Heroica RPG - Cruel Angel's Thesis ~ Day Two

[Endgame]

"Literally nothing. I didn't state an action."

[Scubacarrot]

That puts lots of faith in quivers to not be fashoink statement. Might as well say elf too proud and graceful to use clumsy gun, more likely in hands of hobgoblin.

Hm. I don't know, really, maybe the weapons were randomized, maybe there were not. I really can't say for sure. Does anyone have a weapon they do not think fits with them?

"Literally nothing. I didn't state an action."

Okay, thanks, would you mind helping us out by saying what your weapon is and what gem you have?

[Scorpiox]

You mean someone announcing in thread they'd do nothing, and then sending in an action in private? I really hope that that is not possible, it would be kinda bad (for Heroica) if it is.

"Actually I was referring ta' that possibility of folks lying about bein' attacked. We don't know each other's health, we don't know whether they're tellin' tha' truth. But yer idea is equally worrying - we'd be none tha' wiser that they'd changed their actions."

[Scubacarrot]

"Actually I was referring ta' that possibility of folks lying about bein' attacked. We don't know each other's health, we don't know whether they're tellin' tha' truth. But yer idea is equally worrying - we'd be none tha' wiser that they'd changed their actions."

What I've been going off so far is everyone we've seen so far, so what we've seen yesterday evening.

[Scorpiox]

Hm. I don't know, really, maybe the weapons were randomized, maybe there were not. I really can't say for sure. Does anyone have a weapon they do not think fits with them?

"Probably. My weapon is hardly befitting ta' a nord like me. It's small, a woman's weapon ta' say tha' least. Guess I shoulda' got down ta' tha' armoury instead of sleepin' in, if ya' know what I mean."

[Scubacarrot]

How it might fit is if Pauline did a ranged attack before she died.

[Scorpiox]

"Actually I was referring ta' that possibility of folks lying about bein' attacked. We don't know each other's health, we don't know whether they're tellin' tha' truth. But yer idea is equally worrying - we'd be none tha' wiser that they'd changed their actions."

"Fair enough - I was referin' ta' those who claim ta' have been shot in tha' night."

[Scubacarrot]

"Probably. My weapon is hardly befitting ta' a nord like me. It's small, a woman's weapon ta' say tha' least. Guess I shoulda' got down ta' tha' armoury instead of sleepin' in, if ya' know what I mean."

I don't know, I've heard before that the most burly and manly of men sometimes carry the smallest of weapons. Look at myself, I carry a flute! We don't need no compensating.

"Fair enough - I was referin' ta' those who claim ta' have been shot in tha' night."

Yes, that's the next thing to tackle, let's see if we can get this from yesterday sorted out first. I noticed I missed Zelphie upgrading her weapon yesterday evening as well...

[Endgame]

Okay, thanks, would you mind helping us out by saying what your weapon is and what gem you have?

"One thing I'd like clarification on before I say anything: saying what my weapon/gem is would expose it for theft, correct? I'm worried that I may be swindled at some point if I was to reveal my hand... And if that happens, it probably wouldn't look good for anyone.

However, I can state that my weapon is a melee weapon."

[Scorpiox]

I don't know, I've heard before that the most burly and manly of men sometimes carry the smallest of weapons. Look at myself, I carry a flute! We don't need no compensating.

Yes, that's the next thing to tackle, let's see if we can get this from yesterday sorted out first. I noticed I missed Zelphie upgrading her weapon yesterday evening as well...

"Ya' flirtin' with me, mister? It might also be an idea ta' remember who bought what yesterday, so we can guess who still has their gold and who is gettin' it from somewhere. In other news, didn't some others say they owned magnifying glasses yesterday? Have those people been usin' 'em?"

"One thing I'd like clarification on before I say anything: saying what my weapon/gem is would expose it for theft, correct? I'm worried that I may be swindled at some point if I was to reveal my hand... And if that happens, it probably wouldn't look good for anyone.

However, I can state that my weapon is a melee weapon."

"Convenient, ain't that just?"

[Endgame]

"Convenient, ain't that just?"

"If you're referring to not wanting to reveal my arsenal, than I hardly see how it is convenient. You were just as vague about what you're weidling, if not more so."

"However, I am willing to cooperate if it doesn't put my inventory or anyone else's life in danger. I simply want clarification the whole stealing thing."

[Scubacarrot]

Perhaps someone with steal could clarify that for you. Skrupp? Also Skrupp, just to be sure, you didn't send in an action yesterday, right?

"Ya' flirtin' with me, mister?

Nope, just stroking the flute.

[Scorpiox]

"If you're referring to not wanting to reveal my arsenal, than I hardly see how it is convenient. You were just as vague about what you're weidling, if not more so."

"However, I am willing to cooperate if it doesn't put my inventory or anyone else's life in danger. I simply want clarification the whole stealing thing."

"I have a little wee dagger. Your turn. I'm sayin' that it's kinda' convenient that ya' don't have a ranged weapon in this situation, I'll leave it at that."

Perhaps someone with steal could clarify that for you. Skrupp? Also Skrupp, just to be sure, you didn't send in an action yesterday, right?

"No, it ain't possible ta' choose tha' item ya' want ta' steal, it's just whatever's nearest tha' top of tha' pocket (random). To ya' second point, no I didn't state any kind of action."

[Brickdoctor]

BS. Complete BS. When have you said anything openly about being allied with Calico? And what about Brienne and Cromeo whom it is quite obvious from an actions-based POV that you are also allied with. Stop BS'ing. Consider yourself under attack.

It's rather obvious that some of us have worked together; we've never denied. On the other hand, I'm looking at your PM conversation, and you planned to try to avoid attention and distance yourself from each other:

So we're still sure about kob right? and we're gonna kill him in Broad daylight with little excuse? I think we should do It ranged. And I have a ranged attack I'm not using.

I will try to not assosciate myself with you fellows just to be safe. However I will support any points against Kob since thats want we want to do.

I think that I will just fly this round and it will be best.

So that definitely seems scummy to me, that you fear accusing someone and killing him and being known to have done it together. I will grant you this: your conversation has been going on for long enough that I do not believe all of you are scum. But that doesn't mean that some of you aren't.

[Scubacarrot]

I'll be honest, it seemed odd to me as well, but that's all. Brienne, what you are doing now just seems to unneccesarily force the case against Piro. He has like five or more people on him already, and has like four health left.

[Brickdoctor]

I'll be honest, it seemed odd to me as well, but that's all. Brienne, what you are doing now just seems to unneccesarily force the case against Piro. He has like five or more people on him already, and has like four health left.

I was invited to a private conversation to see how this was planned, and I saw something scummy. I'm not going to just sit here and do nothing about it. What I just pointed out applies to Fleyra as well.

And by the way, nowhere in your private conversation did I see something particularly helpful from Piro that I would consider reason to protect him.

[Endgame]

"Now that the theiving mechanics have been clarified for me (Thanks, Oxford): I weild a dagger and a Topaz, Scamander."

[Scubacarrot]

I was invited to a private conversation to see how this was planned, and I saw something scummy. I'm not going to just sit here and do nothing about it. What I just pointed out applies to Fleyra as well.

Fair enough, I didn't like the way you brought it, but okay. You also did not send in an action yesterday, right?

[Brickdoctor]

Fair enough, I didn't like the way you brought it, but okay. You also did not send in an action yesterday, right?

Yes, I did; I took Cover. (Which didn't get shown in the conclusion, just like Zpilf's Hide and Jinnipher's Block and Corelin's Cover, but I can't use a ranged attack anyways, so in my case that doesn't really make a difference.)

[Scubacarrot]

Yes, I did; I took Cover. (Which didn't get shown in the conclusion, just like Zpilf's Hide and Jinnipher's Block and Corelin's Cover, but I can't use a ranged attack anyways, so in my case that doesn't really make a difference.)

Ah okay, I missed some actions, thanks for the heads up.

And by the way, nowhere in your private conversation did I see something particularly helpful from Piro that I would consider reason to protect him.

Put yourself in my spot: Would you rather protect a random, or someone you know has a strong attack you've been talking to and haven't found suspicious at that point.

[Brickdoctor]

Put yourself in my spot: Would you rather protect a random, or someone you know has a strong attack you've been talking to and haven't found suspicious at that point.

I would've considered not protecting anyone at all, protecting just myself to be safe, and/or protecting someone like Calico who got attacked. I wouldn't have protected someone whose behavior "seemed odd":

I'll be honest, it seemed odd to me as well, but that's all.

[Scubacarrot]

Also, I love Zpilf's tactics. If his action is what I think it is, he can never be killed if he is quick enough. Now to hope he is on Heroica's side.

I would've considered not protecting anyone at all, protecting just myself to be safe, and/or protecting someone like Calico who got attacked. I wouldn't have protected someone whose behavior "seemed odd":

Odd as in no reason for it, not as in suspicious. but yeah. Calico I found odd, as in suspicious, she stole stuff from someone, and I guessed that's why she was attacked, I also figured she would be dead today even if I protected her, as she is not the highest of levels and ate two attacks already at that point. And I can't protect myself.

[CorneliusMurdock]

Correct, except for that you theoretically could have changed your action as it wasn't shown in the conclusion. I'm willing to believe you, though. (You didn't cover Piro, did you? You don't have to tell me who you did, but it wasn't him, right?) And with it unlikely that there would be many repeats with 5 elements and 6 magic users who could've attacked, Eris being the Light using Nephilim who attacked Calico seems incredibly likely.

Maybe I'm just to trusting. I hadn't even thought about action changing being a possibility since everything would be public.

Perhaps "cover" will only be shown if that protection is needed.

I did not cover Piro during the night, either.

[Kadabra]

So two of these people have done nothing, and four of these have done ranged attacks. Jeddam and Percival have quivers. Our mystery handcannoneer is either Doranee or Enya.

That puts lots of faith in quivers to not be fashoink statement. Might as well say elf too proud and graceful to use clumsy gun, more likely in hands of hobgoblin.

You mean someone announcing in thread they'd do nothing, and then sending in an action in private? I really hope that that is not possible, it would be kinda bad (for Heroica) if it is.

Yes, it's possible, Sandy the Veterans mentioned it. And like Swinehurst says, the quivers are meaningless as each character was explicitly said to get a random weapon with a random WP in the rules.

[Scubacarrot]

It actually doesn't say the weapons are random as well. Just that their strength is.