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[Brickdoctor]

I don't see anything wrong with it, seeing as your prices are much higher than ours. If it was me, then it'd be a bad decision, since $10-$20 would get me the whole ship. I'm considering just getting keychains, but the sets themselves are still tempting. I think I'm going to cancel the plan to get multiples from Wave 1; I'll be getting one Battle of Naboo and one Clone BP (that one off a B&N gift card I've been meaning to use), and that's it. Then I'll skip the MF since it has no exclusive 'figs, and get to work designing and building my own. That should leave me able to acquire the Infiltrator, Geonosian fighter, and podrace sets.

[XimenaPaulina]

I think I'm going to cancel the plan to get multiples from Wave 1; I'll be getting one Battle of Naboo and one Clone BP (that one off a B&N gift card I've been meaning to use), and that's it. Then I'll skip the MF since it has no exclusive 'figs, and get to work designing and building my own. That should leave me able to acquire the Infiltrator, Geonosian fighter, and podrace sets.

Same here. I was originally planning getting a couple of the Clone and Mando BPs, but now I just ordered one Clone BP. The only sets I'd be buying for Wave 1 is the Battle of Naboo and Battle of Geonosis, then get the V-Wing astromech, Mace's astromech, and tactical droid figs. For Wave 2, I'll only get the MF and Geonosian fighter and skip to the minifigs that I want - Savage, Vos, Eeth/Agen, Padme. Then the rest will be the parts for my planned MOCs.

[Fallenangel]

Now it's my time to ask for your opinions guys.

I've recently decided not to buy the 7931 T-6 Shuttle Set and just purchased the minifigs of my interest, Shaak Ti and Saesee Tiin. I spent approx. $60 just for the two figs, against $120 if I bought the whole set (S&H inlcuded). I had a guilty feeling after making that purchase, thinking that I've just made a dumb decision. But with the current news of amazing 2nd wave sets of 2011, it seems I've made the right decision since the $60 that I've saved will be able to afford me some of the sets and/or select minifigs in the 2nd wave. I'm also planning on doing the same strategy for the 2nd wave, just buying the minifigs that I like and just passing off the sets themselves. My question is, is this buying strategy just ok? Is it a silly move purchasing the figs individually for insanely huge prices (like my $60-2 jedi example above)? Or is it still advisable to purchase the whole sets? (even if I don't really need/want them since I only want the new minifigs). (Some things to consider are I live in a remote country where Lego prices are 100% more expensive compared to the US/EU and I'm someone who has limited spending resources each year). Thanks!

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[XimenaPaulina]

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EDIT: You've got PM. Let's settle this matter privately.

Edited December 25, 2010 by KielDaMan

[StoutFiles]

Now it's my time to ask for your opinions guys.

I've recently decided not to buy the 7931 T-6 Shuttle Set and just purchased the minifigs of my interest, Shaak Ti and Saesee Tiin. I spent approx. $60 just for the two figs, against $120 if I bought the whole set (S&H inlcuded). I had a guilty feeling after making that purchase, thinking that I've just made a dumb decision. But with the current news of amazing 2nd wave sets of 2011, it seems I've made the right decision since the $60 that I've saved will be able to afford me some of the sets and/or select minifigs in the 2nd wave. I'm also planning on doing the same strategy for the 2nd wave, just buying the minifigs that I like and just passing off the sets themselves. My question is, is this buying strategy just ok? Is it a silly move purchasing the figs individually for insanely huge prices (like my $60-2 jedi example above)? Or is it still advisable to purchase the whole sets? (even if I don't really need/want them since I only want the new minifigs). (Some things to consider are I live in a remote country where Lego prices are 100% more expensive compared to the US/EU and I'm someone who has limited spending resources each year). Thanks!

Unless you need the figs NOW, if you could wait then more figs will enter the market over time and the price for them will go down. I think if money is a issue then it's always a good idea to wait unless it's an expired set.

[Clone OPatra]

I'd like to add my own two cents to KDM's question above.

Personally, I think buying the figures it the best way to go. At times I've been hesitant about paying large sums of money for a single figure, but I've basically gotten passed that. I recently ordered Aayla for $25 USD. Here's what you have to ask yourself: what do I really want out of this set? If you're like me, and it sounds like you are in this instance, what you really just want is the cool minifigures. Even if buying the cool minifigures means you're paying half of the price of the set for the figures you want, you're still saving money. You got what you really wanted anyway, and you paid much less than the price of the set, which you didn't care for.

Buying the few figures that you want will always be cheaper than paying for the whole set, and if it's really just the figs you want, don't buy the whole set. I don't feel remotely bad for paying $25 for a single figure; it sure beats $120!

[Fallenangel]

I realize I'm going against what I just did, but it is KielDaMan's thread, so...

Judging from the amount of attention that minifigures have been getting lately (and, of course, the noticeable decrease in set quality as rehashes begin to sport less and less improvement from the previous renditions) I would advise you to continue your buying strategy. As I've been saying, the ship is in fact most of what you pay for when you're buying a LEGO set, and when the ship is well below one's standards and you're on a tight budget, it seems more reasonable to forgo the pricey junk and steer your money toward what you want (which, lately, appears to be the minifigures). I've seen your MOCs, and they are of far superior quality than anything LEGO's released in the last ten years; it's clear you have no need for LEGO's vehicles, except for parts. And I think that buying all the parts of a set on bricklink just might be cheaper than getting the actual set - especially in the case of older sets - so that shouldn't be an issue for you. (I should try that myself, though Internet shopping isn't something I'm terribly familiar with... bye now, I'm off to order all the parts for three of 7140 )

Being a ship-based buyer myself, I find it hard to believe I'm writing this right now. I've always had a sort of contempt for minifigures, and lately it's pained me to see so much attention being lavished on them while the actual ships are neglected. But I guess I should learn to adjust to the 'inevitable change in the franchise', as KielDaMan called it. And who knows, maybe LEGO's just accepted that their non-UCS sets will always look crappy compared to fans' beloved creations. (Because most of them do, you know.)

EDIT: I just remembered that I had a question of my own to post here. In Dark Force Rising, when Leia finds out that the soil on Honoghr had been tainted for 44 years (which would be since 35 BBY - The Thrawn Trilogy takes place five years after Jedi, which puts it at 9 ABY) she realizes that the devastation of the planet had occurred during the Clone Wars. It appears that Lucas actually remembered this and featured the event in Clone Wars Volume 6, but that takes place in 20 BBY. (It was in the first issue to feature Phase II clones, if I remember correctly.) With the Wars established as taking place between 22 BBY and 19 BBY it appears that the event featured in Volume 6 was not the event discussed in Dark Force Rising. Is there another war I don't know about, or is this just one of those retcons that nobody really noticed? (I didn't notice myself until watching Sith one day and remembering that there was only a 21-year gap between Episode III and Star Wars).

While I was looking up the needed dates, I noticed that Wookieepedia says 35 BBY was also the original date for the end of the Wars. In addition, it's said that Anakin was knighted 30 months into the war (in the last year of the war). The former contradicts the events of Clones while the latter contradicts the Neo-Clone Wars, in which Anakin is shown as a knight in the first year of the war (though the Venator and ARC-170 appear to be well used at that point, so I guess it is actually the last year of the war).

I'm confused...

Edited December 26, 2010 by fallenangel327

[XimenaPaulina]

Thank you for all the responses guys. I really appreciate your different POVs from various sides of the spectrum. I think Cloney hit it right on the bullseye: I only want the minifigs of most of the 2011 sets, so I'd better stick with this buying strategy even if it means shelling out quite a significant amount of $$$ for individual figs, since overall I'd be able maximize my budget for the whole year. It's actually a good thing that almost all of the 2011 set vehicles are generally crappy that's why it's easier to dismiss them and just buy the fantastic 2011 SW minifigs individually.

Thanks again guys and we can now move on to the next question.

[StoutFiles]

Being a ship-based buyer myself, I find it hard to believe I'm writing this right now. I've always had a sort of contempt for minifigures, and lately it's pained me to see so much attention being lavished on them while the actual ships are neglected.

It pains me as well, especially when figures are used to increase the price of an otherwise average set.

[Brickdoctor]

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Let's see, the closest thing to a war in that period would be the Stark Hyperspace War, a conflict which did invlove the Jedi (Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon, no less, and some other notables). I don't have time to research that at the moment, but I know the war was fought in 44 BBY, far too early for the Honoghr incident. Based on the info you provided, I'd say that's definitely a retcon.

[XimenaPaulina]

Being a ship-based buyer myself, I find it hard to believe I'm writing this right now. I've always had a sort of contempt for minifigures, and lately it's pained me to see so much attention being lavished on them while the actual ships are neglected.

Actually, I'm not really a strictly minifig-buyer, I do also want the vehicles, given that they are decently made, and if I really want them. My perfect example for this are my three most favorite SW purchases: 7676 RGS, 6212 X-Wing, and the 8088 ARC-170. I purchased those simply because of the ships, the figs were just added bonuses (which turned out to be great figs as well). It's just the 2011 line-up has no vehicle that really appeals to me, only the figs. (Exception is the MF)

[Churchill]

Kiel I don't think I have any new arguments to bring to the table, but if it will help I'll cast my vote for just getting the minifigs.

I've struggled with this alot too, since I don't want alot of the sets- I want the astromech in Mace's JSF, but not the whole set... and I just got a Mace off of Bricklink. I find that I'm not patient, and don't like to wait for the prices of the individual figs to fall once more get into the market. The little kid in me wants them NOW!

I've thought about getting the sets and selling everything but the figs, but can't bring myself to do it.

Probably, I'm alot more like you and Fallenangel on this- I'd rather have a great ship any day, with less emphasis on the figs. It just seems like right now that's Lego's strength, the figs.

Maybe on my wish list of solutions would be for them make the figs available, and a selection of parts beyond the basics (like windscreens, etc). Like a way to buy a selection of plates in good colors in bulk (not piece by piece like pick a brick). How about a set that's a bucket of "Star Wars"-ish plates and pieces, with an included jedi or pilot? Give us the "building blocks" and let us use our imaginations.

I still want that great looking minifig it the ship, but maybe I can just build it myself....

[Stegoceras]

EDIT: I just remembered that I had a question of my own to post here. In Dark Force Rising, when Leia finds out that the soil on Honoghr had been tainted for 44 years (which would be since 35 BBY - The Thrawn Trilogy takes place five years after Jedi, which puts it at 9 ABY) she realizes that the devastation of the planet had occurred during the Clone Wars. It appears that Lucas actually remembered this and featured the event in Clone Wars Volume 6, but that takes place in 20 BBY. (It was in the first issue to feature Phase II clones, if I remember correctly.) With the Wars established as taking place between 22 BBY and 19 BBY it appears that the event featured in Volume 6 was not the event discussed in Dark Force Rising. Is there another war I don't know about, or is this just one of those retcons that nobody really noticed? (I didn't notice myself until watching Sith one day and remembering that there was only a 21-year gap between Episode III and Star Wars).

While I was looking up the needed dates, I noticed that Wookieepedia says 35 BBY was also the original date for the end of the Wars. In addition, it's said that Anakin was knighted 30 months into the war (in the last year of the war). The former contradicts the events of Clones while the latter contradicts the Neo-Clone Wars, in which Anakin is shown as a knight in the first year of the war (though the Venator and ARC-170 appear to be well used at that point, so I guess it is actually the last year of the war).

I'm confused...

Lets see if I can help you here, as far as I know the Poisoning of Honoghr has been retconned to have happened at 20 BBY as opposed to the earlier stated 35 BBY This event thus happened during the Clone wars which of course also have been retconned to different years after Attack of the Clones.

As for Anakin being knighted (+scared at the eye +having a different haircut +having a padawan +etc, etc, etc) in the first year of the war is simply because they completely screwed up the EU time-line of the Clone wars with the Neo-clone wars series and promising they'll explain/fix it all eventually. There are literally dozens of things that are being changed/retconned in the neo-clone wars episodes, I guess the producers don't even bother with established EU. I guess until that time comes and a decent time-line is made it's just up to the fan to make his own decisions on what happened when and what he considers Canon or not.

Edited December 26, 2010 by Stegoceras

[Brickdoctor]

Lets see if I can help you here, as far as I know the Poisoning of Honoghr has been retconned to have happened at 20 BBY as opposed to the earlier stated 35 BBY This event thus happened during the Clone wars which of course also have been retconned to different years after Attack of the Clones.

As for Anakin being knighted (+scared at the eye +having a different haircut +having a padawan +etc, etc, etc) in the first year of the war is simply because they completely screwed up the EU time-line of the Clone wars with the Neo-clone wars series and promising they'll explain/fix it all eventually. There are literally dozens of things that are being changed/retconned in the neo-clone wars episodes, I guess the producers don't even bother with established EU. I guess until that time comes and a decent time-line is made it's just up to the fan to make his own decisions on what happened when and what he considers Canon or not.

Correct. Unfortunately, so far 'explaining/fixing it all' has constituted retconning old Clone Wars facts or declaring them incorrect- there's no actual explaining and certainly no fixing; just altering to make Neo-CW correct.

Wookieepedia's current explanation (and it makes perfect sense) is that the orbit of Honoghr is shorter than that of Coruscant, so 44 years was Honoghr-years, not Galactic Standard years.

Edited December 26, 2010 by Brickdoctor

[The Legonater]

Correct. Unfortunately, so far 'explaining/fixing it all' has constituted retconning old Clone Wars facts or declaring them incorrect- there's no actual explaining and certainly no fixing; just altering to make Neo-CW correct.

I know, I really hate that. Untill the retcon the thousands of problems they have I've been considering CW a step below the novel canon. Somehow I'm expecting the final episode will result in someone waking up saying "Phew! It was all a dream!"

[Fallenangel]

Correct. Unfortunately, so far 'explaining/fixing it all' has constituted retconning old Clone Wars facts or declaring them incorrect- there's no actual explaining and certainly no fixing; just altering to make Neo-CW correct.

Wookieepedia's current explanation (and it makes perfect sense) is that the orbit of Honoghr is shorter than that of Coruscant, so 44 years was Honoghr-years, not Galactic Standard years.

Huh? The maitrakh specifies in Dark Force Rising that it was actually 48 Noghri years and 44 'standard' years. I guess I should just accept it as a retcon and move on...

[Brickdoctor]

Huh? The maitrakh specifies in Dark Force Rising that it was actually 48 Noghri years and 44 'standard' years. I guess I should just accept it as a retcon and move on...

Uh, don't look at me. Wookieepedia lists that info, they must hae gotten it from somewhere, so I assumed it was officially retconned.

[Artanis I]

In regard to KDM's question and the discussion, I would like to add my own personal perspective.

I recently purchased some Atlantis figures, as I don't have the room or money to buy all the sets, but I like the figures so I bought them separately. I have no intention ever of buying the sets - even though they look pretty cool. I have entertained the same notion for Jedi figures, as I'm not a SW Lego buyer either. The high prices attached to some of these figures has meant that I haven't done this yet, if I ever do.

I know some people will buy sets for certain parts/minifigs and sell off the rest or use it for MOCs. I'm not one for stocking up on parts for MOCs either, but maybe you (the reader) are and therefore would still benefit from buying the set rather than just the bits you want.

[Blackknight112]

I was wondering if someone knows how much a new mold will raise the price of a new set?

Edited December 29, 2010 by Blackknight112

[Legoman]

I was wondering if someone knows how much a new mold will raise the price of a new set?

Depends if you actully mean New mold. Because it will also go up if that part is also printed. It will also depend on the part size and theme (your probably refering to SW since this is the SW sub-forum).

If it's simply a new standard part, then the price won't necessarily go up at all. However, If that part is say, a new head for a SW character, it could go up quite substantually. Because both A) It will have been very expencive to design B) It's probably printed C) It won't be used much - therefore won't recover it's cost over time, and D) It'd likely to be a licensed part, so lego will be having to pay Lucasfilm for rights to design that part.

It will vary quite a lot, but thats one example. Unfortunately I don't (and most people wouldn't have a clue either) have exact amounts that they would add to a set.

Hope that helps

Edited December 29, 2010 by Legoman

[The Legonater]

In theory, would it be able to 'unglue' these new magnet sets?

[XimenaPaulina]

In theory, would it be able to 'unglue' these new magnet sets?

Like what I said in the other topic regarding these upcoming glued magnets, theoretically, these new magnet sets can be 'unglued'. Without knowing the exact adhesive/glue that TLG will be using, there is always a solvent that can dissolve away the a certain adhesive. But the more important question is, will these adhesive-remover chemicals/solvents have a damaging effect on the minifig? (decoloration, print removal, deterioration of the ABS plastic). These are the things that need to be tested and verified. When I grab some of these glued magnets, I'll try to do some trials in the lab.

[The Legonater]

Like what I said in the other topic regarding these upcoming glued magnets, theoretically, these new magnet sets can be 'unglued'. Without knowing the exact adhesive/glue that TLG will be using, there is always a solvent that can dissolve away the a certain adhesive. But the more important question is, will these adhesive-remover chemicals/solvents have a damaging effect on the minifig? (decoloration, print removal, deterioration of the ABS plastic). These are the things that need to be tested and verified. When I grab some of these glued magnets, I'll try to do some trials in the lab.

Ah, good. Personally I was thinking of the classic way with a knife, but that should work too

[Legoman]

Ah, good. Personally I was thinking of the classic way with a knife, but that should work too

I totally Conquer. A decent knife can do anything!

[Brickdoctor]

Even if the legs are ruined, so long as they aren't printed, you could just replace them with standard legs. I'd assume they'd rely on the glued magnet brick to hold the legs together and not glue the legs to the hips.

Edited December 30, 2010 by Brickdoctor