New races of Historica: Ideas

[Mike S]

The Chima Eagles in Avalonia could quite easily be descendants of the ones in the Nestlands clans.

Or the Nestland clans could be descendants of the Avalonian eagles. Or they could be related but yet a different race (like golden eagle, bald eagle, etc.)

I'm sure that every race can be found in all the guilds but like you said rarity will differ. I can't imagine the croc race being in Mitgardia due to the cold but they are found in Nocturnus even perhaps more so than in Kaliphlin. Also I imagine rarity will change in the guilds as members of the different races migrate to different places for various reasons.

[Lord Vladivus]

Or the Nestland clans could be descendants of the Avalonian eagles. Or they could be related but yet a different race (like golden eagle, bald eagle, etc.)

I'm sure that every race can be found in all the guilds but like you said rarity will differ. I can't imagine the croc race being in Mitgardia due to the cold but they are found in Nocturnus even perhaps more so than in Kaliphlin. Also I imagine rarity will change in the guilds as members of the different races migrate to different places for various reasons.

Exactly what I was thinking. My main point is, we haven't assigned certain human factions (eg. Black Falcons, Crownies, etc) as being specific to a certain guild, but some certainly crop up in guilds more frequently. I envisage a similar thing with races!

[Rogue Angel]

I envision the crocs as inhabiting both Kaliphlin and Nocturnus, the eagles as inhabiting the high places in pretty much every guild, the Drow, Orcs and Goblins infesting every guild.. I hate the fact that all of the lions of Chima have the stupid helmets, so I have not used them.

The lands that certain races inhabit would almost never match guild borders in my mind, it's just that some of them prefer certain guilds or climes (Nocturnus) and some have such a small localized population that they only exist in one guild (that is known so far). Remember too that there are large portions of every guild that does not have constant or even occasional contact with the outside world, and there are plenty of surprises yet to be discovered.

[Mike S]

I hate the fact that all of the lions of Chima have the stupid helmets, so I have not used them.

I don't use the "helmets" of any Chima fig except for masks. Being humanoid, I don't see the point in distinguishing their head shapes any more than "human" minifigs, so all my Chima figs wear normal minifig hats and hair. An example of the lions would be my Puss no Boots character. I need to post a pic of my Leander regiment.

Edited January 25, 2014 by Mike S

[HammerBro]

I agree. I really want something like a wolf helmet that was closer to the regular medieval helmets, but still had wolf head elements. The Chima ones seem too much like an animal to me.

[gedren_y]

The Nestlands Clans are human. They worship the Armored Eagle Goddess. They believe the land they inhabit is their fabled Nest of Metals, where they believe they will find the Egg of the Goddess. Once found, the Goddess will return to flesh form. (I am in the process of designing a large figure Goddess and Egg, but some of the parts I need are rare and expensive.)

The various bird peoples are considered by the Nestlands Clans to be descended from great heroes of the past who were blessed by the pure bird spirit. This is all Clan mythology, though. Since they are not true birds, they may be fought, but most clans-members would prefer not to.

[Mike S]

Here is a proselytized band of Varlyrian Leander who now fight under the banner of the Knights of Aslan and for Kaliphlin.

Leander Band by -Mike S-, on Flickr

[MKJoshA]

Here is a proselytized band of Varlyrian Leander who now fight under the banner of the Knights of Aslan and for Kaliphlin.

Leander Band by -Mike S-, on Flickr

That's good. I like that. And I've always been a fan of your Puss no Boots character.

Edited January 26, 2014 by kabel
no reason to quote the full pic one post below!

[mrcp6d]

Here is a proselytized band of Varlyrian Leander who now fight under the banner of the Knights of Aslan and for Kaliphlin.

Oooh, those are nice!

[Rogue Angel]

I reckon it would be worth approaching this so that we didn't pigeonhole certain races in certain guilds. Some might be more likely to turn up in some guilds, but it shouldn't preclude them from others. The Chima Eagles in Avalonia could quite easily be descendants of the ones in the Nestlands clans.

Perhaps a listing of rarity within each guild- for example, orcs are common in Nocty, but less common in the other guilds? Or Forest elves are common in Avalonia, but rare in Nocturnus?

I missed your second paragraph the first time through. We don't want to be specific with any of this (rarity) because it all depends on who joins each guild. If someone joins Avalonia and wants to have a splinter sect of Werewolves, that is completely fine, and this might change the rarity from "Very rare" to "Uncommon", and we don't want to discourage people from using whatever they want. I would guess that a lot of people would expect Elves to be mainly in Avalonia, while I think of them as being in every guild. It's all how you want to see it, or more correctly - build it.

[Lord Vladivus]

I missed your second paragraph the first time through. We don't want to be specific with any of this (rarity) because it all depends on who joins each guild. If someone joins Avalonia and wants to have a splinter sect of Werewolves, that is completely fine, and this might change the rarity from "Very rare" to "Uncommon", and we don't want to discourage people from using whatever they want. I would guess that a lot of people would expect Elves to be mainly in Avalonia, while I think of them as being in every guild. It's all how you want to see it, or more correctly - build it.

That's a good point. I don't want to pigeonhole races into certain guilds. (I'd love to see a whole group of Avalonian werewolves now. That would be cool!). I definitely think that we need to emphasise the breadth of races in Historica- it would be good to see more variety in terms of races with sig-figs (I know there is some, but humans and elves seem to outnumber all the rest, not that that's a bad thing!). Perhaps not necessarily with your main guy, but in your cast of supporting characters/army etc.

[MKJoshA]

I think with the continuation of the Chima line we will begin to see more and more variety. Case-in-point are the Raven sig-figs that have had some great builds in Nocturnus.

[Lord Vladivus]

I do agree we're seeing them more in Nocty- I was thinking more of other guilds.

[Duvors]

Has anyone thought that the nodules on the Chima spiders heads are extra eyes?

[SkaForHire]

O, I didn't know that. Is it ok that I use them and just change their story?

Of course, they don't even really have to be the same race, but some similarities would probably be good.

I envision the crocs as inhabiting both Kaliphlin and Nocturnus, the eagles as inhabiting the high places in pretty much every guild, the Drow, Orcs and Goblins infesting every guild.. I hate the fact that all of the lions of Chima have the stupid helmets, so I have not used them.

Agreed with the helmets, I also wish Chima were not marked up like they were licensed or something...

Here is a proselytized band of Varlyrian Leander who now fight under the banner of the Knights of Aslan and for Kaliphlin.

Leander Band by -Mike S-, on Flickr

Um, brilliant? I see another name change, and this one doesn't have MK initials.... Quit confusing us all!

[MKJoshA]

I see another name change, and this one doesn't have MK initials.... Quit confusing us all!

Did my name change without me knowing it?

[gedren_y]

Did my name change without me knowing it?

He's referring to Mike S, who has had several name changes.

Back on topic. Chima parts make for awesome creature variation, but I agree, some of the head pieces are just ridiculous.

An accounting of all the races of Historica, and their dispersion, is a must, but how to do it is the issue. This is a list that would need to be continually be updated. A thread on this board would get lost, or become overlong. A dedicated page on the wiki, with a subset listing is probably the way to go. All the sign-up/discussion pages could have a direct link. The people who create new races, or a new sub-species or sub-culture of an existing race could do the additions themselves.

[HammerBro]

I think this is a direction to consider. With what gedren describes, people don't have to go through a lengthy process to add a race. But, some may not want to take the time to account for detailed bios on these new races and or their frequency in the guilds. After thinking about it, I believe adding the index to the wiki has more advantages than disadvantages, primarily because it wouldn't be adding onto the workload of the mods who would have to update the thread constantly.

[TheUtilityBelt]

This is way of the subject, but this is one of the best battles of Star Wars!

One of the best battles of the SW saga by TheUtilityBelt32, on Flickr

Hahahaha!

[MKJoshA]

Not to get off the getting off topic But while I like how creative all the Chima figures are, I'm a little hesitant about seeing them play a huge role in GoH. It's fun to see them every now and then, but I personally like them more in the background. GoH is a world full of mythical and fantasy creatures, but I feel like Chime figs add too much fantasy to the world. Call me a racist or a xenophobe, but that's my 2 cents worth.

[-Carson Haupt-]

Not to get off the getting off topic But while I like how creative all the Chima figures are, I'm a little hesitant about seeing them play a huge role in GoH. It's fun to see them every now and then, but I personally like them more in the background. GoH is a world full of mythical and fantasy creatures, but I feel like Chime figs add too much fantasy to the world. Call me a racist or a xenophobe, but that's my 2 cents worth.

I agree.

[TheUtilityBelt]

I agree.

I agree.

[MKJoshA]

And the "Ayes" have it ladies and gentlemen!

[Duvors]

Not to get off the getting off topic But while I like how creative all the Chima figures are, I'm a little hesitant about seeing them play a huge role in GoH. It's fun to see them every now and then, but I personally like them more in the background. GoH is a world full of mythical and fantasy creatures, but I feel like Chime figs add too much fantasy to the world. Call me a racist or a xenophobe, but that's my 2 cents worth.

It's a little to late for that now.

[The Architect]

And the "Ayes" have it ladies and gentlemen!

Aye!