CorneliusMurdock Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Yet, this fire didn't stay ignited. Where's the talking? Where are you forcing people to talk? Tying shoelaces together *faceplants* OK, you did that one... but the others? You can find my later post from that day. I'm too tired to look it up for you. Please... If that axe-wielding, non-flesh-eating zombie is our vig, target Candy. Sluts are delicious. Or we could, you know, vote for her. Maybe the vigilante has their own ideas.
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Or we could, you know, vote for her. Maybe the vigilante has their own ideas. We should probably lynch you or Dexter...and I don't mean Terrence. I'm tired of searching for it, where does Kristina come out about her weird role?
CorneliusMurdock Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 You keep saying you want to lynch me but then you go off on these tangents about other people and actually make some sense. Can't we cultivate that?
TrumpetKing Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Pretty much "ditto" to everything that Patricia has just said. Don't waste an investigation on him - Dogukan has to be lynched tomorrow night. Dogukan isn't going to come back and explain himself because he knows that the only way he can explain that I had a bone to pick with Shane is by revealing that he is scum. Here it goes. I'm the Malone's Communications Expert, which means that I can choose people to open PM communications with. I've been talking to two people: Shane and Person A. Person A knew I was talking to Shane, but I never mentioned Person A to Shane. I did have quite a bone to pick with Shane because I was pretty sure he was scum once I had started communicating with him. But all of this happened in PMs between myself and Shane. Other than that minor poke quoted above, I never mentioned Shane or my suspicions about him here. It was mentioned to Person A via PM, so they also knew. The only way that Dogukan would know that I had a bone to pick with Shane is if either Shane or Person A told him. Since this didn't happen in-thread, it must have been via PM. Unless we have two Comms Experts (unlikely?), the only other behind the scenes communications that would be happening right now are those between the scum. Person A shall remain anonymous because I'd like to believe they are town. They have also indicated they are the protector and that they would protect me. Forgive my cynicism, Person A, but we'll see if I am still around for the start of Night 3. Here you go Bernard.
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 You keep saying you want to lynch me but then you go off on these tangents about other people and actually make some sense. Can't we cultivate that? If you take one of my leads and follow it to a Scum lynch, of course you'll be off the hook... So, now we know Dogukan was Scum, how did he know you were talking to Shane? (Because it's Draggy and Shadows and they don't think rules apply to them and they probably talked about it on Steam) But, if Shane was killed at the end of Night Two, how were you already in contact with two people? And why didn't you mention person A to Shane? Even anonymously? Have you been blocked? Killed? Why did the Scum not want Dogukan to talk during the day? What's the big deal about him. He was lazy and absent. Why target him so much?? Adelaide too... What were they doing that they would be blocked from communicating? Who all has claimed to have been talk-blocked during the day? Comms Expert...role exists on Mafiawiki. There has to be something given to us by God to counter the fact that we can't God damn communicate in private.
TrumpetKing Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 So, now we know Dogukan was Scum, how did he know you were talking to Shane? (Because it's Draggy and Shadows and they don't think rules apply to them and they probably talked about it on Steam) But, if Shane was killed at the end of Night Two, how were you already in contact with two people? And why didn't you mention person A to Shane? Even anonymously? Comms Expert...role exists on Mafiawiki. First, I'm pretty sure Dogukan was a Malone. Second, what mafia wiki are you looking at?? Ooh, Kristina has something to say.... Let's hear if she has any explanation on her role, Person A, and all of the other questions.
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 I keep calling Town Scum. I did it with Patricia too. I'm tired and old...and tired. I believe in recycling jokes. Save the humor environment.
TrumpetKing Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 *buh dum tshh* Has anybody seen Tony? Kristina probably knows where he is.
Capt. Redblade Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Capt Rolfe! Oh thou, who flyeth under the radar and was suspectethed by Patricia, who is now dead. How the heck are you? What's new? Busy night? Join the conversation. It's fun. Say something. Don't just lurk. It's weird. You're not subtle with that suit, which is blinding everyone. How's your analysis of this Gong Show coming along, oh Wise One? Have you said anything yet or did you just stop in to lurk today?? Give me some time. Sometimes you just gotta sit back and think, y'know? (I'm not kiddin'. It must've taken me at least a half-hour to doublecheck the facts and collect my thoughts here.) For instance, I notice that Kristina's been pretty consistently at the back end of the lynches, while Candy and Peter have been hovering around the middle a lot. Night Two, both voted for me, which I think somebody (can't remember who at this point) suggested might be an attempt to split the vote and keep us stuck where we were. Night Three, both vote for Working-Like-A-Doğ. Both times, their votes came pretty well in the middle, and relatively close to one another. That's the problem - I don't know who to target and I can't ask that in thread. The people I have talked to also haven't been able to help me identify the PRs. Given they are dead vanilla Malones, my guess is they didn't know either. That's why I asked if you want me to stop by your house. I haven't exactly done a stellar job so far and could use some help. But I don't want to waste this action. I don't have a limitless supply of communications devices to hand out. Dexter said he had something to incriminate me in an earlier post tonight. I see he posted this supposedly incriminating evidence above while I was busy posting myself. Kristina, everyone you've contacted is dead? Is this true, Kristina? Is everyone you've contacted dead? That would be a highly convenient cop-out for a scum: "Oh, I was talking to people and they were helping me, but they died before we could get results. Dum de doo." Looking at the list the hippy gave Terrence, it seems we have four potential scum: Kristina, Bernard, Peter, and Cebastiane. As far as I can remember, nothing that Cebastiane has said or done strikes me as particularly scummy. I think I'd be comfortable dropping him from the list. That leaves three. We have the looked-useful-but-turned-out-not-to-be Kristina, the extremely loud and foul-tempered old coot Bernard, and the fly-by-night Peter. For someone with such a useful role, Kristina sure has turned out to be a dead-end, and I have to wonder if she's not willfully withholding info (or lack thereof) specifically so she can buy herself some time to get out of the hole she's dug. We've all been leaning on her pretty heavily these last couple day-nights, hoping she can find us something to work with, and now it turns out she's uncovered less than bupkis. And are we to understand all her contacts are dead? If they are, that's mi-high-highty convenient for her. Bernard's being more helpful than I initially gave him credit for, and thus I'm less inclined to call him scum. Although this does still catch my eye: Since mine was an invention, I certainly don't mind sharing it. I checked with God and it's too late for Night Actions to change, so unless I was already blocked, they can't switch their block to me after I announced that I had it. Due to the sensitive nature of sharing info in a PM-free game, I'll hold off on what my results are. What changed, old man? I intend on giving the people who targeted Patricia plenty of time to explain themselves. Well, that's... sporting. Exactly how many people targeted Patricia in the first place? I'm eager to hear the results of this action. Peter is more difficult to analyse, seeing as he hasn't said much of anything... at all, really. He's spent much of the game... of life in that sweet spot just between quiet and active. We all know this is where the best scum like to hide out, and I'm inclined to think that's what he's doing. His behaviour is difficult to pin down because there hasn't been enough of it to make a case, but maybe that's how he likes it. Right now, I'd nominate Peter and Kristina as the two most likely scum out of the list provided by the dirty hippy, but I'll wait too see what the NA results have to say. Ooh, Kristina has something to say.... Let's hear if she has any explanation on her role, Person A, and all of the other questions. Yes, please, Kristina! Next time you say something, make sure you actually say something.
Kristel Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Hello, Kristina, you've been here for a while. Is Person A dead? What kind of Town block do you wish to form? What have you learned? Who has Person A protected? Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello??? Maybe you can give a person a couple of moments before harassing them to speak? Hey Kristina, start spilling about all the wonderful things your little alliance with Person A and your secret PM network is turning up for us back there behind the scenes. Talk, lady. It shouldn't take long to spill all the great news about all the Ferraris you're catching. Out with it. I swear, I will go to your house, drop my drawers and dump a huge stinky old man poop on your front porch if you don't start producing some Night...or Day whatever! Action results that actually freaking get us somewhere. You're old but that doesn't give you an excuse to be impolite. Kristina, you need to start producing insight into the game. Your whole story is making me twitchy. I'm not going to start making stuff up to appease you. Let's Lynch Dexter today. I'd support that. His toned changed after I revealed my role, saying how important I was, like he was sucking up to me. I thought that was scummy. Patricia also thought him pretty scummy and I trust her judgement. I could rationalize a lynch on Dexter, but its something Is have to think about. Is that because you are scum buddies? This morning, our friend the hippie gave us a riddle, offering is a reward. I was interested to see what said reward was, hoping it would be helpful, and submitted my answer. As it turns out, I was correct in telling the hippie why he was fired (he was sleeping on the job), and I was given the choice of three objects. Each one could give me some sort of advantage. I don't see any reason why I should reveal ny item, salts actually not important. Needless to say, apparently more than one person solved the puzzle as well, and picked my item, and the hippie gave me the ability to ask ONE question, which he would answer. He warned me not to be too specific, so I obviously couldn't ask if l, say, Colin or Kristina were scum, because he said he wouldn't answer. My question? How many scum claimed to he suspicious of me? I got my answer, and that there was only one scum supporting a Terrence lynch. The following people claimed to be suspicious of me: Bernard, Adelaide, Peter, Kristina, and Cebastien. We've got a scum in there, folks, and I think Kristina is the most likely one. Correction "as it's", not "salts". What evidence do you have to support this story? I would like to know what the other items are as this could verify the story. Mind you, if you're scum, you presumably shared the answer with all your scum buddies and they got the rewards as well. I would just like to point out that my claim is verifiable through PM contact. I appreciate that in itself doesn't proof I'm Malone, but anyone seriously thinking that I am scum should go back and read the threads. There was absolutely no reason for me to make this up. The only reason I claimed is because I thought I had our first scum and I had to share this, and the only way to share this was to reveal my role. I said this during the Day, if anyone cares: ... There has to be a benefit to choosing Patricia. All things being equal, they could've killed Me, Dexter, Colon or Patricia. We're all strong players and were locked in accusations against each other. They chose Patricia. Why? Odds are that at least one of the four of us is Scum and that's why the Scum didn't kill us, but maybe Patricia's list was solid and we should look closely at the people on it: Dexter, Colon and Rolfe. Who else was she suspicious of? There was a reason for killing Patricia. She noted that Jamie, she and I were pretty much saying all the same things around the time that Jamie was killed. Patricia thought that the scum must have targeted Jamie because they probably thought she might be my "Person A". I pointed out to Patricia that, by that logic, they would probably also think that Patricia might be my "Person A" and that she would then be the next scum kill. However, she thought that being so vocal in the thread would be her protection. Kristina, we want the truth. We can't win if all you do is offer to contact somebody in private. If you aren't going to reveal anything herez howre we to trusthat you're saying? Bernard could easily be one of your scummy buddies that you're using as a cover up. We need answers and we need them relatively soon. I don't know whether Bernard is Malone or scum. Patricia suggested I contact him next, but he's been an absolute dick tonight. There isn't anything to reveal. I'm getting a sense of deja vu, so forgive me if I've said this already. The people I've been talking to haven't been able to help me identify anyone with a PR. I have a list of people who I think are more townie than others. I don't particularly want to share this because I don't want the scum to kill off those that I think are most town. I'm happy to share that I think Dexter, Terrence, Rolfe and Candy are scum. Tell me what questions you want answered. Kristina, where did Dexter say he had something to reveal? Umm, that was me, not Dexter.. Sorry, I did mean you (Terrence). Colon, like reading the thread and then running off to your Scum buddies? If you sift claimed, you have a role. How has it helped us? According to my earlier equation wouldn't it have been more beneficial to the Scum to kill you as it would incriminate me and get rid if your soft claimed role? Real helpful you're being with your role. Look at all those Ferrari corpses piling up!! Love you, too, Sis. If you are on the level, it's really too bad. Have you actually made contact with anyone helpful? Anything to share that might help us after all this time? As I've indicated above, I've been in contact with Patricia and she is pretty much the only person I've felt I could trust. She thought your claim was scummy. On that soft claim, why are you still alive? If I managed to pick it up, I presume the scum did as well. I have noted, though, that you list Dexter and Candy as your suspects, who are also on my list. But you could be bussing given Dexter is looking pretty scummy at the moment. Kristina, everyone you've contacted is dead? What about Person A, the equally Scilly claimed protector? Are they dead or alive? They're probably scum, so alive, I guess. My apologies for not being clear. Person A is still alive. I was referring to the other people (Shane and Patricia) that I had contacted. Daddy-dearest: I didn't mention Person A to Shane because I thought Shane was scum. Also, I've been on PM to check details of the discussion with Patricia. I haven't contacted the next person yet. Terrence: Tony is your make believe friend, not mine. Happy to answer any questions.
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 I need to go to sleep. Sorry if I came off as a dick, I'm just trying to spur people into Action. I didn't realize it came off so harsh, but I'm old and it's my right and I'll probably continue. Just kidding. Bitches.
def Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 I'm shocked that people aren't more upset that Dogukan was Malone! This could be the end of us if we mislynch today. If there are five scum, a mislynch wins it for scum. If the vig/SK kills wrong, the scum could win. We have to sort out the truths from the lies. And Dexter seemed to immediately want to place blame on me for Patricia's death. That could just be his ego, thinking that everything revolves around him or the scum mindset of pre-emptive blame. I don't think the mere fact that Patricia died implicates him but rather his reaction to it. Doesn't surprise me you think that, since you were both Dogukan's and Patricia's top lynch target. Call me vain, but when somebody who was making an issue about me bites it, I get to thinking what it might have to do with me. Common sense. The more I think about it, the more incriminating Patricia's death is towards Dexter. Dexter, she was the only person suspicious of you. Despite the valid points, nobody really seemed to latch onto her suspicions. She's the only one who voiced concerns about you and your behavior. Her points are definitely valid, but without her watching you like a hawk, you should easily be able to slip by, Scum-tells undetected and gloss over her concerns. Definitely need to get rid of a strong, smart player who has your card. I don't know that the Scum would take her out just to incriminate you when your tiff was providing plenty of distraction. If you are both Townies, the Scum probably would've liked your tunnel vision on each other and how that could potentially be distracting the Town from finding Scum. Perhaps Patricia saw the rest of your team clearly too and you really needed to take her out. We have to ask why the Scum went for Patricia and not the other strong "pro-active" players like Colon and Dexter. You found her annoying, Dexter, another reason to want to kill her. You took her accusations personally, although they were valid points and just part of the game. Are you perhaps relying on WIFOM and we'll all assume the Scum were trying to frame you? A bit of reverse psychology? If they killed Patricia, just to implicate another player and that was the strategy they were employing, they actually had four options: 1. Kill Patricia to implicate Dexter 2. Kill Dexter to implicate Patricia 3. Kill me to implicate Colon 4. Kill Colon to implicate me There has to be a benefit to choosing Patricia. All things being equal, they could've killed Me, Dexter, Colon or Patricia. We're all strong players and were locked in accusations against each other. They chose Patricia. Why? Odds are that at least one of the four of us is Scum and that's why the Scum didn't kill us, but maybe Patricia's list was solid and we should look closely at the people on it: Dexter, Colon and Rolfe. Who else was she suspicious of? I totally don't get your logic here. Especially in light of Dogukan being a Malone. His last wish was to lynch Colin. You wanted to lynch him. Lots of others did. If he were town, there would be zero chance of scum taking him out, nor (if you were town) of them taking you out. They already had him as a guaranteed lynch, so it would be best off to leave you alone. Would killing me have put Patricia up for the lynch? Unlikely. She would have gotten away with "oopsie, I made a widdle boo boo! " So why kill her? Because we're having this conversation right now I can't think of any other kill that might have led to getting the heat off of Colin. Can you? If we're going to play an open game now, I will share my information. I'm completely fine with playing an open game now, as it seems to be ourbest bet to win, with only 11 of us left and only 4-5 scum here, and I'm willing to say 4 since there's an implied SK, so it's make it or break it. I want to know for sure we're playing an open game, and only then will I share. How about 5 or 6 votes for one? Bernard and I are for it, so that's 2 there. Who else wants an open game? I don't know that it is an implied SK. I thought so, but lots of people have disagreed. I'm trying to think of what the chances are that all of Kristina's choices have been killed (except mystery Person A). It's really unlikely, but I find it unlikely that scum would come out with a brash lie on day 2 (?)... seems too soon and without provocation. I'll wait a little more to hear what Bernard's bombshell is, and unless he has something genuinely substantial, I think I'll have to vote for Colin.
Cecilie Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Oh, whoah, ok... 3 more Malones dead. Shit. Our numbers are starting to look very bad, we need to take extra care with our lynch today. I fear we won't last long if we don't nail a scum today (tonight, or whatever, crazy day/night all mixed up ) Terrance's list is interesting, providing he's not lying about his action... Bernard, Adelaide, Peter, Kristina, and me. Yeah, I know I'm not scum, and we all know Adelaide was not. That leaves a list of three people: Bernard, Peter and Kristina. Even though Kristina hasn't been able to bring forward a lot of results, I still believe in her claim. It makes sense for us to have a communication expert when we can't communicate with each other in private, and she hasn't exactly acted very scummy. The only way I can see her being scum, is if she's not really the communications expert herself, but was lucky enough to be contacted by the real one on our first day, and has been happily shielding the real communications expert since, appearing very townie in the process. But if person A is not dead yet, and she is able to contact someone else today, there should be people able to support her story. Bernard is powering through here, and while he is acting a bit strange, I am willing to believe he is town for now. Although I have been known to be bad at reading him . That leaves Peter. I have to admit, I've almost not noticed Peter at all. He seems to be coasting easily through here. I can't really remember anything of note he has said, so that's a really good position for someone to hide in ... Yeah, out of Terrance's list, if it really is a true list, I'd pick Peter as the scum. As for the whole Patricia ordeal, what Kristina just said about why she may have been killed is interesting. It provides a different reason for her death than just who she was accusing, namely her potentially being Person A. Naturally, scum would want to take the protector out, so they can freely kill the communications expert. However, we can't discount the fact that the choice of Patricia may also have been because of who she was on to, or at least partially so. But which of Colin, Dexter and Rolfe? Or how many of them? What was her arguments against them anyway? I'll have to look back to see if anything has become more or less validated after the allegiance of Dogukan was revealed. I seem to remember there was something about them suggesting having him investigated instead of lynched? Well, that kind of hinges on Dogukan being scum. But in Dexter's case, I think it was a lot of behavioural analysis behind her accusations as well. I don't remember what she said about Colin or Rolfe, there was so much bickering with Dexter ... And then Dexter being all "well, better her than me", yeah, very townie... The question is, which is our strongest lead? It would be awesome if Bernard saw someone targeting Patricia, as he seems to be claiming, as that would be our most solid lead yet.
Purpearljellyblob Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 I forgot to respond to you, and I'm sorry for that. Frankly, yes, the post was meta, but it's not like I'm lying. I feel you're acting very similar to your last scum game, and you're reeking to me. I'm analyzing your posts and I'm starting to think you are scummy too, so it's not entirely meta anymore, if it pleases you. It's also meta, but I'm surprised that you say you don't know me, considering the last two games I played we were on scum teams together, surely you'd know me by then. I an assure you, I've gotten to know your scum behavior, and you're starting to smell of it. And is there anything wrong with meta at this stage? There isn't really anything wrong with meta ever if it leads to a successful scum catch. Oh hmmm, look at that. Your second and third paragraphs (both about me) are basically the exact same thing, phrased differently. Few points Terrence, 1. Your suspicion of me, basing off meta and knowing my scum games is a really skewed one. Have you considered my town games as well? What is the difference between my town and scum games that made you think I am scum this time? Even when I am town, people find me scummy when I am alive, so I don't see your meta-reasoning being justified. 2. This is a new situation for most of us, with no private conversations unless permitted. So your meta-reasoning of me may not be so applicable this time as well. 3. I don't like how you are so quick to defend Penelope and agree with Dexter over the issue of my non-vote; which I feel that I have sufficiently explained myself. 4. I believe I called you out on Night 3 with about 24 hours left to go, you come in 3 hours into Day 4, and said you will start analysing posts. Then in about 21 hours later, after Patricia died, you started with your analysis Day 4: #39, 18 minutes later, #40, 13 minutes later, #44, 24 minutes later, #45. It is obvious that you did you analysis about halfway into Day 4, and the time span you took to draft out 4 different posts suggest to me very much so that way. After reading all your comments, Terrence, it seemed to me that you are backtracking. I am getting the vibe that you are trying to force your suspicions onto me. Your opinion of me seemed to stem from the idea that you find me scummy based on meta; with that pre-formed judgement, you look into every post I made and try to find whatever that fits. In other words, I feel that your suspicion of me really started in Night 3 after I asked you why I am on your list. And your case from Night 1 leading up to Night 3 doesn't really show that you are suspicious of me, or how my behaviour over the course of these days/nights has led to your conclusion that I am suspicious. Maybe we should chit chat more often so that we can get to know each other better. Then maybe you can come out with better reasons to support yourself. How many scum claimed to he suspicious of me? I got my answer, and that there was only one scum supporting a Terrence lynch. The following people claimed to be suspicious of me: Bernard, Adelaide, Peter, Kristina, and Cebastien. We've got a scum in there, folks, and I think Kristina is the most likely one. That is the best lead we have so far, considering Rule #5 so you can't lie about what the hippie told you. Bernard suspects Peter, Dogukan and Terrence Peter suspects Dogukan, Rolfe and Terrence Kristina suspects Dogukan, Terrence and Adelaide Cebastien suspects Dogukan, Terrence and Adelaide If we look carefully at each individual's comments over the past few days, we get: Bernard's position on Terrence: "Terrence's posts are fluffy ramblings... " "Jamie was killed with three major suspicions: Terrence, Candy and Dogfoodcan. Were the Ferraris trying to frame one of those three and play with our minds? Or were they comfortable in their momentum and took out someone who was onto them? " "Terrence is just fluffily repeating what others have already concluded" "If I were to guess who the Scum are right now, I'd guess there were five and that they were the following:CorelinDogfoodcanTerrencePeterCandy" "Terrence, while your Priscilla story is nice, and I agree with a good portion of what you're saying, because she is different from normal and you're pointing out valid suspicions, you're only adding substance now that you've been called out for posting fluff. Although my suspicion of you does wane a little. However, I need to look more closely at what you're saying about Priscilla before taking you off of my list. You were pretty fluffy early on here." Peter's position on Terrence: "I've been thinking about this spot, and I think I'd give it to Terrence. It's not a strong suspicion (not as strong as Dogukan and Rolfe), but he's been keeping in the middle of the road; never too silent, but never too proactive." Kristina's position on Terrence: "I agree, but I think this hits the mark even more:Chillax Darth Frodo, on 05 September 2013 - 06:29 AM, said: Terrence's posts are fluffy ramblings... I was a little concerned with this alien that has taken over my Daddy's body, but he's starting to grow on me. " TrumpetKing, on 05 September 2013 - 02:28 PM, said:I interpreted that Person A had known prior to Kristina's message that she had contact with Person A.More nonsense from Terrence. "for not being helpful with his fluffy posts and the fact he's not his usual talkative self." "TrumpetKing, on 06 September 2013 - 02:38 AM, said:I'm getting a little irritated that people are just repeating what Bernard has said. Funny how I'm being called out for "copying" others, yet those who are accusing me are doing the same.You seem to have forgotten that I already called you out for being much quieter than your usual lawyer-y self. See here." Cesbastien's position on Terrence: "it's the way he just doesn't seem to be his usual active townie self. I guess I'm metagame-suspecting him ." Bernard, Peter, Kristina and Cebastien, given this new information, are you still suspicious of Terrence?
Kristel Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Just re-reading the thread, trying to decide who I should contact next, when a couple of other things caught my attention. Here you go Bernard. You call him my potential scum buddy [see post 13 tonight] but at the same time are working hard to be his buddy. Make up your mind. Looking at the list the hippy gave Terrence, it seems we have four potential scum: Kristina, Bernard, Peter, and Cebastiane. Where did Terrence say that the hippie gave him the list?
Cecilie Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 That is the best lead we have so far, considering Rule #5 so you can't lie about what the hippie told you. What do you mean he can't lie? Of course he can lie. Rule #5 just renders him impossible to quote exactly what the hippie told him. Bernard, Peter, Kristina and Cebastien, given this new information, are you still suspicious of Terrence? What new information? He was called out for contributing little and posting fluff. So he suddenly makes a case against you, and then presents this list. It's all very convenient. And now you're trying to do what exactly? Defend the person who accused you? I don't see you providing any input on who on Terrence's list you think is the most likely scum. This smells fishy to me, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the two of you are on the same scum team.
Kristel Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 That is the best lead we have so far, considering Rule #5 so you can't lie about what the hippie told you. I presume this was meant to have a sarcasm emoticon next to it or maybe this one: ? Bernard suspects Peter, Dogukan and Terrence Peter suspects Dogukan, Rolfe and Terrence Kristina suspects Dogukan, Terrence and Adelaide Cebastien suspects Dogukan, Terrence and Adelaide Why did you leave Dexter off the list? This question applies to both Priscilla and Terrence. The quote below suggests to me that def also suspected Terrence. I have to go to work. An enforcers day is never done. I'll weigh in in more detail when time opens up, but for now I can say that my three are Dogukan, Terrance and Penelope. But, the reasons I found Penelope suspicious for are drying up. I can't tell if she just took my finger-pointing as a guide on how to behave less scummy. Bernard, Peter, Kristina and Cebastien, given this new information, are you still suspicious of Terrence? I've been suspicious of Terrence for a while. You even included a link to the post where I first raise him as suspicious because he was being quieter than his normal self. I am not sure why you are asking me if I am still suspicious of him. I have been pretty much the whole time.
Purpearljellyblob Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 What do you mean he can't lie? Of course he can lie. Rule #5 just renders him impossible to quote exactly what the hippie told him. What new information? He was called out for contributing little and posting fluff. So he suddenly makes a case against you, and then presents this list. It's all very convenient. And now you're trying to do what exactly? Defend the person who accused you? I don't see you providing any input on who on Terrence's list you think is the most likely scum. This smells fishy to me, and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if the two of you are on the same scum team. Very nice conspiracy theories but you seem to ignore the fact that the hippie gave him information that could potentially nab us a scum. Can't you see I am working on it? So far we have been disgracefully unsuccessful in catching any scum. If you have better ideas on how we should go about finding scum I am open to suggestions. And you didn't even answer my question. I presume this was meant to have a sarcasm emoticon next to it or maybe this one: ? Why did you leave Dexter off the list? This question applies to both Priscilla and Terrence. The quote below suggests to me that def also suspected Terrence. I've been suspicious of Terrence for a while. You even included a link to the post where I first raise him as suspicious because he was being quieter than his normal self. I am not sure why you are asking me if I am still suspicious of him. I have been pretty much the whole time. Good point about Dexter, but why did you not raise it up before until I decided to probe further into it? You were here and even responded to his post. And with regards to why only 4 and not Dexter, I suppose Terrence is the best person to answer that, he had contact with the hippie and he should know exactly how the list came about.
def Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 So, do we even have an investigator? Kristina, did you have any contact with anyone that had a role other than protector? I'm getting the feeling, unless scum were pinpoint precise in their kills (scum roll cop?), that town was unusually weak to begin with. If I had to do my top three right now, it would be: 1. Colin 2. Terrance 3. Candy How about the rest of you?
Chillax Darth Frodo Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Bernard, Peter, Kristina and Cebastien, given this new information, are you still suspicious of Terrence? I find it interesting that you would so elaborately explain to us our own previous suspicions of Terrence, as if you've just been doing a ton of work. What a lot of fluff to say "Does this make people less suspicious of Terrence?" And what if it does or doesn't. Ping-a-ding-ding. Kristina, let me clarify. Was Patricia Person A? Sorry if you've already said. I'm in a hurry right now.
Captain Nemo Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 That's an interesting riddle to start day four with. But at least it's pointing us in the right direction, being that one of those names is a scum person. On that list of names (Bernard, Adelaide, Peter, Kristina, and Cebastien) are some people I've suspected before, along with some other less suspicious people to me. Kristina has been on my list for a bit. I know I'm most likely on the outside of the majority here, but I could never really trust her communications ability, since it seemed almost too good to be true. Plus, it also seems that for some reason whoever she talks to ends up dead--so it could be a farse and she's in some kind of scum doublecross, or perhaps this Person A is scum? We still don't know who they are. Bernard is perhaps one of the most suspicious rude people on the list; that's for sure. Though he does quite honestly come off as an aggressive jerk townie to me, I can't say much towards his scumminess. Hopefully his watcher ability saw something last day, since it seems like it's a better lead then what Kristina is giving us. On the topic of Bernard, from his earlier post, I think I'm now open (As I wasn't previously) to his "full disclosure" idea--frainkly, what we've been doing for the past few days has not gotten any scum, so we need to try a new tactic. Peter is most likely the most suspicious person to me on that list. To be quite honest I almost forgot what he looked like--I haven't seen him say anything for a while. Which is strange since I remember him being more active early on but now he's trying to slide by? And finally there's Cebastien. He has not come off as scummy to me thusfar, and actually I think he's the most town like of those on the list; so I wouldn't want to lynch him while there's other more suspicious people on my mind. -- If I had to do my top three right now, it would be: How about the rest of you? For me: 1. Kristia (On the hippie list, and everyone she contacts dies) 2. Peter (He's on the hippie list, and seems to be slidding by) 3. Dexter (While he's not on the hippie list, it may just be because he didn't say he was suspicious of Terrence. He was fighting with Patricia, who ended up dead yesterday. I think he may have killed her to shut her up. He seemed to be on the chopping block today, but I think the hippie list shiffted focus. If we don't nab the scum on the hippie list tonight, maybe Dexter will be on the block tomorrow) ----------- Kristina, let me clarify. Was Patricia Person A? Sorry if you've already said. I'm in a hurry right now. We still don't know who Person A is/was. Curse you auto-font! (In the sake of making you not squint eyes): For me: 1. Kristia (On the hippie list, and everyone she contacts dies) 2. Peter (He's on the hippie list, and seems to be slidding by) 3. Dexter (While he's not on the hippie list, it may just be because he didn't say he was suspicious of Terrence. He was fighting with Patricia, who ended up dead yesterday. I think he may have killed her to shut her up. He seemed to be on the chopping block today, but I think the hippie list shiffted focus. If we don't nab the scum on the hippie list tonight, maybe Dexter will be on the block tomorrow) ----------- We still don't know who Person A is/was.
Cecilie Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Very nice conspiracy theories but you seem to ignore the fact that the hippie gave him information that could potentially nab us a scum. Can't you see I am working on it? So far we have been disgracefully unsuccessful in catching any scum. If you have better ideas on how we should go about finding scum I am open to suggestions. And you didn't even answer my question. Conspiracy theories is my speciality And no, I can't see what you're working on, and I haven't ignored anything. Did you miss my earlier post where I actually outlined my opinion on the people on Terrance's list? Whether or not those are still suspicious of Terrance is irrelevant to the point, which is that he claims one of them is scum based on information the hippie has given him, which we only have his word for. So, either he's speaking the truth, and one of those people is scum (see my earlier post with opinions on those) Or, he's scum and is lying about the whole thing to appear helpful. I've already said this several times. How is that not an answer to your question? I'm still suspicious of him, because there's no evidence that he's telling the truth, even though it would help us greatly if he was. But I'm willing to leave him be for now, and look into the information his list gives us. And I see Kristina has pointed out that Dexter should have been on Terrance's list. Maybe Dexter is the scum we're looking for on that list then. Terrance, any reason why you left Dexter out?
CorneliusMurdock Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Dexter, what exactly have you done that would make the scum want to try to frame you specifically? I'm not worried about today, I'll survive. I have no reason to place any blame on you and people will realize that later. It's possible that Terrence is only telling half the truth. He does know that there could be someone out there who can confirm what the hippy could give. He could be using it as an opportunity to cause some confusion. I guess I think it's very possible that there could be a scum on that list, but I'm not sure how much we can rely on Terrance not being scum himself.
TrumpetKing Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 Why should Dexter be on the list? I asked how many scum listed me as their top three suspicions. I realize that I forgot to say that at first, but it should have been clear when I listed the five who listed me in those positions. Kristina, how does that verify the riddle? It only works if someone else solved the riddle and is willing to confirm anything too. But if you insist... Hardhat: Essentially a one-shot protector. Sheriff's badge: One extra vote during the day. Crystal ball: Watches themselves, can find out which actions, without the people preforming them, targeted them. I'm in a rush, I'll finish adressing Kristina and Priscilla when I get back, which won't be for a while..
def Posted September 10, 2013 Posted September 10, 2013 That's an interesting riddle to start day four with. But at least it's pointing us in the right direction, being that one of those names is a scum person. On that list of names (Bernard, Adelaide, Peter, Kristina, and Cebastien) are some people I've suspected before, along with some other less suspicious people to me. Kristina has been on my list for a bit. I know I'm most likely on the outside of the majority here, but I could never really trust her communications ability, since it seemed almost too good to be true. Plus, it also seems that for some reason whoever she talks to ends up dead--so it could be a farse and she's in some kind of scum doublecross, or perhaps this Person A is scum? We still don't know who they are. Bernard is perhaps one of the most suspicious rude people on the list; that's for sure. Though he does quite honestly come off as an aggressive jerk townie to me, I can't say much towards his scumminess. Hopefully his watcher ability saw something last day, since it seems like it's a better lead then what Kristina is giving us. On the topic of Bernard, from his earlier post, I think I'm now open (As I wasn't previously) to his "full disclosure" idea--frainkly, what we've been doing for the past few days has not gotten any scum, so we need to try a new tactic. Peter is most likely the most suspicious person to me on that list. To be quite honest I almost forgot what he looked like--I haven't seen him say anything for a while. Which is strange since I remember him being more active early on but now he's trying to slide by? And finally there's Cebastien. He has not come off as scummy to me thusfar, and actually I think he's the most town like of those on the list; so I wouldn't want to lynch him while there's other more suspicious people on my mind. -- For me: 1. Kristia (On the hippie list, and everyone she contacts dies) 2. Peter (He's on the hippie list, and seems to be slidding by) 3. Dexter (While he's not on the hippie list, it may just be because he didn't say he was suspicious of Terrence. He was fighting with Patricia, who ended up dead yesterday. I think he may have killed her to shut her up. He seemed to be on the chopping block today, but I think the hippie list shiffted focus. If we don't nab the scum on the hippie list tonight, maybe Dexter will be on the block tomorrow) ----------- We still don't know who Person A is/was. Curse you auto-font! (In the sake of making you not squint eyes): For me: 1. Kristia (On the hippie list, and everyone she contacts dies) 2. Peter (He's on the hippie list, and seems to be slidding by) 3. Dexter (While he's not on the hippie list, it may just be because he didn't say he was suspicious of Terrence. He was fighting with Patricia, who ended up dead yesterday. I think he may have killed her to shut her up. He seemed to be on the chopping block today, but I think the hippie list shiffted focus. If we don't nab the scum on the hippie list tonight, maybe Dexter will be on the block tomorrow) ----------- We still don't know who Person A is/was. I think someone has a stutter, or is it a case of scumboard copy error? And I see Kristina has pointed out that Dexter should have been on Terrance's list. Maybe Dexter is the scum we're looking for on that list then. Terrance, any reason why you left Dexter out? I most certainly am not, but it could be a very subtle way for Terrance to get my name stirred into things. Is Terrence smart enough to do that? Dexter, what exactly have you done that would make the scum want to try to frame you specifically? I never said I was framed. But I respect you scummily trying to put words in my mouth By 'respect', I mean the way I respect a hyena that chews on carrion. It does as it must. Allow me to defer to the Dexter of a few hours back: I can't think of any other kill that might have led to getting the heat off of Colin. Can you?
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