Mafia After Dark - Night 3: Reservoir Dogs

[Chillax Darth Frodo]

I'm actually starting to ponder if I should move Peter out of the third spot on my list and instead give it to Bernard.

Go for it.

He's only been possessed by this weird Sith-hobbit creature for a day but already he's been going into overdrive. He's swiftly become an extremely aggressive player, and it almost seems to me like he's overcompensating. He pretty much jumped down Candy and Cebastiane's throats for not immediately responding to his request for suspect lists the minute he asked. He's been on Colin's back for a good chunk of the day because... why exactly? His list of suspects?

I posted my list of suspects when I demanded everyone else's. So, what exactly is driving your suspicion of me? Because I'm being aggressive? I have half a mind to put you over my knee and spank your bare bottom!

[Kristel]

In case I forget by the time I get to the end of writing this post:

Vote: Dogukan Akbulut (Dragonator)

I'm getting a little irritated that people are just repeating what Bernard has said. Funny how I'm being called out for "copying" others, yet those who are accusing me are doing the same.

You seem to have forgotten that I already called you out for being much quieter than your usual lawyer-y self. See here.

Simple actually, I had a genius idea to try and indicate that I had, indeed, been prevented from talking and was not simply avoiding you all. Sadly it seems we do indeed receive private warnings, so that backfired somewhat, however I can still say that I have indeed been warned and I was indeed told not to post during the day; someone was clearly trying to silence me so they could continue with this ridiculous attempt to frame me for... not much right?

So let's recap why I posted. Primarily, I wanted to clear up the whole bone-picking thing, which Kristina has managed to completely side-rail you all on. I had no clue Kristina was in contact with Shane privately, not even the slightest idea of it. You think I'd be dumb enough to mention something she said to him in private when I have no way of knowing that? Don't be ridiculous. My bone picking comment was in reference to her very early stab at Shane, which he countered and then she never seemed to respond to until suddenly, oh Shane's dead look at that. I found that suspicious and wanted to point it out.

I was ok with his response at that time. I had assumed it obvious, but maybe I'll point it out anyway - the reason I contacted Shane in the first place is because I thought he was town. It was one of Shane's early responses in the PM that made me think he might be scum. I would not have contacted him if I thought he was scum.

Voting wise, I'll have to go with Dogfoodbowl. As I've said earlier, he's just top on my list, and lying about being silenced so he didn't have to talk, plus all the Kristina/Shane/Person A things just makes him come off as the most scummy to me.

Here, Dogfoodcan seems to be saything that he made up the fact that he had been "silenced". Though he also apparently seems to be also saything it was true and that he did get a warning from Tam. Either way, I took it as him lying, and so did a few others (Peter brings it up further up this page as well); and the whole situation of it just adds more scummness to him in my view; since he's making up reasons to avoid talking.

There are others, including myself, who question whether Dogukan was really blocked or gagged. What strikes me here though is how confidently and matter-of-factly you state he was lying, like you know that this is exactly what he was doing.

I still feel too little attention has been paid to Person A. It seems very coincidental that Kristina finds a protector in the first person she contacts, then tells him/her something about Shane and Shane ends up dead soon after. That seems pretty off to me and is the biggest question I would want to persue right now, if so many of you weren't mindlessly persuing me. It seems possible to me that Person A may be manipulating Kristina; I'm sure the Ferraris would jump at the chance to be in contact with a Malone privately and would want to make the most of that opportunity. Protector is easy enough for scum to claim as they can simply not kill the person they're manipulating; I've done that very thing in a past life.

So my conclusion then, is that I urge you, Kristina, to perhaps have another think about the circumstances so far and think about the possibility that maybe Person A isn't as trustworthy as you think! I certainly see a lot more substance in questioning whoever it is as there is a clear possibility that they were involved in Shane's death somehow, if you passed on some information to them about him.

I meant "Things" in the sense of the events, like Kristina saying she thought it had to have been Shane talking (Or because of their apparent closeness in games of life) to Dogfoodcan, which led to the slip up and Shane's death (Indicating that Dogfoodcan is scum), ergo making Dogfoodcan scum.

Would love to know what slip up you are referring to here and how that led to Shane's death. Both you and the Dog have been hinting that Shane's death is somehow linked to me telling Person A something about Shane.

At the time that Shane was killed, Person A knew I was talking to Shane and that I thought he was scum. Under what circumstances do you think that would lead to Shane's death?

I keep hearing mention of a protector coming into play. What happened with a protector?

I think it was answered already but just to clarify, Person A claimed protector to me.

Since the Town is usually trying to form a block behind the scenes to verify everyone and we can't do that, perhaps we open this game up and have everyone claim their roles...

You know that is a stupid idea, so I'm going to assume you propose that just to see people's reactions. Our protector, whether this is Person A or someone else, can presumably only protect one person at a time.

I really couldn't tell you what your colon did but I'm not cleaning it up.

[Tamamono]

Vote Count

Doğukan Akbulut (Dragonator) - 9 (CorneliusMurdock, Trumpetking, def, Cecilie, Peanuts, Captain Nemo, Pandora, Capt. Redblade, Kristel)

Colin Malone (CorneliusMurdock) - 2 (Chillax Darth Frodo, Dragonator)

27 hours until Dawn

[Capt. Redblade]

Go for it.

I posted my list of suspects when I demanded everyone else's. So, what exactly is driving your suspicion of me? Because I'm being aggressive? I have half a mind to put you over my knee and spank your bare bottom!

It's how aggressive you're being. As if you're actively trying to appear town in order to hide something. And when I say "his list", I am referring to Colin's. He posted his list and your response was something to the tune of, "Welp, you're obviously scum. Might as well make sure everybody knows it."

In that initial response you offered no justification for why you were suddenly accusing Colin. There was no attempt at analysis, no questioning of his methods or words, no attempt to suss things out with Colin and examine his response, just an automatic knee-jerk accusation. Since then, you have still only really repeated the one point that Colin is scum without offering much justification at all. Oh, and then there was some stuff about your colon, but I'd rather not look into that. (As the actress said to the bishop.)

So, now you know why I am suspicious of you, would you care to let me know why you're suspicious of him?

[def]

I'm trying to figure out why Pricilla wrote a diatribe and then didn't vote, despite planning to be away for the rest of the day. That's not helpful.

Sorry folks! I will be away today with no internet access (Saturday AEST).

[Chillax Darth Frodo]

So, now you know why I am suspicious of you, would you care to let me know why you're suspicious of him?

Your gaudy outfit must be reflecting light in your eyes and causing you to be unable to read. Although I'll admit my explanation has been subtle.

1. I picked up on something from Colin I'm not used to from his Town game (his response I'll get to in a bit). It's in the post that I quote where I say it's the Scummiest thing anyone has said in this game and it is. Take a look at it.
   
2. He hasn't repsonded much to it, at all. Because there is no response, he's Scum, I can tell. He's afraid to say too much now that I've caught him out.
   
3. In defending himself, he's not really adding anything new to the conversation now is he? There's more to that and I really don't want to spell it out because he may correct it in the future and there's such a fun Scum-tell involved there.
   
4. The big one, and nobody came forward with the right term, so I'll tell you. He has soft-claimed "Think of other reasons my game may be off." he says. He's insinuating that he has a Night Action and at the same time admits that his game is off. But his game is off in a different way than having a Night Action. There's a very certain element of any Colon game that is just missing. So far he's been shitting around hoping to get cum at night. That's not the Colon I know.

Or maybe I'm just loud and wrong.

I'm not too convinced on your towniness anyway, Captain.

And before anybody calls me out for outing Colon's soft stool claim, I guarantee the Scum already caught it. If anyone in the Town didn't, it should be pointed out. I'd prefer for the Town to have the same information the Scum probably do. Soft-claiming when only one person and the lynch candidate have a suspicion of you is very suspicious behavior, indeed

Ew, I feel dirty.

[Kristel]

I'm trying to figure out why Pricilla wrote a diatribe and then didn't vote, despite planning to be away for the rest of the day. That's not helpful.

Her post doesn't say that bit that you quoted anymore.

[def]

Her post doesn't say that bit that you quoted anymore.

That's from another page, if you click on the link, you'll see.

Any ideas from the braintrust? Who are you thinking of voting for?

[Chillax Darth Frodo]

People who listed their suspicions:

Me (Peter, Terrence, Dogfoodcan)

Cebastiane (Dogukan, Terrence, Adelaide)

Candy the Slut (Dogukan, Penelope, Kristina)

Adelaide (Dogukan, Terrence, Cap'n Rolfe) claims to have been blocked too...megablocks to make Dogfoodcan's block sound more plausible?

Colon (Dogfoodcan, Cap'n Rolfe, Penelope Talbott)

Kristina (Dogukan, Terrence, Adelaide)

Cap'n Rolfe (Dogukan, Person A, Peter)

Patricia (Dexter, Colon, Rolfe)

Dexter (Dogukan, Terrence, Penelope)

Priscilla (Colon, Dogukan, Rolfe)

Terrence (Priscilla, Adelaide, Dogukan)

Peter (Dogukan, Rolfe, Terrence)

It seems Dogukan is the only one who didn't list his top three suspicions.

Here are the rankings of who we, collectively, find suspicious:

Dogukan: ||||||||||| (Me, Cebastiane, Candy, Adelaide, Colon, Kristina, Rolfe, Dexter, Priscilla, Terrence, Peter) 11

Peter: || (Me, Rolfe) 2

Terrence: ||||| (Me, Cebastiane, Adelaide, Kristina, Peter) 5

Adelaide: ||| (Cebastiane, Kristina, Terrence) 3

Penelope: ||| (Candy, Colon, Dexter) 3

Kristina: | (Candy) 1

Cap'n Rolfe: |||||| (Adelaide, Colon, Dexter, Patricia, Priscilla, Peter) 6

Person A: | (Rolfe) 1

Dexter: | (Patricia) 1

Colon: || (Patricia, Priscilla) 2

Priscilla: | (Terrence) 1

I'm sure time of day has a lot to do with the votes. If I was to re-vote, I'd add Colon to my list, obviously. However, it looks like the top three suspects are Dogfoodcan (obviously as he's being lynched), Cap'n Rolfe and Terrence.

And Colon.

[def]

I think Colin is moving up the list. I would put him ahead of Penelope at the moment.

I'm starting to wonder about Patricia too. Her "I'm annoying" strategy really isn't helpful, and there's been a fair amount of fluff in her long speeches.

[Chillax Darth Frodo]

I think you have a Bob up your Colon about Patricia, really.

[Kristel]

That's from another page, if you click on the link, you'll see.

Any ideas from the braintrust? Who are you thinking of voting for?

D'oh.

I've already voted for Dogukan.

[def]

I've already voted for Dogukan.

Sorry, I was looking at the last page.

Anyway, do you all think it's safe to say by the time that there will be no zombie attacks today? Could we have a day protector or a day blocker, or is it a delayed night action? As strange as it is, I'm betting the vig summoned the zombies, by the choice of Shane, and the lack of a kill today.

[Chillax Darth Frodo]

Way to tempt fate. There are 24 hours more left in the day.

[def]

I'm thinking it would have happened at around 24 hours, and that Tam is taking a long nap. So, based on that...

He could very well defy expectations though. Personally, I don't believe in fate. We are making our own destinies here.

[Kristel]

Sorry, I was looking at the last page.

Anyway, do you all think it's safe to say by the time that there will be no zombie attacks today? Could we have a day protector or a day blocker, or is it a delayed night action? As strange as it is, I'm betting the vig summoned the zombies, by the choice of Shane, and the lack of a kill today.

I'm thinking it would have happened at around 24 hours, and that Tam is taking a long nap. So, based on that...

He could very well defy expectations though. Personally, I don't believe in fate. We are making our own destinies here.

Shane' kill was much closer to the end of the night. I don't think it's safe to say yet that we're not going to get a zombie kill today.

[Capt. Redblade]

Your gaudy outfit must be reflecting light in your eyes and causing you to be unable to read. Although I'll admit my explanation has been subtle.

1. I picked up on something from Colin I'm not used to from his Town game (his response I'll get to in a bit). It's in the post that I quote where I say it's the Scummiest thing anyone has said in this game and it is. Take a look at it.
   

Yeah, I'm lookin' but I ain't seein' it. I must be gettin' too distracted by my amazing outfit. (That hack tailor could never design somethin' this chic!)

If you're referring to the post where he originally listed his suspicions, I been up and down that thing time and time again and I'm still not sure what got you a-pingin' in the first place. Clearly, I am missing some great and obvious truth here, so please explain, O Wise One.

[CorneliusMurdock]

I haven't been responding to your accusations because there isn't really much to say, Dad. You're meta-gaming me. Anything I say only seems to make you berate me more. That's why I chose to ignore you after the colon thing. I've already had an intense fight elsewhere today, and I thought that ours might wait until later.

All I can say for now is that you're wrong. It's been a while since we've been in a situation like this together and a while since I've been in one at all. You're not picking up what you think you are and it's really too bad that I can't set the record straight for you without being overheard. I like it better when we get along, dad.

[Dragonator]

Doggy, you're on to something with me? I don't recall you saying anything about me until I was brought up as an alternative to lynching you.

And Person A is only suspicious because Kris suspects them of passing information about their conversation to you. If you're not scum, you'd have no logical reason to suspect them. But you'd rather anyone go down than you.

Actually Colin I've mentioned you a few times, I pointed you out yesterday even. Been talking about you for a while you fashion-less fellow so don't try to pull that one.

...Others like Colin popped in, yawned, said nothing much happened and then left again, why was their "contribution" any less suspicious than mine, hmm Kristina? I would have thought saying something useless like that would be more suspicious as it's clear they're just trying to keep up appearances, so to speak....

As to your second point, if anyone would bother reading they would see that my suspicion of Person A stems from the fact that Kristina said she told whoever it is about Shane, and then Shane was suddenly killed. Coincidence? Perhaps, but certainly a much better lead than the speculation made up about me, so I'd say it is worth looking in to tomorrow once I have passed away. I'd also say Colin is worth looking in to, scummy fellow that he seems to be.

As to my top three suspicions, my apologies for not saying so. I think it's clear that number one for me currently is Colin. Number 2 is whoever Person A is. I've been rather focused on those two and attempting to provide some clarity from Kristina's rather unfortunate twisting of my words, so I don't have a third suspect sorry. Perhaps Bernard, for trying to act like he's actually useful or something. Silly old man.

Thanks for accepting that my bone picking was to do with your initial comments against Shane by the way Kristina, I'm glad we cleared that up. An unfortunate difference of perspective on how aggressive your words seemed, but at least we've cleared up that miscommunication. I think it would be wise to be cautious about attacking people too aggressively in the day threads, as the scum seem to be doing quite a good job of trying to silence someone that was being looked at during the night in order to sow a bit more confusion.

[Kristel]

As to my top three suspicions, my apologies for not saying so. I think it's clear that number one for me currently is Colin. Number 2 is whoever Person A is. I've been rather focused on those two and attempting to provide some clarity from Kristina's rather unfortunate twisting of my words, so I don't have a third suspect sorry.

I'd like to ask you about this, but you have a habit of ignoring specific questions I've asked you.

Thanks for accepting that my bone picking was to do with your initial comments against Shane by the way Kristina, I'm glad we cleared that up.

Now who's twisting whose words?

[Cecilie]

I'm thinking it would have happened at around 24 hours, and that Tam is taking a long nap. So, based on that...

Hm, I went back to check, and it seems the zombie kill happened only about 6 hours before the day ended (unless I'm totally miscalculating here...).

As for Colin, I don't think I'm seeing what Bernard is seeing that makes him so convinced he's scum, but there is something about him that sets him off from how I'm used to seeing him. Since this is only metagame-feelings, I'm not ready to vote for him just yet...

[Dragonator]

I'd like to ask you about this, but you have a habit of ignoring specific questions I've asked you.

Now who's twisting whose words?

Ask away! I have nothing to hide. May as well help as much as I can before you kill me off, even if I won't be believed until tomorrow.

[def]

Hm, I went back to check, and it seems the zombie kill happened only about 6 hours before the day ended (unless I'm totally miscalculating here...).

Sorry, I do way too much from memory, and thought he was dead for longer than that

[Pandora]

Bernard asked for a list of suspects and why so that's the whole purpose of the post. Bernard is basically asking everyone for a nice summary of their own suspicions i.e. to repeat themselves and repeat what has been already said.

Uh huh, and those who hadn't listed their suspicions weren't repeating themselves. Doesn't really explain why you repeated my point about Rolfe, but you added some of your own thoughts, which is what I was asking.

I'm starting to wonder about Patricia too. Her "I'm annoying" strategy really isn't helpful, and there's been a fair amount of fluff in her long speeches.

You don't want to play with me any more Dexie-poo? It's not my fault you're so damn scummy.

[Kristel]

Ask away! I have nothing to hide. May as well help as much as I can before you kill me off, even if I won't be believed until tomorrow.

I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but I'm happy to give it one more try.

I still feel too little attention has been paid to Person A. It seems very coincidental that Kristina finds a protector in the first person she contacts, then tells him/her something about Shane and Shane ends up dead soon after. That seems pretty off to me and is the biggest question I would want to persue right now, if so many of you weren't mindlessly persuing me. It seems possible to me that Person A may be manipulating Kristina; I'm sure the Ferraris would jump at the chance to be in contact with a Malone privately and would want to make the most of that opportunity. Protector is easy enough for scum to claim as they can simply not kill the person they're manipulating; I've done that very thing in a past life.

So my conclusion then, is that I urge you, Kristina, to perhaps have another think about the circumstances so far and think about the possibility that maybe Person A isn't as trustworthy as you think! I certainly see a lot more substance in questioning whoever it is as there is a clear possibility that they were involved in Shane's death somehow, if you passed on some information to them about him.

Your words above suggest that Shane's death was somehow linked to something that I said to Person A about Shane. All person Person A knew was that I was in contact with Shane and that I thought he was scum.

I would like to know why you feel a need to suggest that I shared any other information about Shane.

I would also like to know under what circumstances you think those two bits of information (i.e. that I was in contact with Shane and that I thought he was scum) would lead Person A to want Shane dead.