Heroica RPG - Cruel Angel's Thesis ~ Day Three

[swils]

Heyo snakey man!

I am pointing out wit my pointer that Swinehurst could be kill stealing to keep Ezeal's items for the secretly evil ones. That and the xp too.

Silly. Lionman take only two attacks that day. I not sure how strong Theodor make his bombs but I could almost have taken him out alone. I understand your logic if maybe three or four heroes join up against him, but two? Silly.

Also, from dead dragoon's letter:

"Swinehurst (swils) - attacked"

I never attack duckface. Her list wrong.

[CMP]

Calico casually sips a Potion.

Also, from dead dragoon's letter:

"Swinehurst (swils) - attacked"

I never attack duckface. Her list wrong.

"I think U'Dargan was talking in general, Porkins. She oh-so-helpfully listed the people who attacked publically, regardless of who or why. As if....guess she also didn't take into account that we might actually be catching Nephilim with them."

[Chromeknight]

Heyo pretty pink fluff

Which is why I pointed out that everyone can attack. EVERYONE. Even the cabbage faced gremlin and his measly 1xWP:1 attack.

If there are only three or four it is entirely possible that we could kill them all in a single phase.

Or at least more than one, reducing their number even with a conversion taken into account.

By the way. You list 7 Nephilim.

How do you know there must be that many? Why not 6 or 8? Have you considered conversions? Especially in the light of no kills last night?

[swils]

I not recall verbally attacking duckface either. Besides, list specify 'verbally' sometimes.

To be froink, I believe I mostly ignore dragoon and hatchling. Might be wrong but pretty sure.

[CMP]

By the way. You list 7 Nephilim.

How do you know there must be that many? Why not 6 or 8? Have you considered conversions? Especially in the light of no kills last night?

"I said there could be more, I believe I, like, mentioned I was listing those I most strongly believed to be Nephilim. As far as no kills last night goes....there are a lot of factors involved. Enya was sealed, the rangers don't do that much damage, Fleyra was under heat and probably didn't want to make it worse, and Zelphie was probably messing with her staff some more. But I was expecting at least one death as a result of the Nephilheimers.."

To be froink, I believe I mostly ignore dragoon and hatchling. Might be wrong but pretty sure.

"Well, you can get to know the hatchling at least a little better," giggles Calico mischievously, U'Dargan's tiny dragon hatchling slithering out of her pouch and wrapping itself around her arm.

[Duvors]

Even the cabbage faced gremlin and his measly 1xWP:1 attack.

"How did ye know my axe had only one WP?"

"Well, you can get to know the hatchling at least a little better," giggles Calico mischievously, U'Dargan's tiny dragon hatchling slithering out of her pouch and wrapping itself around her arm.

Edited September 5, 2013 by Lord Duvors

[swils]

Retak hesitate first day and try to change plan after in motion. Too coincidental investigator dies before checking Retak. On top of all, redead heroes stinking up place. You all check your suspicions, I follow mine.

Swinehurst grabs his sword for a Furious Critical Attack against Retak Ysp.

[Duvors]

Retak hesitate first day and try to change plan after in motion. Too coincidental investigator dies before checking Retak. On top of all, redead heroes stinking up place. You all check your suspicions, I follow mine.

Swinehurst grabs his sword for a Furious Critical Attack against Retak Ysp.

"Wait a minute, ye ought tae investigate him first, (plus, he is the only thing keeping Kob alive, this thing needs comic relief)."

[CMP]

"Wait a minute, ye ought tae investigate him first, (plus, he is the only thing keeping Kob alive, this thing needs comic relief)."

"He likely helped kill the guy with the glass. Hell, he's probably got it in his inventory right now."

[The Legonater]

A lot of you are shooting down Calico for 'systematically killing classes'. Well guess what. That's exactly what she's doing. It's called simple deduction, you fools. Did they never teach you children that!? And it's working. We've already killed one Nephilim. We could be well on our way to cracking open the whole operation. And now's when you intend to turn on us? What's gotten into you!?

[CMP]

What's gotten into you!?

"Guess. It starts with a 'u', ends with an 'nholy dark angel corruption'..."

[Chromeknight]

"How did ye know my axe had only one WP?"

Heyo frumious gremlin

Seriously? You bought it from sham-poo. He sells wp:1 weapons.

As for your attack multiplier it was a guess based on your class.

Edit to complete post.

Edited September 5, 2013 by Chromeknight

[Flipz]

"'pologies, all, I seem ta be in a spot o' pers'nal IRL trouble, if ya catch me drift. A word ta tha wise: if ya value yer life, do not underestimate tha myst'rious art o' 'Yoga'. Me poor, achin' back..."

"Anyhow, as a result o me pers'nal problems, I'll likely be unable to perform any other actions for tha rest o' tha in-game day. If ya have need o' me, now is tha time. Sorry fer tha inconvenience."

EDIT: to change the formatting for clarity--I'm still using Hide as per my original action unless someone really needs my help. Also, just to be clear: this is a personal problem, there is no in-game effect preventing me from acting.

Edited September 5, 2013 by Flipz

[Kadabra]

What the absolute frick. I leave and suddenly the Town has been convinced based on the words of two or three lurkers to KILL ONE OF THEIR LEADERS. If you go through with this (because you are scum), when Calico flips Town we'll know exactly how to complete our scum list. We had a pretty dang good start already though, huh scummies?

[Duvors]

Heyo frumious gremlin

Seriously? You bought it from sham-poo. He sells wp:1 weapons.

As for your attack multiplier it was a guess based on your class.

Edit to complete post.

"But I dinnae have an attack multiplier."

What the absolute frick. I leave and suddenly the Town has been convinced based on the words of two or three lurkers to KILL ONE OF THEIR LEADERS. If you go through with this (because you are scum), when Calico flips Town we'll know exactly how to complete our scum list. We had a pretty dang good start already though, huh scummies?

"I would love it if ye spoke in a way tha' we could understand."

Edited September 5, 2013 by Lord Duvors

[Kadabra]

"But I dinnae have an attack multiplier."

"I would love it if ye spoke in a way tha' we could understand."

Nice to meet you, pot. I'm kettle.

Since you probably don't know what that means, then just think about how easy you are to understand, then read that 'confusing' post again and you'll see that I mean that Calico is one of the most pro-town players in the game, and Shadir and co are some of the (if you consider the evidence and not just the fact that they've been quiet) scummiest. Yet you side with the scummy.

[Duvors]

A lot of you are shooting down Calico for 'systematically killing classes'. Well guess what. That's exactly what she's doing. It's called simple deduction, you fools. Did they never teach you children that!? And it's working. We've already killed one Nephilim. We could be well on our way to cracking open the whole operation. And now's when you intend to turn on us? What's gotten into you!?

"Are ye supporting wholesale massacre and tryin' tae justify it by sayin' tha' it's workin'? There were Five killed yesterday an' only One was scum, at tha' rate we'll lose faster than a sale at tha Fishmarket."

[LordoftheNoobs]

OOC: I think Duvors was talking about how you never seem to be in-character and always refer to the heroes as 'townies', as if this is a normal Mafia thing. No offence or anything, but it's pretty confusing (especially to the characters themselves. )

[Duvors]

Since you probably don't know what that means, then just think about how easy you are to understand, then read that 'confusing' post again and you'll see that I mean that Calico is one of the most pro-town players in the game, and Shadir and co are some of the (if you consider the evidence and not just the fact that they've been quiet) scummiest. Yet you side with the scummy.

"Personaly, I dinnae like her, an' anyway have ye ever decided tae read a book cause tha cover looked nice? If she is scum, guid fer us, if she isn't, weel, we can just wait until I make a new Phoenix Essence.

[The Legonater]

"But I dinnae have an attack multiplier."

"I would love it if ye spoke in a way tha' we could understand."

I can understand her fine, you stupid greenskin. She's saying that two people who have almost absolutely silent suddenly speak up and now you and too many others are suddenly attacking one of the people that have been helping Heroica since the beginning of this incursion. We would likely have not killed a Nephilim without her. Don't you realize manipulation when you see it smack in front of you!?

[Chromeknight]

Nice to meet you, pot. I'm kettle.

Since you probably don't know what that means, then just think about how easy you are to understand, then read that 'confusing' post again and you'll see that I mean that Calico is one of the most pro-town players in the game, and Shadir and co are some of the (if you consider the evidence and not just the fact that they've been quiet) scummiest. Yet you side with the scummy.

Heyo fishylips (thanks for last night by the way, it was wild)

Why isn't Shadir on pinky's list? I thought only two of the three Enya/Shadir/Ysp were guilty?

Or is it just a magic user purge as others have said?

I think you're onto something with Shadir, so it's really a question about Calico's consistency.

[CMP]

"Are ye supporting wholesale massacre and tryin' tae justify it by sayin' tha' it's workin'? There were Five killed yesterday an' only One was scum, at tha' rate we'll lose faster than a sale at tha Fishmarket."

"Dare I ask what your idea is? One outta three - it's three by the way, the scum were behind the deaths of Skrupp and Heron, and I did not encourage the death of U'Dargan - is better than your odds of finding scum."

Heyo fishylips (thanks for last night by the way, it was wild)

Why isn't Shadir on pinky's list? I thought only two of the three Enya/Shadir/Ysp were guilty?

Or is it just a magic user purge as others have said?

I think you're onto something with Shadir, so it's really a question about Calico's consistency.

"Once it was brought to my attention that Retak did not appear to investigate Emmanuelle on Day One, I realized he was likelier to have a hand in the day one killings than Shadir. We've been suspicious of Retak for some time, but the chance of him having, like, been a killer on day one skyrocketed once that was pointed out. Kharybdis hasn't been present since I found that out."

[The Legonater]

"Are ye supporting wholesale massacre and tryin' tae justify it by sayin' tha' it's workin'? There were Five killed yesterday an' only One was scum, at tha' rate we'll lose faster than a sale at tha Fishmarket."

We had four townies dead because we were going on minimalist evidence at best, and in any situation like this sacrifices have to be made to win in the end. But we have proof now, pure and simple deduction, of several Nephilim and you're willing to throw that all away? If these are the 'Heroes' we're dealing with, I'd prefer to die myself than to see the Hall become a den of thieves and traitors.

[Chromeknight]

Heyo marshmallow.

Fair enough.

[Waterbrick Down]

{Simmer down, simmer down all of you! Enough of this! Let us calm ourselves down and actually listen to what each of us have to say. I am not willing to believe the excuse, that there is just a bunch of hogwash being said and that it isn't worth paying attention to. Anyone reasoning like that, deserves to be slain if they aren't willing to put in the effort to actually purge the Nephilim from our midst and yes I am looking at you, Shadir, Doranee, and Zelphie. You are some of the most looked up to heroes in this hall and all I have heard from you is complaining up until today. If you don't like the attention it is garnering you then do your part, wade through the mess and contribute.

Now I have thought long and hard and considered many things and I will have many things to say so please remain with me. First off a correction of my earlier analysis, this time taking into account the possibility that Retak has lied to us and never used the magnifying glass she was given on Day 1, given that no one saw her using it this is a very real if not certain possibility. This revised theory also takes into account that Shadir might not be in possession of a Diamond but may in fact be the owner of the Topaz that killed Pauline (Shadir feel free to tell us what type of gem you do in fact possess). Additionally this also takes into account that Enya is telling the truth and that she is not able to use spells, a point I'm willing to believe given that she could have used her Spirit during the Nights with much more deadly force than a simple spell.

Scenario 2

Day 1:

Zarissa (Opal): Attacked Usharnam

Shadir (Topaz): Attacked Pauline

Enya (Topaz): Attacked Pauline

Pyro (Amethyst): Did Nothing

Kob (Ruby): Did Nothing

Pauline (Opal?): Did Nothing

Eris (Diamond): Did Nothing

Retak (Diamond): Attacked Calico

Night 1:

Zarissa (Opal): Attacked Usharnam

Shadir (Topaz/Opal): Attacked Panduin with Opal acquired by his team mates

Enya (Topaz): Claimed to have watched Retak [i suspect you attacked Pauline]

Pyro (Amethyst): Did Nothing (Given Kob's Ruby)

Eris (Diamond): Attacked Theodor

Retak (Diamond): Raised Kob

Day 2:

Zarissa (Opal): Gave Opal to Zpilf

Shadir (Topaz/Opal): Did Nothing

Enya (Topaz): Attacked U'dargan

Pyro (Amethyst/Ruby): Did Nothing

Eris (Diamond): Did Nothing

Retak (Diamond): Attacked Skrupp

So where does this leave us? As Calico has said, two of the three Mages must be Nephilim which accounts for the Day 1 attacks (unless of course you are of the opinion that Calico is scum, in which case only the lightning attack was from the Nephilim. I find this hard to believe given Calico's hostility towards Ezeal during Day 2). I am not of the opinion that we must kill all of the Mages nor all those with ranged attacks. I am of the opinion that we kill 2 of the mages because the evidence points in that direction and I am of the opinion that we will need to kill probably two of those with ranged attacks because again the evidence points in the direction of there being two Nephilim among them. Those lobbying against using any logic or process of elimination are far more scummy to me and are simply trying to incite panic into us as a whole.

Right now, I believe we should focus are attacks on Shadir and Retak. Retak for apparently lying about using the Magnifying Glass and Shadir for being the only other Mage in either of my scenarios capable of participating in the death of Pauline.

As far as others beyond that, Doranee and Zelphie seem to be inciting a riot not based on logic or reasoning, but on buzz words and cliche phrases. If Calico should be a Nephilim I'm sure they could find plenty of convicting statements over the past two days, but they instead decided to go the easier route and just shout accusations. Where were they yesterday when we were hashing all of this out with Piro the Visionary? Where were their concerns and doubts then? No, now that they are being singled out for their noncontributing behavior they make their way out of the woodwork to save themselves. If they should be part of Heroica then good, let them save themselves and actually contribute more than buzz words and propaganda speeches. If they are Nephilim then may they find death today.

Another individual who has caught my eye is Corelin who has said that we should use reason and logic, but I have seen little from her in that regard these past few days. All she seems to do is provide cover, of which we have seen none of even though the Paladin did provide cover for the Halfling yesterday.

Now if my calculations are correct we have:

Shadir: 2+2+2= 6-18 Damage

Doranee: 2+10= 12-16 Damage

Retak: 2+2= 4-12 Damage

Enya: 2-6 Damage

Calico: 10+4+2 = 16-24 Damage

Fernandu: 2-6 Damage

I think we need to make sure that Shadir and Retak are taken care of first, if nothing less.

Now to address my final point which I believe Chromeo has brought up as well. His theory might have some validity to it, but I'd like to wait till we see a little more evidence before we jump to that conclusion and start planning for it, but we should definitely keep it under consideration. If things are indeed not what they seem, then my theory is that whomever actually kills another hero might be susceptible to the Nephilim's influence. After all Ezeal did kill Kob during the first day and was found to be a Nephilim. Was this a matter of coincidence or did his actions only cement the Nephilim's influence in his life? Should this be the case, then we are in very deep trouble as many heroes lives have been claimed and thus many Nephilim could now be walking among us. I think time will tell though if either my or Chromeo's fears are indeed true. Now can we speak rationally, or must we return to our riotous ways?}