Alfadas Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 maybe I am the only one but I would be happy with the bear mold we already have Well, you are not the only one. I think with just different printing, it would be a great Beorn. Quote
Blakstone Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Agreed. I would have already used the existing bear mold but I cannot find one for a reasonable price. Also a new print would make it better. Unfortunately I do not recall anyone mentioning an animal mold during the London Toy Fair. I would love it if they had it though. Quote
Hypernova888 Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Well, you are not the only one. I think with just different printing, it would be a great Beorn. Yeah, if moulded in dark brown and the eyes were given similar printing to the one in the video game, that would make an excellent Beorn. The only main difference I think a specially moulded be bear would have would be Beorn's hair plume-y thing, also like in the video game. Quote
Alfadas Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Well, the current bear mold has studs on his back, so you could put a brick on them. Although that would require a new mold. Quote
legofreak86 Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) I know some people want to army build but the hobbit line is to advertise the movie scenes. They will want named characters in the battle of the five armies as when their target market watches the film they won't remember generic elves,orcs, dwarves. They will remember the main characters as in the movies they don't focus on random soldiers fighting in huge battle sequences. They switch focus between various main characters in the battles. Most who watch the film will be focussing on Thorin, Bilbo, the company, Gandalf, thranduil and the rest of the heroic characters and the villains. They will recall those characters more. This is why the Black gate set comes with Gandalf and Aragorn as they are the two biggest important characters in that sequence and sure they are fighting against generic orcs which always appear in sets but it makes sense to lego to focus on the main characters as they are the selling point. It will be disappointing if there isn't armies of dwarves and elves but no more disappointing than only 3 chitauri for the avengers to fight. No more disappointing than no dark elves at all made from Thor 2 in the marvel line. Yes its disappointing if its the case but at ver least the set will accurately show the scene/s from the point of view of the main character figures. Personally I hope for 2 of each army figure but I am starting to think that is unlikely. I prefer main characters but as this is a large scale battle you need to have regular soldiers at some point. Either way I will be happy with the set as long as it is interesting and accurate to the scenein the film and has some good figures. Edited July 31, 2014 by legofreak86 Quote
nymmerod Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 ...Gimli's helmet in dark gray should work just fine (the beard on the other hand might turn out to be a problem unless they're willing to reuse Gimli's beard as well).... Just wanted to note that Dwalin's beard is also compatible with the Gimli helmet. It's the one they use for the "Armored Dwarf Guard" in the video game and it works IRL too. (however the chest-plate piece could never fit under that beard like it does in the game). Quote
deskp Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 they wont use bearstplates. also the other dward beard work aswell. but i really hope they would use dwalins ebard cause that is the only one that shows off torso print. wich is essential. Quote
General Magma Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) Since the molded creature was apparently hard to identify, it's probably going to be the big battle ram. And Beorn would probably just use the existing bear mold, I don't think TLG is going to bother much with the figure scales, unfortunately. If they're going to make Beorn's bear version at all. In the movie, Beorn's normal form is huge but his LEGO figure is hardly taller than Bard, for instance. And Smaug is the same size as any other one of the more recent castle dragons, not as huge as his movie version is. So don't expect a gigantic bear to pop up out of the blue. Edited July 31, 2014 by General Magma Quote
azog15 Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 they wont use bearstplates. also the other dward beard work aswell. but i really hope they would use dwalins ebard cause that is the only one that shows off torso print. wich is essential. Why wont they use breastplates? Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Why wont they use breastplates? First off, the beards wouldn't fit over the armor, requiring an unnecessary new mould whose spot should go to something more useful and secondly, the four dwarves in the Erebor set don't have physical breastplates either, just printing @kevkipo: Thanks for the picture! Now we have a vague notion of what might await us Quote
SMC Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Since the molded creature was apparently hard to identify, it's probably going to be the big battle ram. And Beorn would probably just use the existing bear mold, I don't think TLG is going to bother much with the figure scales, unfortunately. If they're going to make Beorn's bear version at all. In the movie, Beorn's normal form is huge but his LEGO figure is hardly taller than Bard, for instance. And Smaug is the same size as any other one of the more recent castle dragons, not as huge as his movie version is. So don't expect a gigantic bear to pop up out of the blue. I don't think anyone was expecting a gigantic bear, the one from the game is the same size as the city one but was a new mold, no one saw one in London but I still hope we will get one, the city bear mold is fine so it would not cost a lot Quote
kevkipo Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 First off, the beards wouldn't fit over the armor, requiring an unnecessary new mould whose spot should go to something more useful and secondly, the four dwarves in the Erebor set don't have physical breastplates either, just printing @kevkipo: Thanks for the picture! Now we have a vague notion of what might await us No problem! but i was looking at something strange... i checked back some video's of the Windlance and The masters House... the part with the windlance on top, it is not a bell tower! or im missing something. Quote
TheLegoDr Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 I'd love a new molded creature, but maybe LEGO will pull a LEGO and give us brick built rams (similar to the brick built reindeer in the new Winter Village set). Everyone wanted molded deer for that, but they didn't get it. I highly doubt they will create rams for one set. The wargs at least were able to be used multiple times among all of Middle Earth. The ram will be used for this movie and nothing else (most likely). Quote
deskp Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 No problem! but i was looking at something strange... i checked back some video's of the Windlance and The masters House... the part with the windlance on top, it is not a bell tower! or im missing something. Check back on AUJ prologue and smaug has 4 legs. (theatrical) Quote
Blakstone Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 If they created molded elk for Bof5A, would they be able to reuse them as reindeer for the next holiday set. It appears the change budget for holiday is zero. Their Santas were horrible until they got a new print and mold from CMF and new they have elves thanks to CMF. If they already knew where they could leverage an elk mount, that might help us get one. I don't see another place for a ram mount. It is even worse than the warg since this will be the final wave for The Hobbit. Quote
deskp Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 (edited) I highly doubt they will create rams for one set. The wargs at least were able to be used multiple times among all of Middle Earth. The ram will be used for this movie and nothing else (most likely). You got 2 of these in a 169pieces/19.99$ set. and they came in no other set. Edited July 31, 2014 by deskp Quote
kevkipo Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Check back on AUJ prologue and smaug has 4 legs. (theatrical) ??? Quote
SMC Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 The point is, things change btween movies. but when they set out to make 3 films they should be better than this, its not like they made the first it did well and then they thought let make another, difference between LOTR and hobbit are more understandable Quote
Risgrynsgrot Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 but when they set out to make 3 films they should be better than this, its not like they made the first it did well and then they thought let make another, difference between LOTR and hobbit are more understandable Actually that's exactly what happened, they decided to make three movies instead of two in the middle of making them, probably one of the reason why the movies are a bit chaotic and worse than LOTR Quote
Teh Stud Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 After watching the trailer I feel a bit insulted, how Peter is using Billy Boyds great singing from a very heavy scene in LOTR, genuinly moving one too and applying it to this awful CGI cashgrab. You know that the silly "Bard races around on a cart" will be a 10 minute action scene. With that said - I'm really disappoint that we get Battle Goats instead of Battle Boars. I agree completely. I love the Lego sets... Great pieces, new weapons, great colors, awesome torsos to use for villagers, knights, and especially Orc tribes. The Hobbit movies... If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. :) Quote
SMC Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 Actually that's exactly what happened, they decided to make three movies instead of two in the middle of making them, probably one of the reason why the movies are a bit chaotic and worse than LOTR I know but that's not the same as having a big gap between films, even with the change to 3 films there is no reason for a lack of continuity Quote
Blakstone Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 SMC, actually there is one credible in universe explanation for the difference. The Hobbit is a story that Bilbo is telling. He is an unreliable narrator. This actually true to the books too. When Tolkien wrote The Hobbit, the first edition has Gollum willingly handing over the magic ring. When his publisher convinced Tolkien to write a follow up work, Tolkien rewrote the Riddles in the Dark chapter since the magic ring becomes the One Ring, Gollum would not willing hand over the ring. Tolkien also has Bilbo recount how he got the ring to The Council of Elrond in the Fellowship with an apology if they heard the story differently before. It is also truthful for Peter Jackson's films as The Fellowship of the Ring shows Bilbo stumbling in the dark and finding the ring (matches the later editions of the Book) but the first Hobbit film has him catching it on his finger. Bilbo continues to embellish his story with each retelling. But to the films, Peter Jackson keeps working on his special effects going up to the release date. So he had not finalized the design of Smaug and later changed his mind. It sounds like it was "corrected" in the DVDs though. The constant changing of Smaug's appearance apparently affected this LEGO appearance too. Quote
deskp Posted July 31, 2014 Posted July 31, 2014 It sounds like it was "corrected" in the DVDs though.The constant changing of Smaug's appearance apparently affected this LEGO appearance too. 1 thats the extendded editions. 2 the lack of source material is what affected the lego fig i would believe. that said there is really only 1 inaccuracy thats not simly based on legos style. Quote
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