on it like a bandwagon because "it's the only one that will succeed."

Why is my vote the only one that will succeed? Maybe if everyone else changes their vote then another one will, but the likelihood of that is slim since half the people present can't be bothered to play the game.

I'm a vanilla townie, so the only way you'll learn something from my death is if you examine the vote patterns. That's if you get a conviction, though. At this rate we could go another night without a conviction. There's 17 of us left (unless I can't count) so we need a majority of 9 votes. I think. I'm a magician, not a mathematician.

By the way, the only reason that Doğukan is bold is because I copied it directly from the front page because I don't want to butcher the name.

I'm a magician, not a butcher.

[jimmynick]

I think this is ridiculous. Byron and dear Rolfie are the lynch candidates and I don't think either is particularly scummy.

But what about Penelope? Let's look at who's suspicious of Penelope.

Dexter said:

I hereby proclaim Penelope as waffly.

Oh, look! There's a reason!

Byron voted for Penelope and said:

She doesn't exactly sit well with me. I'm throwing this out there as a potential person that's a bit off in my opinion. Just some of the things she's said are a bit peculiar.

I actually re-read what Byron said yesterday and he indeed said then that his vote was a poke, which I (and obviously lots of other people) overlooked. We forced him to repeat what he said and gave him lots of flak. Sorry, Byron.

Terrence said:

[O]nly one thing she's said has struck me as odd.

Yesterday, I said some things about Penelope and gave my reasoning.

Tonight, Candy said:

I've been uneasy of Penelope since night one --she just doesn't sit right with me.

We've collectively been all over Byron for not giving reasoning for his suspicion of Penelope, but look! Here are Terrence and Candy piling on with the unsubstantiated suspicions. This was a reason for my vote for Terrence.

There are five of us suspicious of Penelope, and I'd love to hear what reasons Terrence and Candy have for those suspicions. Don't you think it would be really easy for a scum or two to say: "Hey - I think that person is weird" to fit in with the "cool crowd". Let it be known I'm pointing my finger at Terrence and Candy.

That said, I have a feeling that both Byron and dear Rolfie are both town and that the scum are playing us like a honky-tonk piano.

Kristina's and Byron's votes put me on our tailor's trail, so I've reread everything. He is conspicuously inconspicuous, for one. Also, last night he said the following:

Hmm, well this is a bit of a shambolic start. Four votes started, none in the lead, but we're not really going to learn much from nothing. Then again, a shot in the dark doesn't help us much either so... I think I'll go back to smoothing down the feathers of my latest masterpiece.

He complains that more people haven't voted, and then declines to vote himself. Granted, he seemed to think that voting would be a "shot in the dark" but he hasn't pointed at a single suspect thus far in this Ferrari ordeal.

Now, looking at the votes, I can see that Terrence isn't going anywhere and that with a gun to my head I would say Byron and darling Rolfie are town. Also, I feel the tailor is a worthy and overlooked suspect. So here we go:

Unvote: Terrence Knox (TrumpetKing)

Vote: Doğukan Akbulut (Dragonator)

[TheBoyWonder]

Look. I'll explain it. By not existing I meant as in not alive. I had got Donny and Dogukan or however you spell it confused. Therefore I thought that Dogukan was dead. That is why I said it

[Cecilie]

Ok, I've gone through what's been said (which is not really a lot ), and while there might be said that there's something off about all of those with votes against them right now, there's nothing really damning in there. But with the way things are going, and given the little time we have left, I feel it's important that we actually reach a lynch, so that we will at least learn something. Even though Byron might not have any damning evidence against him, likewise, there's absolutely nothing clearing him as town. Furthermore, he claims to be vanilla, so if we're wrong in lynching him, at least we're not losing a PR.

So for now, I will

Vote: The Great Byron (Bob)

[Peanuts]

I really hate to split the votes, but I don't think Byron has been scummy. I'm not going to vote for him.

For now, I'll

vote: Cap'n Rolfe (Captain Redblade).

If necessary, I'd change my vote to Penelope or Dogukan, because the further has been acting weird as well, and the latter just hasn't said anything of substance so far. But I don't feel confident voting for Byron.

[Tamamono]

Vote Count

The Great Byron (Bob) - 6 (Capt. Redblade, Trumpetking, def, Shadows, Palathadric, Cecilie)

Cap'n Rolfe (Capt. Redblade) - 3 (Adam, Captain Nemo, Peanuts)

Doğukan Akbulut (Dragonator) - 3 (Bob, Kristel, jamesn)

5 hours until Dawn.

[CorneliusMurdock]

I know that it's hard to defend against, Shane. You haven't slipped up as a scum, I just see things the way I see them.

Vote: Shane Donalds (Shadows)

[jimmynick]

If necessary, I'd change my vote to Penelope or Dogukan

When you voted, there were 0 votes against Penelope, 3 against Doğukan (copy-paste) and 2 against dear Rolfie. Either you're scum or you're not reading at all. If you don't think Byron is scum but you think the tailor could be, you should vote for the tailor.

We really cannot do with a no-lynch today, guys!

I know that it's hard to defend against, Shane. You haven't slipped up as a scum, I just see things the way I see them.

Why are you introducing a new candidate so late in the day?

[Tamamono]

August 25th, 2005

New Brickland, Florida

3:23 A.M.

After breaking into the local ice cream shop for a late night sweet treat, Shane Donalds (Shadows) walks out into the New Brickland Shopping Plaza, the light of the streetlamp his only guide.

"Man, it's weird how much I'm craving sugar lately... Must be the copious amounts of dope I do on a regular basis. Hyahaha!"

"I'm so cool."

Satisfied with himself, Shane turns around and walks toward the boardwalk. Unfortunately, he doesn't notice the not-so-dark figure behind him...

Well, he does, but it's too late.

"Wait, why do I feel like there's someone behind me?" he says aloud as the zombie raises its axe. "Must be the insane amount of dope I do daily. Hahaha!"

Tired of Shane's forced attempts to look like a real baller, the zombie brings down his axe hard on the dealer's spinal cord, killing him instantly.

"Unrgh, arggh, unphhff, umm!!" the zombie mumbles as it raises its axe triumphantly.

And that is the end of Shane Donalds (Shadows).

Vote Count

The Great Byron (Bob) - 5 (Capt. Redblade, Trumpetking, def, Palathadric, Cecilie)

Cap'n Rolfe (Capt. Redblade) - 3 (Adam, Captain Nemo, Peanuts)

Doğukan Akbulut (Dragonator) - 3 (Bob, Kristel, jamesn)

A dead person (Shadows) - 1 (CorneliusMurdock)

4 hours until Dawn.

[Cecilie]

Wait, what? We're getting killings at the end of the night now? I guess that confirms we have at least 2 killers out there...