Hero Factory 2014 Discussion

[Kalhiki]

Alright. Here we go.

Evo Walker: Definitely the worst out of them all. Very small. Very simplistic. However, the legs give it some possibilities. With the ball cup open, you could easily attach it to another figure as some sort of mounted cannon. Maybe this is where they were going with it?

Evo XL Machine: Creative build, I'll give it that. However, from what I can see of the legs, they look atrocious. The pelvis too. But it is supposed to be a huge mech, so I guess gappy-ness can be excused (still looks bad, though). Also, minifig Evo's helmet in this set looks like Rocka's. Perhaps it's just a mistake because it's a preliminary picture.

Breez vs Flyer Beast: Looks great, honestly. Loving the new head design. I find it cool that he also wields what appears to be some sort of antenna. Like he broke it off of a building to use as a weapon. I also noticed he uses new foot pieces which I believe are on the Ningago Mech Dragon. Along with some technic pieces on the feet which may or may not be part of the mold. Don't think so, though.

Furno Jet Machine: Looks great. Not much else to say.

Stormer vs Jaw Beast: Not too impressive. But purple and trans bones are more than welcome. Alongside new claw feet. Seem to be more Hero Factory-ized Piraka feet. Those claws on the hands also look pretty useful.

Rocka Stealth Machine: Another great mech alongside Furno's. My only real complaint is that the claw looks a little cobbled together. Otherwise, pretty cool. I like the bulky upper half look he's go going.

Furno and Evo vs Splitter Beast: Pure awesomeness. Huge, two headed monsters are always cool. Something to note with this one: It looks as if he has two sets on arms. Two "normal" ones and two spike ones (like Jaw Beast). That alongside what appears to be something wrapping around his chest and his two heads makes me think that he actually does split. Calling it now. (EDIT: shoot, VBBN beat me to it)

Oh. And street lamp. Most fearsome weapon in the galaxy.

Stormer Freeze Machine: These Machines seem to be the stars of these sets as this one is awesome as well.

Other side notes: Seems like I may be right in thinking the small spider critters are babies and the beasts are more matured versions. Also, has anyone looked at the bag top? Those graphics are amazing! Hope that's how they look in the show.

Edited October 28, 2013 by Kalhiki

[Gatanui]

Other side notes: Seems like I may be right in thinking the small spider critters are babies and the beasts are more matured versions. Also, has anyone looked at the bag top? Those graphics are amazing! Hope that's how they look in the show.

I hope not. Honestly I don't see what's amazing about it. It's just concept art.

-Gata

[Front]

Had a look at all the packaging today, very beatiful. I think these will look atractive to most kids. And the build of the sets (the contents) are very clear from the front side graphics.

[Shakar]

I love everything. That big, Confidential watermark is a great design, and the way it falls across all the potentially interesting parts of the builds and stops us from actually being able to see much of anything is brilliant construction.

So basically, these are small photos that don't even show off the construction or even real LOOK of the sets, and you can't even really see the minifgs' and their parts, and everything is obscured so I don't understand how anyone can say anything but "yep, those look like they're made with HF parts for sure."

I generally agree with this. The quality of pictures is the most disappointing thing of all. At this time, I excepted finalized pictures. Not only is the watermark huge, the sets don't even look real- they look CG, in fact.

So, really hard to judge these and I eagerly await better pictures, but for now I can say a few things (the more I look at the pics, the more things I get):

HERO MACHINES (individual impressions):

Evo Walker: my least favourite one, I think. It's good it has a cockpit and a plasma gun, but I really don't like the legs. Overall...eh, no point in buying it. But I saw that coming anyway. Wait, are those yellow 5M shells?!

Evo XL M. : tr. neon green huh? Unexpected, but doesn't look bad. I don't like the cannon, I would've preferred a plasma gun but the return of the ammo belt is good. The flick missile launcher looks good. Not sure about the legs. I hope the secondary colour is titanium metallic, because Stormer XL feet and paws in that colour would be GOOD.

Furno Jet M. : somewhat disappointing. The Jawblade blades are a cute homage, but without hands they make the arms look weak. I don't like the legs, they're short and I don't like when the upper cladding pieces are bigger than the lower ones. The jetpack looks cool (I hope the Pyrox flames are in a new colour).

Rocka Stealth M. : this one looks better. Not enough gold, otherwise the colour scheme is good. More plasma guns, yes. The only things I don't like are the right hand (they couldn't have used a paw, right? Oh well) and the upside down shoulder armour (not a pieces issue, though). It's an overall good figure I guess, but it's somewhat plain.

Stormer Freeze Machine: probably my favourite one. Once again, the paw is a good idea, so are the feet used. I see a printed piece, and that's good. The weapon is creative and looks good- once again, I hope the Pyrox flames aren't recycled (from BA Stormer this time) and are actually tr. blue. Finally, I love the use of Bulk 3.0 claw mounts- I use them all the time as armour so it's nice they get recognition.

BEASTS (individual impressions):

Jaw Beast: much cooler than Scarox and Aquagon, although still a standard humanoid (and therefore less original than the 2012 9 Euro villains). This one is the one where azure looks best (I'll get to that in the general section). Nice set overall, if only slightly plain.

Flyer Beast: as excepted, the Batman wings suck- sorry, but they do. Zero effort to improve a design that had to be improved. At 15 Euro, I except a wing design as complex as Razar's/Eris's, especially since the rest of the model looks rather simple. One more thing I don't like is the 2.0 torso plate, AGAIN. Breakout armour, does Lego hate you or something? I'm tired of the 2.0 armour, it looks fat and plain. That's one weird weapon FB is using. I know I'm criticizing a lot of things, but I do like the set overall. FB is one of those good concepts, which is limited by some questionable design choices that can be fixed fairly easily.

Splitter Beast: oh man, this guy (ehm, guys?) looks really cool. Looks his..non-azure colour isn't red but tr. reddish orange (much better, and more original as well). I don't think he's wielding a scythe or any weapon- that's just the first section/blade of his right wing. It's weird that on the top part of the bag Furno alone is fighting a beast with only the tr. orange head- maybe Splitter Beast does really split? VBBN beat me to it, ah well. I now understand the purpose of the limb pieces though. Anyways, no complaints here, this is an awesome figure.

And now for some general impressions:

MACHINES: I like they're keeping a coherent aesthetic among them, which overall brings home the fact they aren't just some cockpits with limbs of Heroes, but machines without personality with a distinct look. This goes both for the colour schemes (little room for accent colours, mostly main colour+metallic colour) and some cool design choices (Stormer XL feet and SP paws). I have no idea on what the transparent backpacks are, but they look pretty cool. No idea of what to think about the cockpits, I have no clue how are they built. I'm somewhat disappointed by the weapons, I hoped for more melee stuff (especially since 2013 gave use 2 very cool blade pieces) and most weapons they got look kind of bad.

BEASTS: overall these 3 guys look very cool. Like the machines, they share a number of elements in common, from the colour schemes (black+azure+main colour) to the pieces (those awesome new feet we saw in the new Ninjago Mecha Dragon, and the ones I'm talking about next). It seems they all have a spiky tail piece on the back but I'm not sure. And they all have the same type of rhino-like head (probably the same piece, even), presumably featuring working jaws. Printed eyes aren't very cool..but it's better than having them replaced by those of alien mutant slugs (ha, burn!). I don't get why they all feature azure, though: it looks great on Jaw B., it's pretty good on Splitter B. too (though this way he slightly feels like a Thornraxx rehash), Flyer B. is the one it looks least good on to me. Overall it's a very weird choice, it feels almost random and I doubt it's going to get a story justification. Overall, Corydoras was right, these guys are indeed much better than the 2013 Villains, and they do look very menacing.

MINIFIGS: first off the simple ones, the spider minions. These look much cooler than I thought actually. Now I am SURE they're related to their..big brothers, as they have the same rhino head. And now the Heroes: these blow the Bionicle minifigs out of the water. With the full poseability of a regular minifig, plus their close likeness to their big incarnations, these are a success I think.

I'm generally happy with these. I'll get all Villains and Stormer Freeze M., I'll skip Evo Walker, not sure about the other 3 sets. Overall, 8/10.

Edited October 28, 2013 by Shakar

[Infernum]

Those minifigs...

I think I see how Splitter splits! Looks to me like the spikes over his shoulder are actually wings for one, as well as the legs/arms that wrap around the torso. The tail probably belongs to this one too. The other looks like a cool humanoid figure. I wish the Trans. orange figure was the humanoid (because of the claws) but it looks like it is the flying one.

[ZORK64]

Finally, pictures!

To be honest, I wasn't really in the mood to read all the descriptions of the sets beforehand (partly because I was lazy, partly because descriptions of certain pieces are still somewhat abstract to me if I don't have a visual on it). I only got the overall theme of the upcoming wave - minifigure-sized heroes fighting regular-sized monsters. And let me start my post with sharing my thoughts on that particular concept.

I'm still somewhat critical about it, simply because I enjoy the constraction sets for building robotic characters rather than mechs. While mechs are with no doubt pretty cool, I'm honestly a bit sad about this new direction - but only from a very personal view, because on the other hand, the mech idea opens up a whole slew of new possibilites for the constraction system.

But still, I'm right now not completely convinced on Invasion from below, and those prototype prelims aren't enough to change that yet.

The minifigure heroes are nice, though only time will tell how much I really will love these little guys. The headcrab thingies however don't appeal to me so far - unless it turns out they can be pegged on armour shells, because I think they would make great armour for constraction figures.

Now to the sets themselves:

Evo Walker - It's a three-legged robot, right? Anyway, I don't like it's lack of feet.

Evo XL Machine - Hmmm... there are many things that remind me of similiar sets of the past (Gorzan's Gorilla set comes to mind). It looks interesting, to say the least.

Flyer Beast vs Breez - That head looks promising. Also, possibly new feet?

Furno Jet Machine - Basically a mech-version of Breakout Furno. It looks to blocky for a "Jet" machine, I don't like it.

Jaw Beast vs. Stormer - What are those claws? What's Jaw Beast's head like? Anyway, AZURE PARTS YES!

Rocka Stealth Machine - Somewhere between the two versions of Evo. Okay-ish, I think.

Splitter Beast vs. Furno and Evo - Two-headed monster with funky colours, two hero figures, a hilarious packaging art where the heroes span a chain so the big bad monster trips... all these things make this set the most interesting to me so far.

Stormer Freeze Machine - I don't know yet. I can't really tell what's going on on this picture. The giant thing on the right shoulder looks cool (pun not intended).

All in all, I'm looking forward to many of the new pieces and recolours that are shown here. The mech-theme doesn't appeal to me, but the parts do, and that's always the most important thing for me anyway.

Edited October 30, 2013 by ZORK64

[Aethersprite]

Now that I've time to let the images sink in, this is my opinion of the sets:

Evo Walker: Unfortunately, the skeletal nature of the HF bones make the legs of the walker very unpleasant to the eye. Or mine, at least. This set is a definite skip, especially if I'm getting the Evo XL mech.

Rocka Stealth Machine: Pass. The claw hand looks weird, and while I love the Breakout launcher, I'm getting quite tired of seeing it in sets. Nothing special about this one.

Furno Jet Machine: Looks like I'll be getting this, easily the best of the mechs. The arms look a little too short though, but nothing modding can't fix.

Stormer Freeze Machine: Set looks okay, but the paw arm looks weird on a mech. Don't think I'll be getting this.

Evo XL Machine: Looks like we're going back to the old style of HF titans, but the legs on this one look like a mess. Probably a pass.

Jaw Beast: Plain and simple design, but the colours of the pieces more than make up for it. Might get this one.

Flyer Beast: Lame Batman wings and a generic build. Unlike Jaw Beast, yellow is already a pretty common colour. Pass.

Splitter Beast: Can't see much of what's going on in the picture, but just by glancing, this looks to be the best set of the wave. At least we're getting something new out of the build compared to the other 2 villains, if what VBBN says is true. Definite buy.

Overall, an interesting but lackluster wave. There's no one particular set that stands out for me. The mechs are a cool idea (in fact, I'm probably buying them for the novelty that they're HF mechs and I love mechs) but the execution isn't that good. The beasts use too much black, and have mostly generic designs, but their awesome heads and colours more than make up for it.

As for the minifigs and bugs, well, I've never cared much for minifigs anyway. But I'm glad Lego made the step to create these HF minifigs. Minifigs are pretty popular nowadays, especially with kids. Hopefully these sets help to elevate HF's popularity.

This is just my first impression, I'll judge again when we get finalized pictures.

[vexorian]

So, it was hard for me to notice (mostly blame the watermarks), but Evo Walker confirms it when zoomed in: the mechs have canopies.

Flyer Beast vs Breez - That head looks promising. Also, possibly new feet?

Yes, same piece as the NinjaGo technodragon's feet.

Edited October 28, 2013 by vexorian

[Aanchir]

Why is everyone talking about Jaw Beast having transparent bones? As far as I can tell, his bones are just Dark Stone Grey and Medium Azur, same as Thornraxx.

I don't see what the issue with Evo Walker is either. It's not remarkably large or impressive, but we wouldn't expect that of a set that size to begin with. Is it necessarily what everyone would think when they hear the name? Of course not. But that doesn't mean the set itself is lackluster. It's a pretty clever-looking walking turret.

And we don't know for sure that Splitter Beast actually splits. Note that the illustration on the top of that package is just a palette swap of the one on Breez vs. Flyer Beast, and the one for Evo Walker is just a palette swap of the one on every other package. Let's not forget that "preliminary" doesn't just mean a poor-quality render of the actual final package. Some things, like the art at the top, presumably ARE going to change slightly before release.

And as I mentioned in my previous post, all the mechs use the LEGO City helicopter windscreen, though Evo Walker does seem to confirm it's attached to a new "cab" element that holds the minifigure. It's also visible in the pic of Stormer Freeze Machine.

Edited October 28, 2013 by Aanchir

[davidr]

Half Life 2 meets Pacific Rim?

Hero Factory 2014 is secretly Half Life 3!!

[Jetrax99]

Why is everyone talking about Jaw Beast having transparent bones? As far as I can tell, his bones are just Dark Stone Grey and Medium Azur, same as Thornraxx.

Did you listen to the video Meso posted at all? If you did, you would know why.

[Mesonak]

Did you listen to the video Meso posted at all? If you did, you would know why.

Doubtful; not everybody has the time to listen to a 40 minute long discussion over prelim set pictures. Still, I'm glad that you did. :P

Basically, the reasoning behind the theory is that when comparing Jaw Beast's lower leg pieces to the socket joints on his hand, it almost looks transparent. It's a similar case on Evo Walker, where the yellow armor on the right leg looks like it could be transparent when compared to the armor on the left leg.

...Of course, there are a number of problems with this, the most important of which being that these are early 3D renders of prototype sets and it's probably just a trick of the light. However, based on Front's comments a while ago, I'd like to think there will be transparent bones. :P

Edited October 28, 2013 by Mesonak

[Kalhiki]

I hope not. Honestly I don't see what's amazing about it. It's just concept art.

-Gata

The beasts. The beasts look great. Splitter and Flyer Beast's look particularly nice with the Hero jumping into action. I just like 'em.

Also, did anyone else notice that the Heroes (or some of them) have the Alien Conquest ADU gun? Y'now, the double-barrel pistol? Nice of them to include weapons for the minifig Heroes.

EDIT: Didn't even notice the Heroes had weapons. So not only are there ADU guns but also a saw and wrench among others. But what I said still stands; nice of them to give the minifig Heroes weapons.

Edited October 28, 2013 by Kalhiki

[BrickBuilder3213]

It's time for moi to post my own thoughts on these sets:

Evo Walker- Even if it's a £8/€10 set, I feel that this is the worst of the sets. Everything is okay up to the legs. Apart from them, this is okay. It won't be one of the first sets that I'll be getting from this wave.

Evo XL Machine- Another set that I don't plan on getting right away. I agree that the legs are a mess and that trans-green doesn't really fit into the colour scheme. I do like the shoulder-mounted flick missles and the bulk of the mech, however.

Stormer VS Jaw Beast- A must-buy. I love the colour scheme of Jaw Beast and the new parts that he comes with. Also, this is a fairly cheap way to get Stormer if you just want to try and get all of the heroes before getting doubles or triples of them.

Furno Jet Machine- Ah, how I've missed Breakout Furno's colour scheme. The mech looks great and I wouldn't mind getting this after I've got all of the villains and the next mech in this list...

Rocka Stealth Machine- Rocka's only set this year (thank God) looks pretty good! I like the fact that this mech uses a trans-orange window, rather than a trans-green window.

Breez VS Flyer Beast- Another must-buy! Flyer Beast has a very nice design and a great colour scheme to go with it! I really like the fact that this monster uses a radio tower as a weapon in order to fight off Breez.

Furno and Evo VS Splitter Beast- This will be the set that I'll get and build first. Seeing as you get two minifigures and (apparently) two monsters in this set, this is a great set in terms of what you're getting for your money! The weapon is a bit weird and I can see where the whole "Splitter" gimmick comes from.

Stormer Freeze Machine- Yet another great mech, possibly the best of them all. The weapon is a tad weird to me in terms of how it's designed, but it's not too bad.

Overall, I'll be getting at least half of these sets when they come out. They look really good, despite not being the final products that'll be sold in stores before Christmas. (I hope!) :D

[ColdPrime]

Wait a minute...

Where's the game points ? This wave will not get a game ?

Edited October 29, 2013 by ColdPrime

[ToaJaller78]

EVO Walker: It looks ok. I like the "Walker Feel"

EVO XL Machine: Pass. And- IS THAT ROCKA?!

Stormer vs. Jaw Beast: Lots of nice parts. Hard to see the head behind the new Watermark piece.

Furno Jet machine: Looks like his Breakout form as a mech. Cool.

Rocka stealth machine: Same as Furno. Buy for me.

Stormer freezer machine: Ok. Pass. It looks like a mess

Flyer Beast vs. Breez: Kewl. Breez looks like her BO Form. I dig it.

Furno and Evo vs. Splitter beast: Weird. Corydoras said it looked diff. Does'nt. Pass.

Looks cool.

[Kalhiki]

Unless Evo XL changes drastically between now and his release, I'm not getting him. Judging by the looks of things, he doesn't even have ankle articulation which is a huge downside.

Plus, the set is kind of pointless since you can get Evo in two other sets, one of which already giving him a mech.

[ToaJaller78]

Unless Evo XL changes drastically between now and his release, I'm not getting him. Judging by the looks of things, he doesn't even have ankle articulation which is a huge downside.

Plus, the set is kind of pointless since you can get Evo in two other sets, one of which already giving him a mech.

..............No.............Ankle...............Articulation...............

Meh, It's a pass anyway.

[VBBN]

Evo Walker: When I first saw this, I really didn't think "walker" I thought tripod turret. And unless they completely redo this thing, that's all it's ever going to be. What's clear to me is two yellow legs providing two points of articulation, a gray one in the back, a mounted plasma shooter, a few lights mounted on the armor shells, and a cockpit that's going to be pretty damn empty on the sides, or leave his legs exposed. (A better question is, why is it open in the first place? Not very good protection there...) The set itself looks to be rather boring; Sure it's a change of pace from standard builds, but did we really need an entire extra set for this? I would have preferred that they gave evo XL an option to deploy a turret similar to this. If evo xl turns out to be a decent set, I can't see many people getting this other than for parts of the minifigure (which is already in two other sets as it is) The one good thing I can see here is that the set has 3 spiders. If they turn out to be really cool little things, this might be a great way to obtain a decent amount of them.

Now let's keep a tally: 1 green spider, 1 red, 1 orange, 1 evo.

Evo XL: The massive confidential logo is a really great addition to the set. mainly because it hides the set itself. Though it's difficult to see what's going on here, what I can see, I don't like. Firstly, the biggest gripe that I will never forgive this set for is the color scheme. Trans green? Seriously? Is it going to kill you do give us trans dark blue? Or even trans neon orange I don't care, just enough with this trans green. My main issue with it is that the set is unforgivably similar to something Rocka would use. The trans green, and yellow being so close to gold, it's just not a good combo. With that said, Evo can fly now, as you can see by his completely dangling legs. Next, the big green tank on his back; I'm standing behind my idea that this is used as a capturing device for the spiders, and it'll probably be best on this figure do to the figures size. (I'm really worried that it's going to stick out like crazy on the back though regardless.) Flick fire missiles look okay, and I do like the "spotlight" they gave him.

Tally: 1 red spider, 1 orange, 1 evo

Breez and Flyerbeast: Breez herself looks good, at least based on the tiny headsculpt you can make out. Flyerbeast isn't the best; With wings like those, this guy is staying grounded. Colors are okay, not liking how much yellow there is this wave. That weapon..I really hope they make a more convincing radio tower weapon, because as it is right now, that looks absolutely terrible. What is in his other hand, though? A huge claw or another piece of the antenna?

Tally: 1 breez

Furno Jet Machine: Very similar to breakout furno with those turbine pieces. The torso and upper back look great; My complaint is those arms. The entire lower arms is just a standard furno flamepiece. Also there seems to be a codpiece, a nice detail and I'm guessing that is where furno's feet go.

Tally: 1 green spider, 1 furno

Stormer and Jawbeast: I think it's obvious a lot of people want this because of it's colors, and I do agree that having azure and purple is a great combination. The set looks fairly simple due to the price point, but I'm actually really liking it. The feet pieces look quite cool, and the new "claw" is going to be interesting for MOCing. Not much to say other than that, I

ll be picking this one up for sure.

tally: 1 stormer

Rocka Stealth machine: Well...Rocka GoldBling and Thundersteps the Mech. Dubbing that the name of this right now. Honestly this is not stealthy looking, I'm going to guess he has some "super special stealth coating" that makes him quiet so spider can't see him until his golden armor is dancing in the sunlight to invite the spiders to a Rocka disco party.

Ahem.

I actually like this guy. It's a really nice mech design, being bulky and not over complicating things. I can see a four clawed hand, presumably for catching the spiders and putting them in the tank on his back. Now one thing that I will be doing, is swapping out that trans green plastic I've never really liked gold with that plastic. I'll most likely grab a second stormer, and swap out the tank and cockpit for trans light blue, then use the claws from ice beast to replace that hand.

tally: 1 Rocka, 1 red spider

Splitter Beast: I'm still standing strong to my idea that this is two beasts. His name is splitter He splits. If he was a two headed figure, he would simply be Split beast or "the two headed beast of the Caribbean. Ahoy heroes I be bitin' yer booty" And you can clearly see bent limbs on the lower right hand side of his torso, a claw piece up on his left side. In the picture on the top, you can see that the orange beast has a Y shaped hand of sorts, like the "wings" on splitter beast. So the ehad is closest to those, being the hands. Then you can clearly see the a claw on that torso on the right. Here, I even cropped and zoomed the photo; http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5491/10555921325_bac4068b26_o.png Just like the orange figure's feet in the photo. I don't think there is any doubt this thing splits.

Other than that, the set looks nice.

tally: 1 evo, 1 furno

Stormer: The best for last. This guy looks great, I'm always a huge fan of that color scheme and the design is really quite cool. The "chicken leg" mech leg design looks really fitting, and the set looks to support the spider cage fairly well. Out of all of the mechs, this one also has the most solid lower torso design, underneath the cockpit. other than that, there isn't much to complain about here from what I can see at the moment.

tally: 1 red spider, 1 orange, 1 stormer

So for the tally's,

______

2 green spiders, 4 red spiders, 3 orange spiders, 3 evos, 2 furnos, 2 stormers, 1 breez, 1 rocka

I'm hoping they do something similar to what they did with the brains, where we have red orange and green the first wave, then see shades of blue, maybe purple in the next wave.

We also only have 5 of the heros, I'm really hoping that they don't duplicate any in the next wave (I'm going to die if we get ANOTHER evo) so that we can get the rest of the heroes. If this is a one shot deal with the minifigures, I want as many heroes as possible.

[MakutaNocturn]

Wait a minute...

Where's the game points ? This wave will not get a game ?

I wish we will get a real PC game.

[Kalmahiczek]

I wish we will get a real PC game.

I hope!

[dviddy]

Is it seriously necessary for every single person to write mini essays on each and every set image when they aren't even super clear? You all end up saying the same things over and over.

[wghost]

Is it seriously necessary for every single person to write mini essays on each and every set image when they aren't even super clear? You all end up saying the same things over and over.

My thoughts exactly. It's really nice to read everyone discussing sets from various aspects but without having proper images it's somewhat... pointless.

[Mesonak]

I don't really understand all the fuss over the watermarks, Like okay, yeah they're there, and maybe it's just me, but I can see the sets decently fine with them present. Maybe I've just gotten used to it.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say these watermarks don't really obscur much at all except for internal construction and, let's be real, you can rarely see internal construction in packaging photos anyway. They block stuff out, sure, but it's nothing that can't be easily guessed otherwise. With half of the sets the only thing obscured is the torso. :P

The only two things that I'd say the watermarks really block me from seeing clearly are Jaw Beast's arms and Splitter Beast's whole torso construction. That's about it

HOWEVER... yes, I'll agree all the different opinion posts are becoming repetitive. However, that always happens; it's part of the charm of the constraction community, if I do say so myself. :P

Edited October 29, 2013 by Mesonak

[VBBN]

I can't think of a year where we didn't analyze sets like this and I don't intend on it changing anytime soon. In about 2 days it's going to wind down and just be arguing about some aspect of the designs that someone noticed once more, that's how it goes.

However, that always happens; it's part of the charm of the constraction community, if I do say so myself. :P

And that's why we are the best subform on Eurobricks