Saberwing40k Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) Well, it's certainly about time I made a work in progress thread for this monstrosity. A while ago, I decided that I wanted to build a 9 axle mobile crane, similar to a Terex AC 1000, with all of the features. I chose the crane for several reasons, including: -The fact that it has star formation outriggers, rather than telescopic ones, which would be easier to make strong. - The Sideways Superlift, or SSL. On the real crane, it is used to maintain tension on the boom, allowing the crane to lift heavier loads. A problem with many Lego cranes is that the booms sag, something I hope this will remedy. -The sheer size of the thing gives more room for including functions, like steering and outriggers. (more on that later) As a model, I want to be able to have: Fully remote control drive and steering Swapable steering modes, from normal to crab steer Automatically deploying outriggers, using only one channel Full crane functions, winch, luff, slew, and boom extension. SSL, to maintain tension on boom Minimum amount of parts to be fitted by hand, instead having everything attached. Lights A red and black Mammoet inspired livery Be able to lift 42009 at minimum radius. Now, with those goals in mind, I made a prototype boom: The colors are awful, but it was a good proof of concept. It weighed 2954 [2366 in revised version.] grams, extended to 263 centimeters long, and was 105 cm retracted. I say was because I took this apart and made version two, which sadly hasn't been photographed yet. This version of the boom uses an XL motor for extension of the first section, operating through a very long drive shaft, a reinforced bevel gear box, and then a worm gear to 40z gear setup. The second section has 2 slaved M motors for power, which operates through a nightmarishly complex gear train, and extends the 3rd and 4th sections together, via a rope system. The SSL spreader mechanism was just as bad, having to operate through a spline shaft. This version had a number of problems, including drivetrains that were needlessly complex, and it weight too much. The new version is lighter and simpler. The boom head. The reel on the side is one of two that operate the 4th boom section, through the pulley system described here: Jennifer Clark also describes this on her site, and it is used in 8421 and 42009. However, I had to actually use string reels, because nothing else was long enough. This is actually my 5th or sixth try at this, because initially I had a motor at each section, but when that proved too complex, I employed this solution. Another snag I hit was getting the 3rd section to extend. I was for a time using a custom gear rack made out of pins, but that ultimately proved to be too unreliable, so I went through my boxes of stuff, and got enough gear racks to make it work. Moving on, this was one of the easy parts. The base of the boom, with the mechanical cylinders that would have elevated it, and the XL motor that extends one of the sections. The LA brackets carry the gears that would have driven the SSL from motors in the superstructure. The SSL The above picture shows the extension mechanism, with 2 u joints to make an awkward connection, and the SSL mechanism. The SSL would have been elevated by a linear actuator, then spread by two small ones. The spreader actuators are driven through a worm gear, which is free to slide along the red 12L axle, maintaining connection to the rest of the drive train at all times. However, this mechanism is over complex and flimsy, meaning that it will receive a redesign. And now, for the pictures of this boom fully extended: So far, the boom is mostly complete, and I have prototypes for most sub systems, so this should be great once finished. Progress Edit: I have made some progress on this project, namely working out some of the stuff involved with the outriggers. The below picture is a mockup of the crane on the turntable, with all the wheels in their correct locations. The lime beams in the foreground are my width guide for when I'm building axles. The crane is going to be about 23 studs wide when complete. Most of the outrigger is figured out, but now my real challenge is figuring out how to integrate the superstructure and the lifting cylinders. Below is a picture of the outrigger mechanism as it is complete right now. More Progress: I have built most of the superstructure that holds the boom. It is made with some Znap truss pieces, and is quite strong. Also shown is the chain drive, which switches on a set of recievers in the superstructure. The winches and all that will go behind this unit, on a piece that is detachable, for ease of transport. Slowly, but surely, this project is coming along. Be patient. Edited February 25, 2014 by Saberwing40k Quote
Paul B Technic Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Wow, that is a crazy looking build. Good luck with getting it to do everything you want. Quote
Lipko Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 How on Earth are you going to lift that boom? (okay, it's not that undoable, I guess you plan to use several Pneumatic cylinders for that) Quote
Gee Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 This is gonna be monstrously huge! Look forward to seeing the progress. Quote
TinkerBrick Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Looks heavy! How do you plan on mounting it to the turret? Turntables? Quote
Junpei Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Wow! That's huge. I think you'll need at least 10 pneumatic cylinders to lift that, maybe even something like Bricktrain used in his mobile crane: That's a lot of Technic. Quote
Tamas Juhasz Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 (edited) @Lipko: I'm currently building a mobile crane with similar, big boom. There is no way to use pneumatic. Pneumatic cylinders looking out ridiculous in such large booms. I use this, and I strongly recommend something similar, string operated cylinder: http://www.brickshel...ry.cgi?f=534220 With a strong string and this working method, there is no stronger cylinder, which looks good. (You can even decrease the string force with using reduction inside the cylinder.) Edited December 19, 2013 by Mbmc Quote
dr_spock Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 Cool. It looks heavy but not impossible to raise, I think with pulleys. You're going to need a bigger bed. Quote
Mats_o Posted December 19, 2013 Posted December 19, 2013 MBMC: Nice one. I have made my own LA:s using gear racks and worm gears. I would think that about 4 of them might be able to lift that boom but the tension would be very high Quote
Saberwing40k Posted February 18, 2014 Author Posted February 18, 2014 Update! the first post has some new progress pictures. Quote
dhc6twinotter Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 That is massive! Looks like a fun project! Quote
Brick_Sticker Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 Looks incredible, keep the pics coming! Brick_Sticker Quote
Dion Posted February 19, 2014 Posted February 19, 2014 It looks awesome! Will it be, that when you extend the boom, the hook will stay at the same height? Quote
Saberwing40k Posted February 25, 2014 Author Posted February 25, 2014 Once again, we've got an update on the first post. Oh, and I am now a Knight, so you may refer to me as Sir Saberwing. Quote
grum64 Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I'm almost certain you're on something of questionable legality! ;-) Quote
weavil Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I say if Lego made, it's perfectly legal!!! But HOLY BAT TURDS Batman, that's ENORMOUS!!! It looks like it poops out the 42009! Still keep up the great work. Quote
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