Imperial Military Forces

[That Orange Thing]

2 minutes ago, BigEl said:

What Minifig is that Pilot with the atmospheric flight suit? Whats the official name or in which set did it came?

 

Also, I am triggered by the old AT-AT Pilot as well. The new one is just so much better.

And the Imperial Hovertank Pilot might just be the ugliest star wars minifig of all time. The Helmet mold is just wrong and combined with the print it looks like his face got smashed in...

The atmospheric flight suit will be a mix and match of various minifigs. The helmet is from set 7915, the visor is probably a rebel pilot head and the torso/legs from a more recent tie pilot. The end result really is a great figure though.

Agree on the Hovertank Pilot. The helmet is just not good at all but adding Syndrome's dual moulded arms to it does make it a slightly better mini figure. But only slightly.

[Agent Kallus]

Great work, you could use Bohdi as an Imperial cargo pilot for the next one 

[Renegade Clone]

To answer your comments, the printing on the micro-fighter AT-AT driver is definitely superior, but the colour choice isn't.

 

The Lego palette does not have a colour that matches the olive-grey colour of imperial uniforms. Likewise, the helmets worn by Veers and AT-ST drivers are grey-green, which isn't represented either (so dark grey is generally used). Between this and the colour correction in the 2004 Blu-ray masters (blue and over saturated, which make the rebel fleet troopers have bright pink skin tones), the AT-AT commander helmet and armour look bluish. Adywan's Star Wars Revisited details and corrects much of this if anyone is interested.

 

According to the 501st costume guides, AT-AT driver helmets/armour can be white/light grey, but the overalls have to be light grey. The minifigure would look really plain if this were the case, so TLG made the overalls sand blue to differentiate. An ideal AT-AT driver would have white helmet/armour and light grey overalls with printed straps.

 

I did away with the dark tan intelligence officer as there is no evidence in canon of it (TLG most likely made it whilst attempting the olive-grey colour for SW:Rebels). Advanced Weapons Research (e.g. Krennic) is under Military Intelligence, so white uniforms seem to make sense. I kept the old Snowtrooper because I'm fond of their moulded backpacks!

[BigEl]

47 minutes ago, Renegade Clone said:

To answer your comments, the printing on the micro-fighter AT-AT driver is definitely superior, but the colour choice isn't.

 

The Lego palette does not have a colour that matches the olive-grey colour of imperial uniforms. Likewise, the helmets worn by Veers and AT-ST drivers are grey-green, which isn't represented either (so dark grey is generally used). Between this and the colour correction in the 2004 Blu-ray masters (blue and over saturated, which make the rebel fleet troopers have bright pink skin tones), the AT-AT commander helmet and armour look bluish. Adywan's Star Wars Revisited details and corrects much of this if anyone is interested.

 

According to the 501st costume guides, AT-AT driver helmets/armour can be white/light grey, but the overalls have to be light grey. The minifigure would look really plain if this were the case, so TLG made the overalls sand blue to differentiate. An ideal AT-AT driver would have white helmet/armour and light grey overalls with printed straps.

 

I did away with the dark tan intelligence officer as there is no evidence in canon of it (TLG most likely made it whilst attempting the olive-grey colour for SW:Rebels). Advanced Weapons Research (e.g. Krennic) is under Military Intelligence, so white uniforms seem to make sense. I kept the old Snowtrooper because I'm fond of their moulded backpacks!

 

Ok so lets say the old AT-AT Pilot Colourization is true to the theatrical version of Star Wars, while the new AT-AT Pilot is closer to the up-to-date Version of Star Wars... would make both viable and "canon" to me 

And from there the new one wins by a landside since the latest printed design is so much better and more detailed!

 

Regarding the tan officers: Arent they featured in Legends? I saw a couple of pictures with them, just not sure if it is fanart or officially star wars. And besides, which longtime Star Wars fan gives a damn about what Disney considers canon or not?  

Edited October 16, 2017 by BigEl

[That Orange Thing]

The attention to detail you've put into this is outstanding and I too prefer older prints on some figures, such as Dengar.

You have stated that colour palette is incorrect and reference the Adywan version of the film as a source to be used. Isn't that counter-intuitive? That version of the film is a fan edit that is trying to update Star Wars to look like a more modern polished film with extra sounds, models, lighting and all sorts and not restore it to its original theatre state. 

As for the tan office, I like them as it's the only version of an imperial office you can get in any significant numbers cheaply 

 

[BigEl]

19 minutes ago, That Orange Thing said:

 

As for the tan office, I like them as it's the only version of an imperial office you can get in any significant numbers cheaply 

 

He also adds some color to the mostly White, Grey and Black Uniforms of the Empire!

[Renegade Clone]

1 hour ago, That Orange Thing said:

The attention to detail you've put into this is outstanding and I too prefer older prints on some figures, such as Dengar.

You have stated that colour palette is incorrect and reference the Adywan version of the film as a source to be used. Isn't that counter-intuitive? That version of the film is a fan edit that is trying to update Star Wars to look like a more modern polished film with extra sounds, models, lighting and all sorts and not restore it to its original theatre state. 

As for the tan office, I like them as it's the only version of an imperial office you can get in any significant numbers cheaply 

 

I've got Adywan's on the brain since the release of ESB:R! A better way to put it is that the various fan edits, in particular Harmy's Despecialised version, aspire to restoring the original colour grading, contrast and saturation (i.e. removing the pink-faced fleet troopers and Vader's pink lightsaber, introduced in the 2004 masters). Even Adywan begins his edits by putting things back to the original theatrical / 1993 Laserdisc release as best as possible. I grew up with the unaltered VHS copies, so the originals are my go to version 

Edited October 16, 2017 by Renegade Clone

[INDYcec]

I really love these! I’d buy a poster! Hint hint...

[That Orange Thing]

ooh, Ardywan has an ESB version out. I will have to try and track that down as i really enjoyed the New hope revisited edition.

[Robianco]

I love things like this. I've actually started to pick up a few Hot Toys / Sideshow figures and are mostly Imperials (although Han and Chewie are a must).

The only Sideshow figure I have was the recent AT-AT Driver and he also had the light grey overalls and helmet/breathing gear. I was looking around and someone had a prop from ESB and I was surprised how grey it was... not even close to white. The screen bleaching from the early films really took that out of it... the attempt to add things like that back in with the over saturation was quite ham fisted.

As much as the original Lego version shown with these figures reminds me of my original Kenner figure I actually much prefer the new colour scheme even with the sand blue. Strangely it may not seem screen accurate but may have actually been more accurate to what the actors were wearing.

[Matteoc]

-Hi !

 

 

what about to update your beautiful poster with (1) -Han Solo- in Imperial Army Uniform -mudtrooper- (Han Solo: a Star Wars story)?

 

(2) I also found ( movie) a Death Star Trooper with the classical big black helmet but with an unusual dark grey imperial suit.

 

https://www.starwars.com/databank/death-star-troopers

Edited November 20, 2018 by Matteoc

[Darth Bjorn]

Inspired by a lot of you guys, I wanted to create my own overview. 

 

[Mandalorianknight]

9 hours ago, Darth Bjorn said:

Inspired by a lot of you guys, I wanted to create my own overview. 

 

Very well-made!

[roadstermatt]

nice work

[Daddy_Stardust]

Very nicely done, however off the top of my head I can see you missed out the Imperial V-Wing pilot and the Imperial cargo pilot (Bodhi Rook).

Edited November 26, 2019 by Daddy_Stardust

[Darth Bjorn]

On 11/26/2019 at 8:26 AM, Daddy_Stardust said:

Very nicely done, however off the top of my head I can see you missed out the Imperial V-Wing pilot and the Imperial cargo pilot (Bodhi Rook).

Good points! I’ll add them ASAP.. ;)

[Omand]

Not an expert on the rank insignia, but I think you have an error or disconnect somwehere in your Non-Com section there Darth Bjorn.  Colonel is not a Non-Commissioned rank in any military structure in the real world, and I don't believe in the Star Wars universe as well.  Listing Juno Ecipse (I think that is the mini-fig) as a Non-Com is therefore an error.

Of course, the subject matter is not always the greatest, there was the Return of the Jedi costuming error where all Imperial Officers on screen were given the same rank plaques.  If a source somewhere calls Juno a non-com, is that now Legends continuity as well?

Just some thoughts to help you improve on an otherwise very impressive collection and chart.

Cheers

[Darth Bjorn]

5 hours ago, Omand said:

Not an expert on the rank insignia, but I think you have an error or disconnect somwehere in your Non-Com section there Darth Bjorn.  Colonel is not a Non-Commissioned rank in any military structure in the real world, and I don't believe in the Star Wars universe as well.  Listing Juno Ecipse (I think that is the mini-fig) as a Non-Com is therefore an error.

Of course, the subject matter is not always the greatest, there was the Return of the Jedi costuming error where all Imperial Officers on screen were given the same rank plaques.  If a source somewhere calls Juno a non-com, is that now Legends continuity as well?

Just some thoughts to help you improve on an otherwise very impressive collection and chart.

Cheers

Thanks... I totally agree with you on the rank insignia, but wookiepedia says the following: While the standard-issue uniforms were made of a gray-green fabric, there existed several variants of different colors, such as a black variant worn by noncoms[1] and Stormtrooper officers. Maybe that's a stretch - or Juno a special case?

Thanks for the feedback.  Much appreciated...