Tamamono Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 (edited) Players only, please! August 26th, 2005 New Brickland, Florida 9:30 A.M. As the morning of August 26th slinks by at a snails pace, two familiar figures stand atop the hotel. Below them, the paramedic loads the beautiful dead body of Dogfoodbowl into the ambulance to be taken down to the morgue. The body is covered over with a white sheet, covering Doggy's gruesome postmortem exp ression. Beside him, the police investigate the scene of the crime, yellow hazard tape roping off part of the area. "Man, what is up with all these random deaths these days?" the police officer from yesterday wonders aloud to her friend, "Three rich guys, a dock worker, a drug dealer, a lame magician, that publicist lady, Mr. Malone's wife, and now this pompous tailor. What's the connection??" "I know, right!?" her other police officer friend replies, "It's almost like all the scummy idiots in town are systematically executing each other for no reason in particular! That'd be pretty silly though, wouldn't it?" "Yeah, it would" the first policewoman says. "Hahaha!" they both laugh, trying to ignore the fact that the paramedic just wheeled away a shirtless dead guy. Being a cop is hard. Be nice to a police officer today. "I just want to move my god damn car so I can go to the club!" Cebastian yells at Penelope, who's guarding the crime scene, "It's not even in the way of your precious megablocking ambulance!" "I'm sorry sir, but it's your fault for parking in such a godawful space!" Penny replies back to the washed up loser, "What kind of creep goes clubbing at 9 A.M., anyway?" "By 'club', I may or may not mean a glory hole in a dirty fast food restaurant's bathroom." Cebastian replies sheepishly, hoping his admission of the truth will make Penny let him move his car. You're supposed to tell cops the truth, or something like that. Be nice to a cop, guys. Finally fed up with watching this dirty hippy with a magnifying glass inspect the crime scene, Sheriff McKenzie addresses the man. "Who the hell are you? You're not even wearing a police uniform - that's a security guard uniform." "It appears that it is my time to abscond!" the hippy replies, facing the camera. Don't break the fourth wall, jackass. In a dignified "poof", the dirty hippy disappears, leaving the crime scene. Pretty much everyone has no idea what just went down here. ~~~ The Family Tam Malone - The Malone's Godfather; husband of Adelaide, brother of Kristina and Colin. - NPC Bernard W. Malone - Retired; father of Tam, Kristina, and Colin - played by TheBoyWonder Kristina Malone - Business major; little sister of Tam and Colin. - Played by Kristel Colin Malone - Brother of Tam and Kristina - played by CorneliusMurdock Cebastian Lillium - Party "Boy"; father of Patricia, brother of Adelaide - played by Cecilie Patricia Lillium - Lovely Assistant to The Great Byron; son of Cebastian - played by Pandora The Associates Terrence Knox - The Malone family's lawyer - played by Trumpetking Peter Nuccitelli - The Malone family's accountant - played by Peanuts Priscilla Jenkins - Peter's secretary - played by Purpearljellyblob The Employees Candy Nelson - Escort - played by Captain Nemo Cap'n Rolfe - Extravagent Gentleman - played by Capt. Redblade Officer Penelope Talbott - Corrupt cop - played by Palathadric Dexter Fairbanks - Enforcer - played by def The Deceased The Cat in the Hat - NPC: Pulled out of a hat Night 1 - Cat Donny Dragonov - played by Darkdragon: Crushed by a billboard Day 1 - Malone Shane Donalds - played by Shadows: Axed in the back Night 2 - Malone The Great Byron - played by Bob: Swimming with the fishes Night 2 - Malone Jamie Neville - played by jamesn: Didn't look both ways before crossing the street Day 3 - Malone Adelaide Malone - Played by Adam: Darth Mauled Night 3 - ??? Doğukan Akbulut - Played by Dragonator: Died a stripper with a heart of satin - ??? Day Rules 1. All Night rules apply here, unless otherwise stated. 2. There will be no voting during the Day Phase. 3. After 24 hours, an interlude will be posted, where any kills that happen during the Day Phase will take place. Results of any actions performed during the Day Phase will also be reported to you privately around the same time as this interlude. 4. Stay tuned for unique opportunities during the Day Phase... Edited September 8, 2013 by Tamamono
def Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Ahh, late night zombie! I guess we can expect it daily then? I had no real read on Adelaide, but if it was a vig, I think Colin or Dogukan would have been more obvious choices. That leads me to believe it was a SK. And, by the way, let's look at the final votes: Doğukan Akbulut (Dragonator) - 9 (CorneliusMurdock, Trumpetking, def, Cecilie, Peanuts, Captain Nemo, Pandora, Capt. Redblade, Kristel) Colin Malone (CorneliusMurdock) - 2 (Chillax Darth Frodo, Dragonator) Priscilla and Penelope chose not to vote. Could you two please explain why?
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Priscilla and Penelope chose not to vote. Could you two please explain why? Weird considering that they listed three suspicions each, but couldn't bring themselves to vote...
CorneliusMurdock Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Ahh, late night zombie! I guess we can expect it daily then? I had no real read on Adelaide, but if it was a vig, I think Colin or Dogukan would have been more obvious choices. That leads me to believe it was a SK. Or it was a vigilante that knew we were already lynching Doggy (deciding not to waste our votes) and was blessed with enough good sense to realize I'm not scum.
Purpearljellyblob Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Ahh, late night zombie! I guess we can expect it daily then? I had no real read on Adelaide, but if it was a vig, I think Colin or Dogukan would have been more obvious choices. That leads me to believe it was a SK. And, by the way, let's look at the final votes: Doğukan Akbulut (Dragonator) - 9 (CorneliusMurdock, Trumpetking, def, Cecilie, Peanuts, Captain Nemo, Pandora, Capt. Redblade, Kristel) Colin Malone (CorneliusMurdock) - 2 (Chillax Darth Frodo, Dragonator) Priscilla and Penelope chose not to vote. Could you two please explain why? Sorry folks! I will be away today with no internet access (Saturday AEST). I had to be away on Saturday (AEST) for the whole day. Sorry that I forgot to vote, my vote was going to be on Dogukan along with my post. I was catching up and I realised something interesting. Seemed like someone attempted to cast suspicion on someone who was defendless at that time. I'm trying to figure out why Pricilla wrote a diatribe and then didn't vote, despite planning to be away for the rest of the day. That's not helpful. That's helpful.
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 The Days are all Mafia Movie titles, got it. What a good idea. Wish I'd thought of it...
Capt. Redblade Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 You really gotta start payin' attention more, Bernard. It seems you're about a day behind the rest of us on some pretty important stuff. So, is anyone else concerned over how Dogfoodcan knew Kristina found Shane suspicious? I think a likely explanation would include Person A talking to Dogfoodcan...both Scum? As Colin said at the end of the night, this is the whole reason we put Downward-Doğ on the chopping block in the first place. Him knowing about Shane when he probably shouldn't have is something that Kristina brought to our attention... when? Day Three, was it, Kristina? But how would he know unless Person A is also Scum??? Jeez, welcome to the party. Once Shane flipped town, pretty much all of us decided that Person A would have to be in scummy cahoots with Doğ (I ran outta puns, a'ight?) for him to have the info he did. If you look, you'll find that's pretty much my entire reasoning for putting Person A on my list of suspects. 2) Person A. I don't know who he or she is, but Kristina says they're the only other one who could've known about her being suspicious of Shane. If Shane didn't talk to Doğ-leg ... then either Person A did or Doğ is just scarily, superhumanly perceptive, which I doubt. I know Kristina doesn't like the possibility, but if we lynch Doğ and he flips scum, we'll have to look at Person A. See? I don't know if you're short on time, trying to keep track of all those split personalities of yours, but when you can, I would recommend reviewing all the stuff you missed when you were Batman's sidekick.
Cecilie Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 So the zombie killer chose to kill Adelaide. As has been mentioned, she was on my suspect list, so I'm hopeful we've nailed (with the help of an axe murdering zombie) two scum now, but I guess we'll have to wait and see... On the note of Bernard, could he be acting like he hasn't caught up on purpose, to create an illusion that he doesn't have a scum team that's bringing him up to speed?
Kristel Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Ahh, late night zombie! I guess we can expect it daily then? I had no real read on Adelaide, but if it was a vig, I think Colin or Dogukan would have been more obvious choices. That leads me to believe it was a SK. It was before "midday" on Day 3 when I said we needed to lynch Dogukan. I don't know when the vig or SK (whichever this is) decides who to target, but that statement was made a while ago now. I don't think it would have made sense to target the Dog after he was identified as the main lynch candidate. Adelaide was on my list of suspects, so a vig kill makes sense to me. As Colin said at the end of the night, this is the whole reason we put Downward-Doğ on the chopping block in the first place. Him knowing about Shane when he probably shouldn't have is something that Kristina brought to our attention... when? Day Three, was it, Kristina? See above Jeez, welcome to the party. Once Shane flipped town, pretty much all of us decided that Person A would have to be in scummy cahoots with Doğ (I ran outta puns, a'ight?) for him to have the info he did. If you look, you'll find that's pretty much my entire reasoning for putting Person A on my list of suspects. That's one of the scenarios and the most logical conclusion, but I also have reasons to believe Person A is not scum. I am not ready to share what those reasons are.
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 That's one of the scenarios and the most logical conclusion, but I also have reasons to believe Person A is not scum. I am not ready to share what those reasons are. Can you at least explain how Dogfoodcan knew you thought Shane was Scum without Person A being the one who informed him? Did you tell Shane that? Dogfoodcan and Shane may have trouble not communicating about things in private, even if it is against the rules.
Kristel Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Can you at least explain how Dogfoodcan knew you thought Shane was Scum without Person A being the one who informed him? Did you tell Shane that? Dogfoodcan and Shane may have trouble not communicating about things in private, even if it is against the rules. I told Shane and Person A that I thought he (Shane) was scum. Dogukan's accusation of me made it seem like he knew more than what had been discussed in the thread. If he did know more, it would have come from Shane or Person A.
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 I don't know if you're short on time, trying to keep track of all those split personalities of yours, but when you can, I would recommend reviewing all the stuff you missed when you were Batman's sidekick. I'm aware of everything you just told me. With that tone, though, I have half a mind to turn you over my knee. What I'm wondering is why aren't more people, besides the second most suspicious and horribly dressed person among us, wondering the same thing I am about how Dogfoodcan would know Kristina found Shane suspicious. On the note of Bernard, could he be acting like he hasn't caught up on purpose, to create an illusion that he doesn't have a scum team that's bringing him up to speed? Yes, this is a possibility. Except I'm not acting like I haven't caught up, this is a new question. I have half a mind to turn you over my knee! Can anybody think of a way Dogfoodcan would know Kristina was suspicious of Shane without Person A and Dogfoodcan talking in private? I've already mentioned that if Shane knew Kristina felt that way, it's possible Shane told Dogfoodcan himself. I did not review the days very well. Was their some other "skirmish" between Kristina and Shane as Dogfoodcan alluded to? Or was that the one sentence in question that Kristina posted. If Kristina is suspicious of Dogfoodcan because he knew she was suspicious of Shane, then there is something missing in her analysis: the quest to find out how he would know that. We all lynched him on the basis that he knew more than he should, so why isn't everybody asking how he would know. Why aren't more people suspicious of Person A or trying to get to the bottom of it.
Pandora Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 If Kristina is suspicious of Dogfoodcan because he knew she was suspicious of Shane, then there is something missing in her analysis: the quest to find out how he would know that. We all lynched him on the basis that he knew more than he should, so why isn't everybody asking how he would know. Why aren't more people suspicious of Person A or trying to get to the bottom of it. No, that's not the whole reason I personally voted for him, although others seem to think that alone was a justification. I voted for him because initially he was barely here and only posting fluff. I made a comment after I voted (I was the second one to do so) about how people seemed reluctant to vote for him when he'd been less than helpful and they were finding the current vote-receivers not that scummy. The next phase Dexter, made the suggestion that the investigator should investigate Dogbreath, because he was suspicious. Colin and Rolfe came along and said something along the lines of "oh, yeah, hey, great idea". All people who'd been berating us all over talking and lynching, suddenly just wanting to publicly want Dogbreath investigated, I won't go over how terrible an idea that is. Follow that with several scummy posts from Dogbreath, including his "I can't talk but I'm going to anyway, even if I say inconsequential stuff that could have waited", and that's why I voted for him. The whole "person A" deal had very little to do with it, but it seems to be becoming an issue, and seems to be the only reason some people voted, as if they missed all the other stuff. Anyway, let's look back: Kristina says: Our discussions so far today do seem a little inconsequential. Interesting to note, as Jamie did, that Shane's comments tonight has driven the conversation. Similarly, the discussion around policy lynching on Night 1 started with Shane's comments about there not being much to do until we get some night action results. I've noticed that our tailor hasn't been very helpful to date, and didn't even bother posting during the day. Guess he must be busy tailoring things. Calling out both Shane and Dogbreath. He posted: On the serious business, one observation I'd like to make is that I find it very strange Kristina had such a bone to pick with the late Shane, and now he turns up dead at the hands of a... zombie. That combined with her insistence on trying to frame poor me as a baddie has my feathers all in a ruffle. Since we have a majority, I'll Vote: Kristina Malone (Kristel) as someone that I think is worth keeping a close eye on. Kristina brought this up again later: I was doing my notes for the previous night, when Post 99 caught my attention, particularly this bit: This is the only time I've mentioned Shane (post 21) over the last couple of days and nights: Care to explain how this translates into "had such a bone to pick"? I've barely given him a second thought after that post. Dogbreath responded: Of course that post caught your attention madame, it was an attack against you. Naturally you have done well to try and deflect the intention behind my words by latching on to one statement and ignoring the rest, probably thinking I wouldn't be able to respond until the evening as I was instructed by our dear Don to go to bed and have a good rest. Well I say bugger that, we're finally potentially making some progress. My bone picking was in reference to that very statement actually, and Shane's response to it, quoted below. I felt it strange that you wanted to bring that up, but then never even responded to his points. With your new role claim... well it is easy enough to prove I suppose, assuming you can keep contacting people, but it seems very strange that, conveniently, you talk to Shane, then he turns up dead, then I make one post criticising you, and then suddenly I'm instructed not to talk during the day. Coincidence perhaps? Framing? I'm not really sure now, but it smells very fishy to me all in all. The conversation today is driven largely by the events we've seen thus far, I don't see that as exclusive to my comments. As for that whole policy thing, that wasn't my conversation either and I honestly found it a little off the mark. A day 1 lynch is mostly random luck, whether it's based on whatever nonsense a policy lynch is. I don't even recall hearing the term prior to this situation, but I've been out of the business for a while. My only point was the random part, not the policy part. As much as I would like to believe you are scum out to trick us though, if your role claim is true then I can see no way that could be the case. Unfortunately Shane cannot confirm your role for you, so the only other person who could at the moment is the mysterious Person A. I'd like to take this opportunity, since my eyes are drooping and our Don is probably going to slap me on the wrist soon, to say that perhaps Shane's death came from Kristina blabbing that she was in contact with him to Person A? I can't really see any other motive for killing him, but that seems likely with the new information we now have. Kristina seems a little too hot headed to be scum, and has made a potentially ridiculous role claim if it is a fabrication, so I would want to shift attention to Person A, the one that knew about Shane before he was killed. So it was Dogbreath himself who suggested Person A might be the source of all this. It's convoluted, and I appreciate its difficult to follow if you haven't been around for the entire time, but what seems to be happening is that the events surrounding this seem to change each time the story is told. It doesn't necessarily follow that person A had anything to do with Dogbreath making that comment, nor does it follow that they are more or less likely to be scum based on Dogbreath's affiliation, although that last bit I've emphasised makes me think Person A is less likely to be scum if Dogbreath is.
Captain Nemo Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Oooh I'm awake! Oooooh...more dead people. Zombies are scary, and apparently very bloody killers like a bad B movie. Personally, like I've said before, I think the Zombie kill was a vig (I first thought it was a vig or SK, but at this point, with so little day deaths, I think there's just scum and vigs), and I'm a bit surprised to see Tams wife Adelaide being the target. Though only a bit; she never seemed to talk much, and may have been trying to slide under the radar; maybe the vig thought she was a scum in hiding?
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Thank you Patricia for patiently trying to catch me up on the events. Reading back over and trying to catch up with limited time is not easy. Granted, there are only two days to catch up on, but my time is very limited and sometimes just reading it isn't as sufficient as having a discussion about it. The rest of you who rudely suggested I hadn't tried to catch myself up should be turned over my knee! And beat relentlessly with a switch. Nasty little ingrates... Patricia, I've read the back and firths, but can you tell me succinctly why Dexter is at the top of your suspicions list?
Cecilie Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 The rest of you who rudely suggested I hadn't tried to catch myself up should be turned over my knee! And beat relentlessly with a switch. Nasty little ingrates... I actually suggested you had caught up, but where pretending you hadn't And don't think you're above scrutiny just because you're old and senile Personally, I'm reserving judgement of person A for now for a few reasons: - We don't know Dogukan's allegiance yet - There were other reasons why I and others found Dogukan scummy than the whole Person A/Shane/Dogukan business, which in any case could have been caused by misunderstandings. - Person A has claimed protector, so it's wise to keep the identity hidden until there's enough suspicion to bring the person to "trial". Even though protector is easy for scum to claim, we shouldn't just throw a claimed protector under the bus too easily. Hopefully, Kristina will be able to contact more people who she can perhaps trust enough to share Person A's identity with, so that if she is killed, someone else can bring person A forward for not doing his duty in protecting her.
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 I'm not just old and senile, I'm old too!
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Peter, posting during the day is required, so you should stop lurking and say something.
Tamamono Posted September 8, 2013 Author Posted September 8, 2013 As everyone goes about their daily business, they're approached by the dirty hippy in the security guard uniform. "Hee-hoo-hee, greetings, my fellow humans!" he cackles at the family members. "My name is Harold George Arthur William Rutherford III... but if you must shorten my glorious name, simply call me Harry." At this point, everyone's pretty creeped out by Harry the Dirty Hippy. "Do not be alarmed at my appearance!" he insists, obviously picking up on the unsavory looks he's receiving from everyone, "I used to be like you - just like you all! I had a job, and a home... and dental insurance! I worked as a night security guard here in the Malone Family Hotel and Casino. However, that was before your patriarch, Tam Malone, fired me. I can't quite figure out why, either! If one of you can tell me why Tam Malone fired me, I'd be quite appreciative!" Curious about Harry's offer, the family members all lean in closer to hear the dirty hippy's story. "It all started last November. Tam was going to take a flight to Beijing, where he was going to conduct some business with... associates of his. The flight left at 8:45 P.M., and he stayed in his office in the Hotel until it was time to leave for the airport. Being the night security guard, I of course was on duty that night. However, as he attempted to leave out the front doors to go to the airport, I stopped him. You see, I had just had a dream that the plane would crash, killing everyone in it! I've been known to have prophetic dreams - even a man as practical as Tam knew that. So, taking my word for it, he decided to stay home and miss his flight. Sure enough, that night, the plane crashed, killing everyone aboard. The next morning, Tam invited me into his office and gave me a check for $100 dollars to thank me for saving his life. Then, out of nowhere, he fired me! Why was I fired?" You all have 24 hours to solve the puzzle and send it in to me. Those who get it right might receive something special... Do note, participation in this activity is not mandatory
Capt. Redblade Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Christ, I keep expecting the hippy to say, "THERE WAS A FIREFIGHT!"
TrumpetKing Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Well, a lot has happened in the short time that Tony and I went to that Harriet Slutter marathon.... Adelaide's dead, Dogfoodcan's a stripper, and the Hippie's talking to us. Adelaide and Dogfoodcan are dead, which leaves my only suspicion as Priscilla. I think an analysis might be in order, I'll collaborate something for each day/night over the course of today.
Pandora Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Patricia, I've read the back and firths, but can you tell me succinctly why Dexter is at the top of your suspicions list? I'm not sure about the succinctly bit, but I'll try... My suspicions were raised when he tried to softly manipulate the investigator into investigating Dogbreath, which seemed odd considering how keen he'd previously been for a lynch. It might have only been a minor point had two other people (Colin and Rolfe) not come along with the same hairbrained idea, also two people keen on activity and lynching. I called him out on that, he became aggressive, patronising, started twisting what I'd said to make it look like I wasn't considering anyone but Dogbreath for a lynch and tried to ridicule the reasons why I stated that asking the investigator publicly to investigate Dogbreath was a bad idea. He was still trying to make it seem like a reasonable idea despite it coming out of nowhere after being so keen to lynch and he was suggesting it for someone who'd been distinctly absent and unhelpful and who had garnered two votes the previous day. No discussion about other options, or other people to investigate with his brilliant idea. No "What do you have to say for yourself Dogbreath?" questions in the thread first. Plus he wasn't exactly pleasant about it. Over the course of our "discussion" he made a few more omissions or mistakes; minor on their own, but they added up. They're nearly all mentioned in my posts, so they exist, but we'll be here forever if I quote them all. He didn't seem to like my "niggling" and softly suggested I was leading everyone away from something (I still don't know what). There then followed Dexie voting for Dogbreath because he was "suspicious" (that's all, nothing more than we'd all be wondering). This is after wanting him investigated. Apparently two people not wanting him investigated is enough to make Dex vote instead. After that he made some vague attempt to say Colin was scummy (he is, but that's another discussion) because Colin supported Dex's stupid and scummy idea in a way that was... scummy. Add to that him making a song and dance about wanting to know Byr-Byr's alignment, omitting wanting to know about Shane's alignment, not telling us what he learned from Byr-Byr's alignment (I did ask) but getting very huffy about "what did Patricia learn from Shane's alignment?" (I replied). It's now culminated in him accusing me of posting "fluff" and not adding to the conversation. I think he's a bit upset with me. Anyway, I feel he and his scum-mates are unsure if they'd get away with killing me and shutting me up that way, so now they're trying to discredit me. Fair enough, I suppose. There's a few little things here and there I wouldn't want to point out for Dexie's benefit, though, (although I think that ^ is plenty anyway) just in case he and I find ourselves in a similar position one day.
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 My suspicions were raised when he tried to softly manipulate the investigator into investigating Dogbreath, which seemed odd considering how keen he'd previously been for a lynch. It might have only been a minor point had two other people (Colin and Rolfe) not come along with the same hairbrained idea, also two people keen on activity and lynching. Do you think the Scum would broadcast their similar intentions in such a way? They'd have to think our collective intelligence was pretty low... Um... I called him out on that, he became aggressive, patronising, started twisting what I'd said to make it look like I wasn't considering anyone but Dogbreath for a lynch and tried to ridicule the reasons why I stated that asking the investigator publicly to investigate Dogbreath was a bad idea. Sounds typical... I'm not sure if this means he's Scum or if it just means he's still breathing. Sorry... No "What do you have to say for yourself Dogbreath?" questions in the thread first. Plus he wasn't exactly pleasant about it. That's a good point, like his perspective is not in the mindset of asking such a question because he already knows. They're nearly all mentioned in my posts, so they exist, but we'll be here forever if I quote them all. He didn't seem to like my "niggling" and softly suggested I was leading everyone away from something (I still don't know what). There then followed Dexie voting for Dogbreath because he was "suspicious" (that's all, nothing more than we'd all be wondering). This is after wanting him investigated. Apparently two people not wanting him investigated is enough to make Dex vote instead. After that he made some vague attempt to say Colin was scummy (he is, but that's another discussion) because Colin supported Dex's stupid and scummy idea in a way that was... scummy. This is also typical of his Town game, though. He has a stubborn insistence on not seeing things from another's perspective. It does usually look Scummy, if he is or not, especially when his typical unpleasantness is focused on the person asking. So, I can see how he could be Scummy, but I've also found him Scummy before for similar reasons. I'm starting to lean towards Scummy in this case, because as you point out, there are inconsistencies and avoidances that are starting to add up...
Pandora Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 Do you think the Scum would broadcast their similar intentions in such a way? They'd have to think our collective intelligence was pretty low... Um... I think that initially Dex thought he could justify it to us all. I also think that he and Colin thought he'd been subtle and could argue it well enough, so somebody previously unrelated showing support (the suggestion was just left hanging) might spur the idea on. I think Rolfe came along and just stuck his boot in and made the whole thing just too obvious, and probably did so before the others could stop him. It's all speculation, but it makes sense to me. What if nobody had challenged them and the investigator had agreed? If nobody had said anything it's possible somebody might have heeded their words and outed themself as the investigator, without even clearing up whether Dogbreath was scum or not in the process, but also diverting attention from Dogbreath from the lynch today. At least Dexter and Colin should have realised that. The rest of my post is also my opinion, just like that is.
CorneliusMurdock Posted September 8, 2013 Posted September 8, 2013 I don't recall saying the investigator should out themselves. I certainly didn't expect anyone to be so stupid to out themselves just to tell us one result. That'd be like accusing someone of trying to get the vig to out themselves if they just stated that someone was scummy and should be vig-killed. No one expects the vig to say, "No, you can't tell me what to do". And no one would infer that the person saying it was trying to get the vig to go after someone the scum was already protecting. If Doggy hadn't done more scummy things that warranted his lynch, it would have been nice to have an investigation result on him later, say when an investigator was either sure of being protected or had a bunch of results to share. Now that we know that my sister can initiate private conversations, it seems like a better idea for them to wait to be contacted, assuming she can continue to contact more people throughout the game.
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