bachamn Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 That Sauron looks NOTHING like his iconic armored self from the LotR prologue. It isn't supposed to. Also consider that since an armored Sauron belongs nowhere near The Hobbit storyline, short of an LotR Prologue set there would be nowhere for LEGO to place him.. As amazing as that set would be for most AFoLs, I feel like it's been mentioned that it wouldn't be one LEGO would actually produce due to the lack of identifiable main characters. I bet most people wouldn't even recognize that figure as Sauron if they weren't already Lego fans. I'm going to assume you meant to say "LotR fans". He looks more like some sort of ghoul or radioactive ape. Uh, what? Speak for yourself I guess. I find the Necromancer to be one of the most brilliantly conceptualized figures in the entire Tolkien LEGO line. Simplistic sure, but as accurate as one could expect it to be in LEGO form. I'll take clever execution over "big cool armored guy" any day. Just consider that it's what he looks like under the armor, that might help you feel better ;) I really wish Lego would of modeled him off of what we see in DoS You mean to say "would have". It's never, ever "would of". Just trying to help out. Quote
Shuebmabow Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Sorry but that's not possible, 8 dwarves when there are only 3 more sets in the final hobbit wave? We already know that one set will not have any dwarves so it's the remaining two sets. Unless Bard, Galadriel, Elrond and the Witchking suddenly become dwarves we won't see the full company redesigned for the third movie Lego sets. We are also at least getting Dain so that's another dwarf taking up the increasingly shrinking character slots. I don't think BoFA is called Battle of the Dwarves and the other people. We were taking about the DLC pack for the game...? I disagree for the same reason. Even in the DLC pack? It'd be somewhat ridiculous if the remaining 8 used their Laketown armor in the battle, as some actual Laketown soldiers will most likely be wearing that same armor. Maybe some generic iron hills dwarf armor, but either way, I'm going to keep hoping and believing that there will be a redo of all of the dwarves in the DLC. Quote
Deathleech Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 (edited) It isn't supposed to. Also consider that since an armored Sauron belongs nowhere near The Hobbit storyline, short of an LotR Prologue set there would be nowhere for LEGO to place him.. As amazing as that set would be for most AFoLs, I feel like it's been mentioned that it wouldn't be one LEGO would actually produce due to the lack of identifiable main characters. Actually... THIS is how Sauron appears in Desolation of Smaug, which the Lego set is based on. It actually would have made complete sense for Lego to use THIS version instead of the shadowy necromancer version they used (who doesn't even appear in DoS, he is in AUJ). Not only does he fit BETTER than the version Lego used, he closely resembles prologue Sauron. Lego could of killed two birds with one stone here... The only reason I don't think they used this version is because it was either added to late in production or Lego didn't want to splurge on a new mold. I'm going to assume you meant to say "LotR fans". Nope, I meant Lego fans. I am saying if you are a LotR fan, but not a Lego fan and saw that necromancer figure, you probably wouldn't even know it is Sauron. Uh, what? Speak for yourself I guess. I find the Necromancer to be one of the most brilliantly conceptualized figures in the entire Tolkien LEGO line. Simplistic sure, but as accurate as one could expect it to be in LEGO form. I'll take clever execution over "big cool armored guy" any day. Just consider that it's what he looks like under the armor, that might help you feel better ;) I am pretty sure you are the minority here. The resounding consensus was the necromancer version was extremely dull and boring when we first saw him. It was one of the few minifigures from the LotR or Hobbit line people weren't impressed with. Edited August 8, 2014 by Deathleech Quote
Blakstone Posted August 8, 2014 Posted August 8, 2014 Deathleech, I would assume that Peter Jackson came up with that look for him in DoS long after LEGO has finalized on the minifig design. Otherwise, they would have included that version in the DoS set. The late changes to character appearances have impacted the merchandising throughout. LotR hasn't been impacted since those movies have been out for quite some time before the sets were designed. Quote
Faefrost Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Actually... THIS is how Sauron appears in Desolation of Smaug, which the Lego set is based on. It actually would have made complete sense for Lego to use THIS version instead of the shadowy necromancer version they used (who doesn't even appear in DoS, he is in AUJ). Not only does he fit BETTER than the version Lego used, he closely resembles prologue Sauron. Lego could of killed two birds with one stone here... The only reason I don't think they used this version is because it was either added to late in production or Lego didn't want to splurge on a new mold. So we want one of those Mars Mission jellies? Only cast in trans red with gold glitter? (The sad thing is that might not look half bad?) They'd only have 8 dwarves maximum to redesign (they already have Balin, Dwalin, Fili, Kili, and Thorin done), so I think the chances are good that we will get new designs. I think we got the 4 or 5 that we are getting for a reason. They reflect the ones that the change of appearance and armor is critical. Balin and Dwalin are nobles who originally lived in Erebor. Fili and Kili are of the house of Durin, and Thorin's heirs. Thorin is the King Under the Mountain. They are the 5 that you expect and rather need in full Dwarven fighting armor. The rest of the company are low born, an assortment of merchants, tinkerers and thieves. Less at home in full war gear, and probably not really showcased in it as much. Probably not as drastic or as noticeable a change as with the nobles. I know we have a ton of Bilbo's. But I will be disappointed if we don't get a Mithril shirted Bilbo in one of these. Quote
Shuebmabow Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 So we want one of those Mars Mission jellies? Only cast in trans red with gold glitter? (The sad thing is that might not look half bad?) I think we got the 4 or 5 that we are getting for a reason. They reflect the ones that the change of appearance and armor is critical. Balin and Dwalin are nobles who originally lived in Erebor. Fili and Kili are of the house of Durin, and Thorin's heirs. Thorin is the King Under the Mountain. They are the 5 that you expect and rather need in full Dwarven fighting armor. The rest of the company are low born, an assortment of merchants, tinkerers and thieves. Less at home in full war gear, and probably not really showcased in it as much. Probably not as drastic or as noticeable a change as with the nobles. I know we have a ton of Bilbo's. But I will be disappointed if we don't get a Mithril shirted Bilbo in one of these. For the third time, I was talking about the DLC pack, not actual sets. I am fairly confident that we will only get the five that you mentioned in physical form, but I'd expect all 13 to be redone in the DLC. Quote
deskp Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 We were taking about the DLC pack for the game...? Even in the DLC pack? The videogame is discussed elsewhere. Quote
kevkipo Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) I think we got the 4 or 5 that we are getting for a reason. They reflect the ones that the change of appearance and armor is critical. Balin and Dwalin are nobles who originally lived in Erebor. Fili and Kili are of the house of Durin, and Thorin's heirs. Thorin is the King Under the Mountain. They are the 5 that you expect and rather need in full Dwarven fighting armor. The rest of the company are low born, an assortment of merchants, tinkerers and thieves. Less at home in full war gear, and probably not really showcased in it as much. Probably not as drastic or as noticeable a change as with the nobles. ^ That , it's very true and a good reason I was looking at the very cool new Santa Workshop (wich is a must buy for me ) and i noticed something If we don't get War Rams in the Bo5A set this could be a alternative, they already have a printed back piece and they are in good color, so with a bit modification and new horns etc. you can get a decent war ram! Edited August 9, 2014 by kevkipo Quote
SMC Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 ^ That , it's very true and a good reason I was looking at the very cool new Santa Workshop (wich is a must buy for me ) and i noticed something If we don't get War Rams in the Bo5A set this could be a alternative, they already have a printed back piece and they are in good color, so with a bit modification and new horns etc. you can get a decent war ram! I don't think that would work well next to a molded warg Quote
kevkipo Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 I don't think that would work well next to a molded warg Im not talking about putting it next to a molded warg, im talking about a War Ram on it's own And by the way it wouldn't look half as bad next to a warg... Quote
Shroffy123 Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 Yeah but those are reindeer and look nothing like a ram????? Quote
BrickBob Studpants Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 I don't think that would work well next to a molded warg I agree. TLG has been very consistent with this in the last couple of years, pretty much all LEGO vertebrates (including fictional creatures) I can think of have been moulded rather than brick-built. Invertebrates are being treated less consistently, here's the size that matters (small fish/spiders/squids etc -> moulded, big ones -> brick-built). The reindeers are the only exception that comes to mind, and the reason is quite obvious: it's an s@h exclusive, therefore new moulds are out of the question However I do like the look of them (especially the eyes that are very consistent with the other animals) but they would still look rather weird next to a horse for example. For consistency's sake, I'd definitely rather have moulded rams than brick-built ones Quote
Hypernova888 Posted August 9, 2014 Posted August 9, 2014 It isn't supposed to. Also consider that since an armored Sauron belongs nowhere near The Hobbit storyline, short of an LotR Prologue set there would be nowhere for LEGO to place him.. As amazing as that set would be for most AFoLs, I feel like it's been mentioned that it wouldn't be one LEGO would actually produce due to the lack of identifiable main characters. I'm going to assume you meant to say "LotR fans". Uh, what? Speak for yourself I guess. I find the Necromancer to be one of the most brilliantly conceptualized figures in the entire Tolkien LEGO line. Simplistic sure, but as accurate as one could expect it to be in LEGO form. I'll take clever execution over "big cool armored guy" any day. Just consider that it's what he looks like under the armor, that might help you feel better Yeah, Deathleech is right. Armoured Sauron wouldn't have really been out of place. That being said, I love the necromancer fig. He's very simple, but looks nice and is a good representation of the character, albeit the one from aUJ. Quote
kevkipo Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Yeah but those are reindeer and look nothing like a ram????? Didn't i mention Modding it a bit??? I'd definitely rather have moulded rams than brick-built ones I agree with you there Quote
Hypernova888 Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Didn't i mention Modding it a bit??? I agree with you there The only problem I see is building them as ridable. The reindeer are built with two 6x1x2 arches, but to do that for rams one would have to sacrifice ridability for shorter figured, i.e. dwarves. Quote
kevkipo Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 Well i have a solution to that, i wish i could show you but it's hard to explain... Here we go: The main thing is at first putting away the 2 1x2's on the top of the animal, then lower the feet with studs Now it's up to you to mod the feet of the shorter fig, Take a sitting dwarf take 2 1x1's with clip on top, and attach them to that piece with a stick like thing (it's very hard to explain like i said) and you have a sitting dwarf. I see what you mean there and indeed it would take it away, i really really hope for a new molded Ram (so i can buy 4 to put in front of my Chariot) and for the (maybe to come) Iron Hillers. I do think we will get molded Ram's because Billy Collony (Dain) was talking about riding a green screen animal. so maybe a ram for Dain to ride? Only time will tell... Quote
Lynx Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 This ram talk is making me nervous. I'd be really disappointed not to get Beorn in bear form in a set depicting the Battle of Five Armies. Quote
Deathleech Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 So we want one of those Mars Mission jellies? Only cast in trans red with gold glitter? (The sad thing is that might not look half bad?) I was imagining more of a black or dark gray for the armor with a lot of darker orange and red highlights around the shoulders/head. Quote
SMC Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 This ram talk is making me nervous. I'd be really disappointed not to get Beorn in bear form in a set depicting the Battle of Five Armies. me too I was imagining more of a black or dark gray for the armor with a lot of darker orange and red highlights around the shoulders/head. that sounds good Quote
Seaber Posted August 10, 2014 Posted August 10, 2014 http://thehobbit.lego.com/en-us/products/79018 Quote
Faefrost Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Has anyone figured out what the dragons wings are made of? It seems to shiny to be the normal sail cloth. Quote
Hypernova888 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Has anyone figured out what the dragons wings are made of? It seems to shiny to be the normal sail cloth. It appears to be some sort of rubber. Quote
kevkipo Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 http://thehobbit.leg.../products/79018 What? we haven't seen that before! It appears to be some sort of rubber. Yes, i think so too. very bendable thin rubber Quote
Seaber Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Sorry, didn't see the video posted anywhere so I thought people might have missed it. Quote
SandMirror38 Posted August 11, 2014 Posted August 11, 2014 Does anyone else think the new Santa's Workshop modified - Mostly changed to reddish brown - would fit into Laketown? Quote
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