DuckBricks Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 The "adopted" bit wouldn't change his last name though, so it doesn't really work as an explanation for what the writers said. I think people assumed the adopted bit because the writers may have been alluding to the fact that Jay's REAL last name isn't Walker... Quote
Mandate Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 So it was speculated earlier on Nadahkhan's genie-state allowing him to turn the ninja's greatest wishes against them. I can't remember exactly what the purpose of the Djinn blades is, some have said capturing elemental power, others say the ninja's souls. If the latter is true, what if Nadahkhan's method of capturing the ninja is by luring them into the Djinn blades with their heart's desires? For Jay, it might be Nya, for Cole it could be becoming human again (with a genie on the loose, he could very well), and maybe for Wu it would be Garmadon returning. Haven't thought too hard about it, but what do you guys think? Quote
bricksfan Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Zane´s will be to have his father back, and I´m pretty sure that having Garmadon back will be Lloyd´s wish. Kai´s will be Skylor, since she will make a return. Wu´s could be to have Misako, although that wouldn´t fit with his personality. I think that Nadahkhan will ask the ninja for something when they make their wishes, and those will be their powers. So, he will keep the in djinn blades to use against the ninja. But... Why do the ninja have djinn blades for their use? Shouldn´t that be Nadahkhan? Quote
DraikNova Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 I think people assumed the adopted bit because the writers may have been alluding to the fact that Jay's REAL last name isn't Walker... That still wouldn't change his real last name, because the last name of his adoptive parents is his real one. That's part of adoption. A little off-topic, but it really annoys me when people act like adoptive parents are less important than biological ones. Quote
DuckBricks Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 That still wouldn't change his real last name, because the last name of his adoptive parents is his real one. That's part of adoption. A little off-topic, but it really annoys me when people act like adoptive parents are less important than biological ones. Sorry, that wasn't what I meant. Sorry if I offended you. I understand that if he is adopted, his adopted family's name becomes his real last name, but I was trying to interpret what the Hagenman brothers meant when they asked "is Walker his real last name" and that was the only reasonable explanation... Again, sorry for the misunderstanding. Quote
DraikNova Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) I'm not offended. I'm just trying to clarify that that's why I think that explanation wouldn't, well, explain the Hagenman brothers' statement. Edited November 16, 2015 by DraikNova Quote
DuckBricks Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 I'm not offended. I'm just trying to clarify that that's why I think that explanation wouldn't, well, explain the Hagenman brothers' statement. Ok, makes sense. What do you think they meant by that if he isn't adopted? Quote
bricksfan Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 It´s just to confuse us IMO... Since they haven´t revealed the official last names for the ninja, maybe we will learn the ninja´s last names this season. When they asked that you could answer "yes", so there´s still the possibility that Jay´s last name is Walker Quote
DraikNova Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Personally I'm guessing a generic mysterious past for Jay's parents will be revealed, which forced them to change their last name. So far we have "former adventurer and friend of Wu" for Kai and Nya's father, "roboticist, once-revived" for Zane's and a relatively plain somewhat overbearing father for Cole. Quote
gamejutzu Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) Kai´s will be Skylor Why would Kai wish to be in a relationship with Skylor if he can just drop by the noodle house? She didn't die. And to be honest, the djinn blades can probably warp reality, thus making Jay's last name not Walker. I still remember the old fake episode descriptions: "A gang on undead pirates kidnaps Jay's parents" HRHMMMM....... Edited November 16, 2015 by gamejutzu Quote
NinjaJayNuva Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Jays last name is canon Not really, I can be a joke by Cole instead of a real last name. Quote
LegendsOfNinjago Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 Uhh, nope, it's totally canon Quote
PenPlays Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Uhh, nope, it's totally canon We were only assuming that Jay's last name is Walker based off of the credits in one of the "Rise of the Snakes" episodes where it lists Ed and Edna (not Jay) as having the last name of "Walker." It was generally assumed from that point that that was Jay's last name, although the Hageman brothers have recently stated otherwise. Keep in mind that the Jay Walker One might also be named as a pun rather than actually being named after Jay (in the show at least. I don't know if that was Lego's intention as they might have assumed the same as us initially). Also, in other news, the Hageman brothers have stated that we have already seen Jay's father in the show. Whether it's still Ed who has been leading some sort of double life (but that's taking it too far) or not who knows, but there is quite a few candidates that could apply. This includes, but is not limited to: Cyrus Borg The Mailman (This is a bit far fetched) Clouse Master Chen (who said that Skylor had to be his only child) Lou (insert above statement but replace Cole with Skylor) Wu (I would say this one is the most far fetched) But let's be honest here, who is the one character that has been developed enough in this series to merit, not only a memorable moment of light on the show, but also the chance at being the parent of one of the Ninja? Dare I say it... Ronin? Edited November 17, 2015 by Penkid11 Quote
DuckBricks Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 We were only assuming that Jay's last name is Walker based off of the credits in one of the "Rise of the Snakes" episodes where it lists Ed and Edna (not Jay) as having the last name of "Walker." It was generally assumed from that point that that was Jay's last name, although the Hageman brothers have recently stated otherwise. Keep in mind that the Jay Walker One might also be named as a pun rather than actually being named after Jay (in the show at least. I don't know if that was Lego's intention as they might have assumed the same as us initially). Also, in other news, the Hageman brothers have stated that we have already seen Jay's father in the show. Whether it's still Ed who has been leading some sort of double life (but that's taking it too far) or not who knows, but there is quite a few candidates that could apply. This includes, but is not limited to: Cyrus Borg The Mailman (This is a bit far fetched) Clouse Master Chen (who said that Skylor had to be his only child) Lou (insert above statement but replace Cole with Skylor) Wu (I would say this one is the most far fetched) But let's be honest here, who is the one character that has been developed enough in this series to merit, not only a memorable moment of light on the show, but also the chance at being the parent of one of the Ninja? Dare I say it... Ronin? Hrm... They said that "Jay loves him," so as much as I want his dad to be Ronin, Jay's really only showed love for Cyrus Borg... So that unnecessary side character is his dad? I wanna hear this backstory! Quote
Mandate Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Personally I'm guessing a generic mysterious past for Jay's parents will be revealed, which forced them to change their last name. So far we have "former adventurer and friend of Wu" for Kai and Nya's father, "roboticist, once-revived" for Zane's and a relatively plain somewhat overbearing father for Cole. We still don't have most of the details concerning the (second?) Serpentine war, and we have seen Cole's father before. Jay has me stumped, though. It has to be someone that very clearly has lightning abilities, or the capacity to. Why would Kai wish to be in a relationship with Skylor if he can just drop by the noodle house? She didn't die. So, what you're saying is, is that if Kai wants to be in a relationship with Skylor (which he does) a magic genie falling out of the sky and offering him that wish would have no effect on him simply because he could drop by a noodle house and say hi? And to be honest, the djinn blades can probably warp reality, thus making Jay's last name not Walker. What? Edit: alright, I'm going to throw this out the window so no one else can. What if Jay's father is I regret nothing. Edited November 17, 2015 by Mandate Quote
gamejutzu Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 I regret nothing. Well, that made my day. So, what you're saying is, is that if Kai wants to be in a relationship with Skylor (which he does) a magic genie falling out of the sky and offering him that wish would have no effect on him simply because he could drop by a noodle house and say hi? No. I'm saying, why would Kai even need to make a wish to be with Skylor if they are already in a relationship? Literally all he has to do to see her is swing by the noodle house for lunch. I was asking Bricksfan that question, seems a bit strange why he would have to go through all that unnecessary work. Quote
LegendsOfNinjago Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 @mandate I support this decision. Quote
NinjaJayNuva Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 We were only assuming that Jay's last name is Walker based off of the credits in one of the "Rise of the Snakes" episodes where it lists Ed and Edna (not Jay) as having the last name of "Walker." It was generally assumed from that point that that was Jay's last name, although the Hageman brothers have recently stated otherwise. Keep in mind that the Jay Walker One might also be named as a pun rather than actually being named after Jay (in the show at least. I don't know if that was Lego's intention as they might have assumed the same as us initially). Also, in other news, the Hageman brothers have stated that we have already seen Jay's father in the show. Whether it's still Ed who has been leading some sort of double life (but that's taking it too far) or not who knows, but there is quite a few candidates that could apply. This includes, but is not limited to: Cyrus Borg The Mailman (This is a bit far fetched) Clouse Master Chen (who said that Skylor had to be his only child) Lou (insert above statement but replace Cole with Skylor) Wu (I would say this one is the most far fetched) But let's be honest here, who is the one character that has been developed enough in this series to merit, not only a memorable moment of light on the show, but also the chance at being the parent of one of the Ninja? Dare I say it... Ronin? Did you notice the word love? It say Jay loves that man, so the only possible man in your list Cyrus Borg ( well maybe you can also count Wu ) Quote
PenPlays Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Did you notice the word love? It say Jay loves that man, so the only possible man in your list Cyrus Borg ( well maybe you can also count Wu ) Keep in mind that the Hageman brothers are working well beyond Skybound. They might be referring to Jay loving his father in the future. Regarding Cyrus Borg: His condition of being paralyzed since birth might impair him from...er...having children. This might debunk him from being Jay's dad, but that's pure speculation on my part. Quote
DuckBricks Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Keep in mind that the Hageman brothers are working well beyond Skybound. They might be referring to Jay loving his father in the future. Regarding Cyrus Borg: His condition of being paralyzed since birth might impair him from...er...having children. This might debunk him from being Jay's dad, but that's pure speculation on my part. They also said we've seen him before, and Jay loves him in his prior appearances though... (They followed up to someone's question) so I'm guessing Cyrus, although you do bring up a good point. Quote
The Lego Nolan Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Keep in mind that the Hageman brothers are working well beyond Skybound. They might be referring to Jay loving his father in the future. Regarding Cyrus Borg: His condition of being paralyzed since birth might impair him from...er...having children. This might debunk him from being Jay's dad, but that's pure speculation on my part. I doubt that would have any effect. In the real world it probably would, but I doubt it would matter in the show. Quote
bricksfan Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Well, that made my day. No. I'm saying, why would Kai even need to make a wish to be with Skylor if they are already in a relationship? Literally all he has to do to see her is swing by the noodle house for lunch. I was asking Bricksfan that question, seems a bit strange why he would have to go through all that unnecessary work. What I meant is for example, take a look at Nya. We thought for sure that Jay would be with Nya, but then came Cole and they got into a fight. Maybe Kai just wants to prevent that. Plus, they never said Kai and Skylor were in a relationship. And think, why would Skylor return if it was not for Kai? I mean, with Skylor, Sensei could just fire all ninja since she has every power. Quote
DuckBricks Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) What I meant is for example, take a look at Nya. We thought for sure that Jay would be with Nya, but then came Cole and they got into a fight. Maybe Kai just wants to prevent that. Plus, they never said Kai and Skylor were in a relationship. And think, why would Skylor return if it was not for Kai? I mean, with Skylor, Sensei could just fire all ninja since she has every power. There's some plus sides to having a team (i.e. When you get captured with a deepstone net it's nice to have a team backing you up...) Edited November 17, 2015 by legozebra Quote
Mandate Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 inb4 Cole and Nya are the timetravelling parents of Jay Quote
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