The-Nexu Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 Could someone with both, or just one, of these sets please give me a reckomendation between the Tyderium and the First Order Transport? I am asking for one for Christmas but I can't decide. I don't have the knew Chewi design but I am hopefully getting the MF in the future. However, I kind of wan't the han and Leia but I also want knew TFA ships an troops along with Fazma/Fasma. So, which would you say is the better set? Quote
Kristof Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 I don't have either set but in my oppinion, Imperial Shuttle looks much better. It's iconic ship and it's stands proud being quite different (colorwise & shapewise) from most of the other sets. Also from multiple reviews you can hear positive feedback mostly. FO Transport, on contrary, is quite typical grey angular vessel and at least the visual impression can't measure with Tydirium. Yet if you are more into minifigs and playability ("Prepare for deploy!" -"Roger that"- "Attaaaaack!!!") it becomes quite considerable choice for you :) You make no mistake by choosing either, yet Tydirium is my recommendation. I'm looking for a TFA set as a Christmas present in the next month. Which one is the best consider the price tag. parts count and playability? You should at least specify your approx budget, otherwise you won't get many rellevant advces. In general, I think all TFA sets has similar price/value ratio, maybe with one exception of TIE being quite expensive, considering the pieces and especially minifigs (where I see nothing reallyspecial and must-have). That being said, I add in the dame breath that all of the sets are somewhat expensive. Might be just my feeling but I usually check the image of the set, then read the tag and go like 'what?'. I'd consider all prices about 10% off to be standard and fair. Anyway, to me, the most appealing set is certainly Poe's X-wing and it wold be my recommendation. But again, your budget matters in the first place. Quote
daivader Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 just wondering if any one has any ideas of how i could hang a few of my star wars ships from my ceiling ? Quote
Kman860 Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 I'm looking for a TFA set as a Christmas present in the next month. Which one is the best consider the price tag. parts count and playability? Depends on who the gift is for-for a kid, playability, for an AFOL, probably parts count. just wondering if any one has any ideas of how i could hang a few of my star wars ships from my ceiling ? Steel cable :laugh: Quote
daivader Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 Depends on who the gift is for-for a kid, playability, for an AFOL, probably parts count. Steel cable :laugh: do you think fishing wire would the likes of an x wing and tie fighter? Quote
MartinCliffe Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 If it's stiff enough, that should work fine. You don't want anything too stretchy. I have various sets hanging by used guitar strings, works really well. Compared with the tension they're under on a guitar, even the heaviest LEGO set is no problem. Quote
daivader Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 If it's stiff enough, that should work fine. You don't want anything too stretchy. I have various sets hanging by used guitar strings, works really well. Compared with the tension they're under on a guitar, even the heaviest LEGO set is no problem. thanks :) Quote
YellowCorvette Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) You should at least specify your approx budget, otherwise you won't get many rellevant advces. In general, I think all TFA sets has similar price/value ratio, maybe with one exception of TIE being quite expensive, considering the pieces and especially minifigs (where I see nothing reallyspecial and must-have). That being said, I add in the dame breath that all of the sets are somewhat expensive. Might be just my feeling but I usually check the image of the set, then read the tag and go like 'what?'. I'd consider all prices about 10% off to be standard and fair. Anyway, to me, the most appealing set is certainly Poe's X-wing and it wold be my recommendation. But again, your budget matters in the first place. Sorry for not specify my budget. My budget is $86 and I want to find a TFA set that have the best price per parts ratio. Thanks for the advice however. Edited November 28, 2015 by ArmstrongYong Quote
Kristof Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Well Armstrong, then there is nothing easier than taking the sets that fit your budget and do the simple math. Yet I would not really recommend this, rather pragmatic approach. While price per part is easy to compute, it doesn't equal to (price)/(parts value) ratio. The latter is much harder to figure out and it's still more of a estimation than precise number. Minifigs also matters. Anyway, if you are buying the set to build it for yourself, I think it's not really necessary to think to much about these factors. Your personal feelings about each set is much more important :) Quote
Kman860 Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 If it's stiff enough, that should work fine. You don't want anything too stretchy. I have various sets hanging by used guitar strings, works really well. Compared with the tension they're under on a guitar, even the heaviest LEGO set is no problem. Time to phone up my guitar playing friends. Thanks for that info, never thought of that :sweet: Quote
Kristof Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) do you think fishing wire would the likes of an x wing and tie fighter? Definitely. Fishing wire of propper choice should hold quite huge load. It's not to stretchy as well. Nylon guitar strings should work fine too, I'd not recommend classic (metal) strings simply because it's harder to deal with. But in general, with either option the strength is your last issue (unless you hang UCS MF or something like that ) More importantly you should focus on anchoring the string to the model and don't rely much on bonds between bricks, unless you glue ( ) these together. You can use the holding levers incorporated by Lego (for sets which have those, i.e. republic gunships, frigates...). Otherwise it's case specific and you better test your anchoring twice before hanging the model high Edited November 29, 2015 by krisandkris12 Quote
_Samibotss_ Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Whenever I'm Holding 75101 Tie Fighter I don't feel like I'm Holding a 80.- LEGO Product, but more a 60 - 50$ Here is my pic - I had to replace the wing connection because they kept falling off, and I Overall Feel lke this set shouldn't be priced like that, even for a star wars licensed set. What do you think? Quote
Navy Trooper Fenson Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) The entire TFA range is pricier than other sets. I think it´s because of the new movie. Something similar happened with a few sets during the start of The Clone Wars. Republic Gunship for 150€, exclusive to a single store chain so no good discounts and the next version came with a couple 100 more pieces, was only 130€ and most retailers kept it below 100€. Worst offender of the TFA range has to be the Snowspeeder. 50€/40$ for what looks like a 27€/20$ set, maybe 35€ if you look at the piece count but I still wonder how they get 444 pieces in such a small model. It will go away when yearly Star Wars movies normalize. I would also recommend you looking into the instructions of 9492 TIE Fighter, maybe that connection looks better. Or maybe you made a mistake in a step? From what I remember the connection was extremely tight with all those clips and I haven´t heard of anybody else having problems with it. Your TIE looks like a recolored version of the 9492 with slight differences. That set was only 50$. Edited November 29, 2015 by Navy Trooper Fenson Quote
khatmorg Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Judging from the pic you didnt push the pillars into the wing panels far enough. The connection is actually super sturdy, far better than the previous version. The black is supposed to sit flush against the panels, you're not supposed to see any white. Quote
belkor Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Judging from the pic you didnt push the pillars into the wing panels far enough. The connection is actually super sturdy, far better than the previous version. The black is supposed to sit flush against the panels, you're not supposed to see any white. What he said. It's a pretty sturdy set imho, and pretty cool too - if bought at a discount. Quote
Lobot Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 I don't think this needs a dedicated thread, so I'll merge it later into the general Q&A thread pinned to the top of this forum Quote
_Samibotss_ Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Judging from the pic you didnt push the pillars into the wing panels far enough. The connection is actually super sturdy, far better than the previous version. The black is supposed to sit flush against the panels, you're not supposed to see any white. I know, I replaced it and made it like that simply because the edfault connection wasn't sturdy on my Tie Fighter, I actually rebuilt that part just to make sure it wasn't my mistake Worst offender of the TFA range has to be the Snowspeeder. 50€/40$ for what looks like a 27€/20$ set, maybe 35€ if you look at the piece count but I still wonder how they get 444 pieces in such a small model. It will go away when yearly Star Wars movies normalize. I was thinking the same thing, Like when I first saw it I was Baffled by the price, that's why I didn't touch it. Quote
peffour Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 (edited) Just wait for discounts to buy it... Got Poe's Xwing for 52€ instead of 99.90€ 1st order Tie for 53€ instead of 76.99€ 1st order Snowspeeder for 29.94€ instead of 54.99€ 1st order Transporter for 72€ instead of 109.99€ Falcon for around 110€ instead of 164.90€ And these came out not even 2 months ago! You just need a bit of patience, and check Amazon/Disney/toy shop deals. You don't necessarly have to buy it at Lego recommended retail prices ^^ About the Tie wings, the new ones are holding up better than the previous Tie Edited November 29, 2015 by peffour Quote
daivader Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Time to phone up my guitar playing friends. Thanks for that info, never thought of that :sweet: Definitely. Fishing wire of propper choice should hold quite huge load. It's not to stretchy as well. Nylon guitar strings should work fine too, I'd not recommend classic (metal) strings simply because it's harder to deal with. But in general, with either option the strength is your last issue (unless you hang UCS MF or something like that ) More importantly you should focus on anchoring the string to the model and don't rely much on bonds between bricks, unless you glue ( ) these together. You can use the holding levers incorporated by Lego (for sets which have those, i.e. republic gunships, frigates...). Otherwise it's case specific and you better test your anchoring twice before hanging the model high where do you get the holding levers ? and what are you using as cradles also how do you 'screw' it to your ceiling? thanks for your help to Quote
The-Nexu Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 I would like to add Poes X-Wing to the sets I'm considering as I don't have an X-Wing yet and the MF I am hoping to get will give me Rey and Fin. However, I've heard lots of people complaining about the wings. So, should I get the Tyderium, the FO Transporter or the X-wing? Quote
Kristof Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 where do you get the holding levers ? and what are you using as cradles also how do you 'screw' it to your ceiling? thanks for your help to Check the set 75021. There is technic liftarm you can retract on the top and 'carry' the whole model. Several other sets, mostly heavier flying vessels but also some land vehicles (At-Te) have it. It's designed to hang the model securely so you don't have to wory about falling. I woudln't use craddle if not necessary. That's another complication. But in case you want to grab and play with your models frequently, maybe some hook would be useful. Fixing your string to the ceiling very much depends on your type of construction. But I'd always expect always some drilling, I don't know about any easier solution. Quote
Kman860 Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Check the set 75021. There is technic liftarm you can retract on the top and 'carry' the whole model. Several other sets, mostly heavier flying vessels but also some land vehicles (At-Te) have it. It's designed to hang the model securely so you don't have to wory about falling. I woudln't use craddle if not necessary. That's another complication. But in case you want to grab and play with your models frequently, maybe some hook would be useful. Fixing your string to the ceiling very much depends on your type of construction. But I'd always expect always some drilling, I don't know about any easier solution. The one on the AT-TE was meant for it to be picked up by the dropship in 10195 Quote
Kristof Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 ^ Which means you can pick it up by hand too, doesn't it? I personaly find it very convenient, if not the only possible way how to lift it. Quote
Kman860 Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 ^ Which means you can pick it up by hand too, doesn't it? I personaly find it very convenient, if not the only possible way how to lift it. I know :laugh: At the time I thought that was one of the best design features I had ever seen in a set. To this day I think most sets that size should have a handle, as long as it does stick out, and still looks good. Quote
Kristof Posted November 29, 2015 Posted November 29, 2015 Yea, some sets would be pain to operate without that thing. For example the republic frigate - almost nowhere to hold with hands. Even Venator has it, yet it looks quite weird already Quote
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