LEGO Hobbit 2014

[Missing Brick]

After watching the trailer I feel a bit insulted, how Peter is using Billy Boyds great singing from a very heavy scene in LOTR, genuinly moving one too and applying it to this awful CGI cashgrab. You know that the silly "Bard races around on a cart" will be a 10 minute action scene.

Spot on. Peter Jackson's done a Lucas. Looks like yet another CGI fest with cheap plastic sets, made-up padding characters & scenes that serve no purpose except to boost the running time. Not to mention rubbish looking CGI orcs. There's more atmosphere in 10 seconds of live action from the LOTR Amon Hen battle than the entire Hobbit trilogy so far. You could literally hear a pin drop in the theatre when Aragon chopped Lurtz's head off. Here's hoping for a final wave of LOTR sets.

[nymmerod]

After the Trailer I hope we see: Armoured Thorin, Armoured Thranduil, Bolg, Elf warriors, Iron hill dwarves, Elrond, Galadriel, Blue coated bard, Armoured orcs, Injured Gandalf (if we have to have one), Dain ironfoot, Legolas (casual), Tauriel (casual), Bain, Witch King. Those along with the ones in the erebor set would make the perfect wave.

In my opinion, most of these are very likely except Legolas (casual) and Injured Gandalf. So your hopes (and mine) will probably be satisfied. I'm really hoping TLG doesn't consider the elves from Mirkwood Elf Army good enough to satisfy our need for the BOTFA elves.

A super far-fetched thing I would love is to see some of the AUJ prologue figures come to fruition somehow: Old Bilbo, Thrain and Thror. I love those designs from the video game. I'm hoping for at least Old Bilbo to end up as an exclusive with a DVD or something.

[kevkipo]

Some minifig clues from the 3DS:

I don't want to rub it in anyone's face (Kevkipo! :P) but these designs I posted on page 67 were EXACTLY what has been revealed in the Lonely mountain set for armored Kili and Fili. The 3DS game also had the exact designs for armored Balin and Dwalin.

I will further note that the Mountain Bilbo was in the game too. And there are no other new variations of Bilbo in the game with his mithril coat showing. The Bilbo versions in the game we haven't seen yet are the gold vest one I posted, which is the same as the blue coat bluray one with his blue coat taken off. And Lake-town Bilbo which is just his head and small dark red legs on the Guard torso. And one called Beige Bilbo which I can't really place but looks very similar to the gold vest one. So maybe no new Bilbos?

This all leads me to believe, however, that the armored Thorin in the 3DS Lego game is likely a real design. Especially after seeing the trailer where he is wearing the same crown. I'm hoping it will be part of the BOTFA set. I will also note that none of the other dwarves have armored variants in the game. So I think any other armored dwarf of the company is unlikely.

I assume the gold Elrond in the game is the Elrond we will see in the small Dol Guldur set.

Well it seems you are right i think i need to apologize for thinking they where made up by the game designers!

You can rub it in, i deserve it.

i hope so badly we will see battle Rams in the BO5A set!

Spot on. Peter Jackson's done a Lucas. Looks like yet another CGI fest with cheap plastic sets, made-up padding characters & scenes that serve no purpose except to boost the running time. Not to mention rubbish looking CGI orcs. There's more atmosphere in 10 seconds of live action from the LOTR Amon Hen battle than the entire Hobbit trilogy so far. You could literally hear a pin drop in the theatre when Aragon chopped Lurtz's head off. Here's hoping for a final wave of LOTR sets.

And go hope for that on your own forum, don't mean to be rude or something but if you want to blacken The Hobbit please go do that somewhere else. because there are people on this The Hobbit forum who still do love The Hobbit!

That could work. but remember everythign looks flat and off in the game. legos gold printing is shiny and vivid for example.

But he migth deserve a breastplate like Theoden did. yea

Well, its the same armor as Thror ;)

By the way Deskp how come on your Flickr page Fili and Dwalin have brown legs? in the set they have green and blue legs

the brown legs look much better

[deskp]

By the way Deskp how come on your Flickr page Fili and Dwalin have brown legs? in the set they have green and blue legs

the brown legs look much better

Thats why.

[BrickBob Studpants]

@nymmerod: Thanks for bringing this up, that's a pretty clear indication that we might the crowned version of Thorin However, does anyone know if there's a limit as to how many new moulds a set can contain at the most? Is it realistic to expect Crowned Thorin, Mirkwood Elf soldiers, Iron Hill Dwarves and a battle ram on top of the already confirmed Dain II based on the amount of moulds they would require?

[Blakstone]

Lego-Freak, the best way I heard it described this that each wave gets a budget of changes they can make. Items such as new molds count more than new printing and existing bricks in new or uncommon colors.

I believe that each line gets a different budget for changes and the managers for that line utilize them differently as well.

We don't know what the change budget is for any of these lines though.

My hope is that there is both polybags of an army builder and a main character last the last two waves. It would be awesome to have a Toys R Us or Target store exclusive that we have not heard about yet.

Otherwise, we roughly know the contents of the four sets from the London Toy Fair. LEGO gave enough info there so that corporate buyers would know what the wave would be and could decide if they want to carry the sets. Smaug was not done yet so they used a standin. However, there was no mention of any wagons or bears so I don't think we will get that.

I just really want a new dwarf soldier mold or elf warrior mold. I don't think we will get both. It just looks unlikely that there will be room for them in any of the two sets we don't have all the minifigure info on.

Edited July 29, 2014 by Blakstone

[Deathleech]

Lord of the Rings Online has been using rams as mounts since the Mines of Moria expansion in 2008. I'd say this was likely borrowed from there if anything as this is a licensed WB property. Having said that, I'm very happy they decided to go with these over the boars.

And World of Warcraft came out with dwarves who had Ram in 2004 which was four years earlier than that

However, does anyone know if there's a limit as to how many new moulds a set can contain at the most? Is it realistic to expect Crowned Thorin, Mirkwood Elf soldiers, Iron Hill Dwarves and a battle ram on top of the already confirmed Dain II based on the amount of moulds they would require?

I think Bolg is the only one we can realistically expect to have a new mold (if we even get him...). I dunno about a crowned Thorin, if we were going to get him wouldn't he have been in the Erebor set so he can sit on his throne (even for a tiny bit? ). I suppose it depends on how he is portrayed in the movies the most, but I assume he will be without crown since that means one less new mold for Lego AND that is probably how he will be through most of the movie fighting and such. As for the dwarves and elves, I am thinking they might just get re-used Gimli helmets re-colored and elf ears and hair instead of crowns. Not perfect but I am not sure Lego will be able to justify new molds for them. Heck, who even knows if we are getting them in Lego form at this point. The Bo5A set seems to be the only set they could feasibly be placed in and it already looks like it is going to be jam packed with other characters (Bolg, Dain, armor Thranduil, Thorin...)

[BrickBob Studpants]

@Deathleech: Maybe the crown is the reason why Thorin's not in the Erebor set - that one already has enough new moulds to cost TLG an arm and a leg You're right though, TLG usually try to avert the production of expensive new moulds unless they're necessary (case in point: Smaug). I also agree on your point about the Iron Hill Dwarves, Gimli's helmet in dark gray should work just fine (the beard on the other hand might turn out to be a problem unless they're willing to reuse Gimli's beard as well). Bolg is pretty much guaranteed to appear in either 79016 or 79017 since he's by far the most important character among the ones still that are still missing (Alfrid, Percy, Bard's daughters, the three Trolls etc.) and his omission in 79014 is a pretty clear sign of his appearance in this wave. My money is on 79016; since neither Bard or Bain are expected to feature unique moulds the new one in that particular set should go to Bolg I guess we can expect a 30$ set to feature at least one new mould... right?

[Lancethecat]

We know for sure that we are going to get Thorin and Dain in the Bo5A set, probably along with an armored Thranduil, an Iron Hills dwarf, and/or Beorn in bear form, with enough orcs to balance them out (I'm guessing Azog's going to make an appearance with his white Warg).

It's harder to tell with the Lake Town set because there's no knowing yet which scene it's going to depict. Bard and Bain we already know about, but plenty of other characters (Tauriel, Bolg) would fit into a Lake Town setting. Alfrid seems too obscure and unimportant to be made into an actual minifigure.

[Shroffy123]

MofS an obscure character too ;)

[Hypernova888]

Yeah, I have to say, I really want an Alfrid minifig.

Edited July 30, 2014 by Hypernova888

[kevkipo]

MofS an obscure character too ;)

MofS?

[Courleciel]

It is a shame that the new Erebor set does not contain at least one or two other minifigs. For instance, I would have liked to get Thorin and Bombur in their Laketown outfit (in the video game, the rest of the company of Dwarves uses the Laketown soldier's torso) :

[Lynx]

We know for sure that we are going to get Thorin and Dain in the Bo5A set,

How 'sure' can we be about this? Are we assuming based on our perception of important characters, has there been a semi-reliable source or do we have any official word from LEGO? I'd love to get a LEGO Dain and kingly Thorin (preferably with Theoden-like breastplate)! If the inclusion of Dain is an actual certainty, do you know anything about a molded boar or ram included in the set?

[Slobey]

MofS?

Mouth of Sauron...

[wesker]

How 'sure' can we be about this? Are we assuming based on our perception of important characters, has there been a semi-reliable source or do we have any official word from LEGO? I'd love to get a LEGO Dain and kingly Thorin (preferably with Theoden-like breastplate)! If the inclusion of Dain is an actual certainty, do you know anything about a molded boar or ram included in the set?

Check the first page of the thread. Dain has been reported by two sources from the London Toy Fair. Nothing else has been confirmed for the BOFA set though.

[BrickBob Studpants]

Nothing else has been confirmed for the BOFA set though.

...except for this tiny bit of information (taken from bigospedros Toy Fair report) that can now be looked at in a different light after the reveal of the Erebor set: A £59.99 Battle Of The Five Armies set, comes with a few figs {...}

"A few" doesn't sound that great, since according to said report, 79018 also has "a few" minifigs To me, this sounds like we shouldn't expect more than 6 minifigs

[Lynx]

Check the first page of the thread. Dain has been reported by two sources from the London Toy Fair. Nothing else has been confirmed for the BOFA set though.

Thanks, wesker!

[kevkipo]

It is a shame that the new Erebor set does not contain at least one or two other minifigs. For instance, I would have liked to get Thorin and Bombur in their Laketown outfit (in the video game, the rest of the company of Dwarves uses the Laketown soldier's torso) :

Too much purple for me... they are OK but still a lot of Purple

...except for this tiny bit of information (taken from bigospedros Toy Fair report) that can now be looked at in a different light after the reveal of the Erebor set: A £59.99 Battle Of The Five Armies set, comes with a few figs {...}

"A few" doesn't sound that great, since according to said report, 79018 also has "a few" minifigs To me, this sounds like we shouldn't expect more than 6 minifigs

A few... Thorin, Dain 2x Iron Hill soldiers + 1 Battle Ram and 1 orc (maybe bolg or azog)

TLG you have just sold me a set :D

[AFOLguy1970]

We know three things about the BOFA set:

(1) We know Dain is in it

(2) Because Thorin is not in the Lonely Mountain set, there is a very strong possibility he will be in it.

(3) There was a report of a molded creature in it. Let the speculation begin whether or not it is a warg, ram, eagle, large bear, stag, etc.

If it does not have a lot of minifigs, then Dain and Thorin likely occupy two slots already. You do need at least a couple of bad guys. My guess would be one generic orc and one named one, either Bolg or a repeat of Azog. As much as I would like to get a generic Iron Hills dwarf, it does not look good with two other dwarves already in the set. This is a set with the title Battle of FIVE armies. Dwarves vs orcs is a bit less than that. I would think you will see one elf, maybe Thranduil. Don't forget, we could also get the obligatory Gandalf. The trailer also gave Legolas and Tauriel some focus. I just do not see this as an army builder set. Except for maybe a generic orc, look for main characters, ala Black Gate.

[deskp]

(3) There was a report of a molded creature in it.

? I think it's just people expect it, since they also were expecting a large army pack..

No report mentioned a molded creature.

[Alcarin]

Battle of the five armies wil lbarely have anything I bet.....

I expect:

Dain

Thorin

Thraunduil

Azog

2x generic orc (with hairpieces)

the end.

[BrickBob Studpants]

That actually doesn't sound too bad However, I would replace Azog with Bolg (or alternatively put the latter in 79016) and I'd definitely add an animal of some sorts (be it a ram, a warg or even Beorn ) but other than that I'd be quite happy if this was the actual minifig roster

[Risgrynsgrot]

So the final Hobbit Wave will most likely be the saddest and most disappoint wave of sets I've experienced with LEGO. Good job!

[kevkipo]

Battle of the five armies wil lbarely have anything I bet.....

I expect:

Dain

Thorin

Thraunduil

Azog

2x generic orc (with hairpieces)

the end.

I think Thranduil has made it's end, they have covered him so that's all good. i think they are going to make room for new characters

Dain

Thorin

1 Iron Hill dwarf

1 Elf (because it wont be the battle of the FIVE armies without one)

1 Orc

a battle Ram for Dain or the Dwarf Soldier to ride

So the final Hobbit Wave will most likely be the saddest and most disappoint wave of sets I've experienced with LEGO. Good job!

You and your negativity... it makes me sad