gamejutzu Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 (edited) She still isn't. Well, that's quite a waste of the character "6" then, now isn't it? NO. LOL Edited November 20, 2015 by gamejutzu Quote
Exetrius Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Well, that's quite a waste of the character "6" then, now isn't it? I wouldn't mind at all if 'Samurai X' would become 'Samurai Six'! Has a nice ring to it Quote
Mandate Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Well, that's quite a waste of the character "6" then, now isn't it? Nya had to jump through all sorts of hoops to become a ninja. Skylor doesn't get to show up for five seconds, be completely and utterly useless in the long run, and then leave and be called a ninja for it. Quote
PenPlays Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Nya had to jump through all sorts of hoops to become a ninja. Skylor doesn't get to show up for five seconds, be completely and utterly useless in the long run, and then leave and be called a ninja for it. Agreed. If anyone is actually considered the "sixth Ninja" it's Dareth. But seriously, whether we consider Dareth official, or boot him and put Nya in his place, that still doesn't justify Skylor from being a secondary character by definition. Quote
gamejutzu Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Nya had to jump through hoops to become a ninja. Skylor doesn't get to show up for five seconds, be completely useless in the long run, and then leave and be called a ninja for it. Good point, she was pretty lame, and her powers would make it hard to become a distinguished member. be called a ninja So, what is she then? Not much other affiliations associate with tactical suits with hoods. Quote
Takanuinuva Posted November 20, 2015 Posted November 20, 2015 Whose to say Skylor even has her powers after Chen used them to turn himself and his followers into Anacondrai. Skylor did absorb all the elements but I don't recall she had any of them after the spell was cast. Did she even have an elemental dragon after Chen and his followers left the island? Quote
Mandate Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 So, what is she then? Not much other affiliations associate with tactical suits with hoods. She's a weeaboo ( ) lady that runs a noodle shop and wears a gi. She's not "anything" really (so to speak), she's not a ninja or a samurai, she's just Skylor. She doesn't really need to be anything else at this point. Whose to say Skylor even has her powers after Chen used them to turn himself and his followers into Anacondrai. Skylor did absorb all the elements but I don't recall she had any of them after the spell was cast. Did she even have an elemental dragon after Chen and his followers left the island? She didn't have an elemental dragon. We won't know if her powers did return for a while yet, the spell was reversed but whether or not that means someone's running around with the power of the Golden Weapons and somehow not dying remains to be seen Quote
gamejutzu Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) She's a weeaboo ( ) lady that runs a noodle shop and wears a gi. She's not "anything" really (so to speak), she's not a ninja or a samurai, she's just Skylor. She doesn't really need to be anything else at this point. I was just saying that before she did that stuff she was an assassin. And besides, there isn't much else to link her to. someone's running around with the power of the Golden Weapons Wat? How did that even happen? What makes you say that? Edited November 21, 2015 by gamejutzu Quote
Mandate Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 I was just saying that before she did that stuff she was an assassin. And besides, there isn't much else to link her to. I'm sorry, I must have missed something, since when has Skylor been an assassin? Wat? How did that even happen? What makes you say that? Lloyd's green energy + the four main elemental powers = "Golden Energy". Skylor was carrying around every elemental power we know of at one point, which is vastly more powerful than the Golden Weapons. I was wrong on the part of her not dying from that power being a plot hole of some kind (Lloyd did it, who's to say no one else can?), but it is a bit worrying that a noodle chef could be running around Ninjago with ultimate power. Quote
gamejutzu Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) I'm sorry, I must have missed something, since when has Skylor been an assassin? We can assume that Skylor had her outfit just lying there. She lives with Chen and his warriors. Everyone on the island is a bad guy. And she just has this outfit. She specializes in crossbows and flipz. Why does she even have a suit if she isn't a ninja or assassin? Before she was turned, an assassin or criminal is pretty much the only affiliation left for someone who lives with bad guys and has a suit. Remember, Chen is exiled, but that says nothing about his daughter. She could have raided warehouses and other mafia stuff. I really hope we see her backstory in this or next season. Skylor was carrying around every elemental power we know of at one point I thought she lost all the power when Chen took it from her, as the spell was directed towards her, explaining why Kai didn't lose his. It explains why Skylor wasn't a major game changer during the Anacondrai war, or used any powers as an Anacondrai. Actually, what I think is that she can use several powers at a time, but to less power/efficiency as the original owner of the power, it's just enough to get the job done. Edited November 21, 2015 by gamejutzu Quote
Mandate Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 We can assume that Skylor had her outfit just lying there. She lives with Chen and his warriors. Everyone on the island is a bad guy. And she just has this outfit. It's an article of clothing. You're reading way too far into this. She specializes in crossbows and flipz. I don't remember her ever using a crossbow in the show. Why does she even have a suit if she isn't a ninja or assassin? Before she was turned, an assassin or criminal is pretty much the only affiliation left for someone who lives with bad guys and has a suit. Remember, Chen is exiled, but that says nothing about his daughter. She could have raided warehouses and other mafia stuff. I really hope we see her backstory in this or next season. Again, they're clothes. Some people dress up like Naruto or Link from Legend of Zelda to their classes. Kai wearing the green ninja gi in episode 10 didn't make him the green ninja, and Skylor wearing a gi in a very Japanese-inspired culture doesn't necessarily mean she's a ninja or an assassin. Karloff's an aeronautical engineer, and he's wearing samurai armor bulkier than anything Nya ever used. Doesn't make him a samurai. I thought she lost all the power when Chen took it from her, as the spell was directed towards her, explaining why Kai didn't lose his. It explains why Skylor wasn't a major game changer during the Anacondrai war, or used any powers as an Anacondrai. She had the touch, she had the POWAAAAAAAAH!* Skylor had absorbed everyone's powers before Chen completed the spell. Which was how he was able to complete the spell. *very lame Transformers joke Actually, what I think is that she can use several powers at a time, but to less power/efficiency as the original owner of the power, it's just enough to get the job done. Completely unconfirmed, and I'm not even sure if they hinted at that. Quote
Lyichir Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Lloyd's green energy + the four main elemental powers = "Golden Energy". Skylor was carrying around every elemental power we know of at one point, which is vastly more powerful than the Golden Weapons. I was wrong on the part of her not dying from that power being a plot hole of some kind (Lloyd did it, who's to say no one else can?), but it is a bit worrying that a noodle chef could be running around Ninjago with ultimate power. We don't technically know what sort of limits Skylor has on her power. It's possible that, unlike Lloyd, her Amber power doesn't allow her to combine the various elements she's acquired. Quote
gamejutzu Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) It's an article of clothing. You're reading way too far into this. How? The ninja were wearing casual clothes, they could have made Skylor wear a different outfit if they wanted, but they chose not to. It's not that they were too lazy for detail, she probably always had the suit. I don't remember her ever using a crossbow in the show. Actually, she does. Skylor had absorbed everyone's powers before Chen completed the spell. Which was how he was able to complete the spell. Yeah, and now they're gone, as in she lost them all in order for the spell to be completed. Remember that Chen was originally going to absorb all her powers into his staff, but it failed. Attempt one or two, her power would still be gone by the season finale. Completely unconfirmed, and I'm not even sure if they hinted at that. She would be even more powerful than Lloyd even if she absorbed most of the elements but his. Look at Chen who took down Lloyd with his staff containing every element except Lloyd's. Skylor IS the staff in this case. Unlike Lloyd, her Amber power doesn't allow her to combine the various elements she's acquired. Actually, Lloyd has combined fire with his element at least twice. Edited November 21, 2015 by gamejutzu Quote
Lyichir Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 Actually, Lloyd has combined fire with his element at least twice. That's what I'm saying. Lloyd (at his peak, at least) could control all four of the elements in unison. I don't think we've seen Skylor ever use more than one power at a time, and she certainly hasn't combined them into anything like Lloyd's golden power. It's entirely possible that Skylor can only use one power at a time, making her less OP than people make her out to be. Quote
gamejutzu Posted November 21, 2015 Posted November 21, 2015 It's entirely possible that Skylor can only use one power at a time, making her less OP than people make her out to be. Even Chen's staff only used one power at a time. I'm entirely sure Skylor can only use one at a time. But i'm trying to say that Skylor can use everyone's power, but it is less powerful/effective than the original user. Otherwise Skylor would be the most powerful person on Ninjago, she could have beaten the Overlord and the Preeminent. Quote
Mandate Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 How? The ninja were wearing casual clothes, they could have made Skylor wear a different outfit if they wanted, but they chose not to. It's not that they were too lazy for detail, she probably always had the suit. ...when were the ninja wearing casual clothes? In the entirety of the Tournament, the ninja only wore casual clothes before they were invited to the Tournament. She originally wore a hood before the Tournament even began, and then she replaced it later with the hood of a ninja gi likely for combat purposes. I would recommend you look into how budgets are spent. Lots of stuff gets left on the cutting room floor because of deadlines or lack of resources. Actually, she does. When? Yeah, and now they're gone, as in she lost them all in order for the spell to be completed. Remember that Chen was originally going to absorb all her powers into his staff, but it failed. Attempt one or two, her power would still be gone by the season finale. What difference does it make if she lost them eventually? She still had every known element under her command for a relatively significant amount of time. Also, no Chen wasn't, the plan to use Skylor's power only came into being when the Staff was broken and everyone's powers went back to their owners. Whether or not all of her other powers would have disappeared is unknown, most likely case scenario it wouldn't have because otherwise the entire Tournament was a complete waste of time. She would be even more powerful than Lloyd even if she absorbed most of the elements but his. Look at Chen who took down Lloyd with his staff containing every element except Lloyd's. Skylor IS the staff in this case. So, what's your point? I've already said she's more powerful than Lloyd. Lloyd's basically been the worst "Chosen One" ever. On a side-note, I had forgotten how awful that scene was. Even Chen's staff only used one power at a time. I'm entirely sure Skylor can only use one at a time. That's not a *rule* though, because it's never been explicitly stated anywhere that that is the case. Chen is theatrical, for all we know he only used one power at a time to rub it into Lloyd that he couldn't do a thing. But i'm trying to say that Skylor can use everyone's power, but it is less powerful/effective than the original user. Otherwise Skylor would be the most powerful person on Ninjago, she could have beaten the Overlord and the Preeminent. Still no evidence for it. Quote
gamejutzu Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) ...When were the ninja wearing casual clothes? In the entirety of the Tournament, the ninja only wore casual clothes before they were invited to the Tournament. She originally wore a hood before the Tournament even began, and then she replaced it later with the hood of a ninja gi likely for combat purposes. What i'm trying to say here is that she had the suit the entire time. Not just for the tournament. Also, no Chen wasn't, the plan to use Skylor's power only came into being when the Staff was broken and everyone's powers went back to their owners. Whether or not all of her other powers would have disappeared is unknown, most likely case scenario it wouldn't have because otherwise the entire Tournament was a complete waste of time. Umm, no. I remember Chen taking Skylor's power from her with the staff. Like all of it. And you are indeed right. At one point, Skylor was the most powerful person in Ninjago. When? She uses one when she fights Jacob. Edited November 22, 2015 by gamejutzu Quote
Mandate Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 What i'm trying to say here is that she had the suit the entire time. Not just for the tournament. But we never actually saw her in a casual situation. The first time we see Skylor she's wearing her normal robes and a hood, everyone else is wearing their "combat gear" too. Skylor is quick and flexible, it makes sense for her to bring something similar to a ninja gi for fighting match. Umm, no. I remember Chen taking Skylor's power from her with the staff. Like all of it. I haven't seen that scene in a while, but what why would the staff absorb her accumulated powers too? If it really is supposed to do that, then that would mean Chen is quite a fair bit dumber than he already appears, not exactly the face of an underground fighting tournament and noodle empire. She uses one when she fights Jacob. Pretty sure that was a regular bow, not a crossbow. Quote
Cagast Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 Also, sex does not exist in LEGO themes. Characters have no genitalia. It wouldn't really make a difference if Cyrus was paralyzed down there. There's a reason why Emmet got away with running out the door completely naked in The LEGO Movie and the movie was still rated PG. The reason is, Emmet is literally a plastic figure. He lives in a world made of plastic, controlled by humans. It's a totally different universe than Ninjago. Why don't you see objects made of bricks in ninjago universe? Why don't you see characters losing their body pieces? Because creators of Ninjago made a different universe. Therefore Ninjago, Chima and most probably Nexo Knights are supposed to be humans with organs and circulatory systems, but presented in shape of Lego figures, just like loads of other cartoon characters who don't have normal bodies. There is also a reason why they didn't want to fully show naked Jay (as said by someone already). Seriously, if they don't have genitalia, how do you think characters from Lego cartoons are born? Maybe you think they are being created in actual LEGO factories within their universe? Now realize how ridiculous that is. Quote
bricksfan Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) Also, sex does not exist in LEGO themes. Characters have no genitalia. It wouldn't really make a difference if Cyrus was paralyzed down there. There's a reason why Emmet got away with running out the door completely naked in The LEGO Movie and the movie was still rated PG. If there were no gender in Ninjago, then why do Jay and Cole like Nya or why does Kai like Skylor? Also, how was Skales Jr born? Edited November 22, 2015 by bricksfan Quote
Cagast Posted November 22, 2015 Posted November 22, 2015 (edited) If there were no gender in Ninjago, then why do Jay and Cole like Nya or why does Kai like Skylor? That's not the kind of 'sex' he was talking about. Also, how was Skales Jr born? The question is, how was anyone born, if that's the case, but it obviously isn't. Edited November 22, 2015 by Cagast Quote
PenPlays Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 (edited) Okay. Stop. There is gender. There are boys and girls. How they get things going and have kids is no issue for the imagination. A children's show/toys line will never touch on any of these topics, as it is meant to be implied by adults, and glanced over by kids. Skylor might come back as much as any of the elemental masters would. She, like the other elemental masters, no doubt had her powers returned. Much like Chen's staff, she can only control one element at a time, as was shown in the TV show. If she could combine them, into golden power, she would have used them to escape her father before being used as a vessel. I have just ended both conversations. Please find something else besides these two topics to discuss as they are getting far too heated, as well as straying away from the topic of the thread (mostly the former). Edited November 23, 2015 by Penkid11 Quote
gamejutzu Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 umm.. k... Any chance of Cryptor being rebuilt? What could happen in Kryptarium prison? Did Jay get lucky and escape, or did they let him go on purpose? Quote
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Cagast Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 Okay. Penkid explained what I tried to say perfectly so I'll stop now. Did Jay get lucky and escape, or did they let him go on purpose? Um, Jay in Kryptarium? Is there a new episode or plot leak (and where)? Quote
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