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If it's a DoS Erebor, the dwarves would have all the old hair and beard pieces and just slightly different torso printing. They wouldn't be the armored versions. Sure it wouldn't be exciting or all that noticeable but hey, Lego gives them double sided heads when you can't even see the facial expressions so why not?

  On 1/25/2014 at 2:19 AM, Faefrost said:

I honestly don't think we will see Bolg. I think his on screen design changed too late in the process. Unless they decide to use Azog's head re colored with some radical printing? After all the grief with Yazneg they would probably just give as an extra regular Orc instead. Maybe at best we might see a bearded "Orc Champion" if the old Bolg design made it through the process to becoming a new mold.

Yeah, but the same thing happened with Azog and his minifig was still ready 6 months after AUJ hit theaters :wink: A simple recolor of the Azog mold wouldn't work because of the shoulder pads and those can't be left out that easily as they're integral to his design :sweet:

  On 1/25/2014 at 2:21 AM, Infernum said:

Oh? I thought the Smaug was the only finalized component, I was really wrong. I guess he could be brick-built then, but I wouldn't count on it.

I really wouldn't, if he was brick-built there would be no reason to have a molded Castle dragon as a stand-in :wink:

  On 1/24/2014 at 4:50 PM, Darth Punk said:

Yes, but the throne room with the arkenstone represents AUJ. According those who have seen the set there is an arkenstone hanging in the throne room. So unless PJ has changed the fate of the arkenstone it will be buried with Thorin and not end up in the throne room.

If this is true then the Lonely Mountain represents more than just TABA and could include anything or anyone from all three movies.

While this makes possible for Smaug to be included, it also makes other people who haven't been mentioned such as Thrain possible to be included.

If this is indeed the largest set and $130, almost twice the second most expensive set, I find it highly,unlikely it only represents one movie. And there is no reason it cannot represent the whole trilogy since a Lonely mountain set could be used for scenes from all three movies. That also might explain why it's an interior set, and not of the exterior.

The same can be said of Unexpected Gathering. Bag End. The set is meant to portray more than just the one scene. Yeah it has Bilbo and the Dwarves. It also has Bilbo's book, Sting on display, and Frodo's sealed letter with the ring. Among other details. Lego enjoys making sets that you can set in time as you will. So Erebor will probably have a place to put the Arkenstone above the throne, and the stone itself, so the small play oriented (45 year old) children that will be spending hours living out fantasy stories through it have the broadest possible options.

Just looking at my two LTC buildings I was wandering could it be that there is only 1 new Lake Town building in wave three (townhall) and that one was shown together with the two buildings from the Lake Town Chase set? Might explain the confusion wether there are 3 or only 1 building.

  On 1/25/2014 at 2:40 AM, Deathleech said:

If it's a DoS Erebor, the dwarves would have all the old hair and beard pieces and just slightly different torso printing.

The same thing goes for TABA dwarves though, They don't wear big armor that would need to be molded. Can only confirm that for, thorin, fili, kili, dwalin, ori, nori, dori, and bombur.

Besides even the ironhill armored dwarf soldiers doesen't need a mold for their torso armor.

  On 1/25/2014 at 8:24 AM, Tuinman said:

Just looking at my two LTC buildings I was wandering could it be that there is only 1 new Lake Town building in wave three (townhall) and that one was shown together with the two buildings from the Lake Town Chase set? Might explain the confusion wether there are 3 or only 1 building.

Hmm, the laketown set description does in some cases sound like it's jsut a tower..... Perhaps laketown is the 30$ set?!

Or maybe the other 2 buildings are from dale?!

  On 1/25/2014 at 8:29 AM, deskp said:

The same thing goes for TABA dwarves though, They don't wear big armor that would need to be molded. Can only confirm that for, thorin, fili, kili, dwalin, ori, nori, dori, and bombur.

Besides even the ironhill armored dwarf soldiers doesen't need a mold for their torso armor.

Hmm, the laketown set description does in some cases sound like it's jsut a tower..... Perhaps laketown is the 30$ set?!

Or maybe the other 2 buildings are from dale?!

- Maybe for the Iron Hill dwarves they can make the same thing as they did for bombur? a Beard/Armor piece? and then helmet on top? Or would they look fat then?

- Yeah maybe, i mean no one tought about that! it could be... as BO5A will probably take place in the ruïns of Dale, But an expansion of Lake-Town Esgaroth would also be great! Hard to choose! :sceptic:

Also i am on the Dain train when it comes to Bolg vs Dain!

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  On 1/25/2014 at 8:29 AM, deskp said:
The same thing goes for TABA dwarves though, They don't wear big armor that would need to be molded. Can only confirm that for, thorin, fili, kili, dwalin, ori, nori, dori, and bombur.

Well he was saying the armored versions may require new hair and beard molds for some of the dwarves. I was just pointing out none the DoS versions of the dwarves would require any new molds, they could all use the ones from wave 1 and just have different torso prints.

As for the Armenstone, I honestly wouldn't be surprised if PJ changed the story there and kept it out instead of having it be buried. If PJ added the part about it being needed to unite the seven dwarf clans, so I am sure Dain will want to it out.

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Darthpunk no probs. Also I must apologise for my method of replying as the quote button doesn't appear to work for me anymore. Yeah whichever set Smaug is in I will buy. Sounds to me as if erebor is based off all three movies with different features for each movie. Like Smaug and the forge for DOS, the throne for AUJ and whatever else for TABA.

  On 1/25/2014 at 2:28 PM, legofreak86 said:

Darthpunk no probs. Also I must apologise for my method of replying as the quote button doesn't appear to work for me anymore. Yeah whichever set Smaug is in I will buy. Sounds to me as if erebor is based off all three movies with different features for each movie. Like Smaug and the forge for DOS, the throne for AUJ and whatever else for TABA.

Yep.

Is there any chance bard will be in the laketown set? The laketown chase of 2013 really doesn't interest me that much but if the next one has bard and the windlance then that'd be great. Speaking of which I could see the lake town set figures going this way: Bard, Bain, Bofur, Tauriel (casual), Bolg, 2x orcs, lake town captain. Judging by the description of 3 buildings including the tower with the windlance. I strongly suspect that Smaug will appear in both sets. Erebor and lake town.

@legofreak86: Not a bad idea, actually :sweet: This way, the molds used for Smaug would give a better return and we could get two different prints/ facial expressions :thumbup: The latest Castle set that featured a molded dragon was about 40$ I believe, so price-wise it seems plausible too :wink: And since the dragon at the London Toy Fair was a stand-in anyway, it makes sense that there weren't two of them displayed :classic:

Edited by Lego-Freak

  On 1/25/2014 at 6:09 PM, legofreak86 said:

Is there any chance bard will be in the laketown set? The laketown chase of 2013 really doesn't interest me that much but if the next one has bard and the windlance then that'd be great. Speaking of which I could see the lake town set figures going this way: Bard, Bain, Bofur, Tauriel (casual), Bolg, 2x orcs, lake town captain. Judging by the description of 3 buildings including the tower with the windlance. I strongly suspect that Smaug will appear in both sets. Erebor and lake town.

What is windlance? In which language is that word? :D

What if the Smaug that comes with the Erebor set is golden? Assuming LEGO plans on releasing two Smaugs.

Who wants gold Smaug really ?

Who wants two of the same Smaug?

I think Smaug covered in molten gold would be pretty cool.

It would, but I guess that there will be only one Smaug model in the wave, And I guess that HE will be included in the largest set and that would be Lake Town - otherwise it makes no sense at all :)

If there would be two sets of four with Smaug, it will influence his rarity.

Blazej_holen: The windlance is a dwarvish weapon that fires black harpoon like arrows. It may be a large plot device in TABA for reasons I will not spoil for the benefit of those who have not seen DOS.

Also it is already confirmed that erebor is the largest set of the wave.

Edited by legofreak86

@azog15: Golden Smaug is only on screen for like 30 seconds, but good idea nonetheless :thumbup: It would be a great play feature ("help the dwarves drown Smaug in molten gold" :laugh_hard: )

Edited by Lego-Freak

  On 1/25/2014 at 6:37 PM, Blazej_Holen said:

It would, but I guess that there will be only one Smaug model in the wave, And I guess that HE will be included in the largest set and that would be Lake Town - otherwise it makes no sense at all :)

If there would be two sets of four with Smaug, it will influence his rarity.

Yes, if there is only ONE set with Smaug then gold would be ridiculous

smaug in 2 sets unlikely and weird, 2 diferent smaugs even weirder.......

Smaug covered in gold looked awfully fake in the movie and i disliekd that whole statue sequence so a golden smaug i would dispise x]

As for different expressions.... Only his eyes would change, lego dragons have mouths u can open and close so thats enuff.

I think only chanse for another smaug would be a d2c prestine Erebor(pre attack) or Dale.

  On 1/25/2014 at 6:37 PM, legofreak86 said:

Blazej_holen: The windlance is a dwarvish weapon that fires black harpoon like arrows. It may be a large plot device in TABA for reasons I will not spoil for the benefit of those who have not seen DOS.

Also it is already confirmed that erebor is the largest set of the wave.

I know what does it means, and I already saw DoS, but the word itself is kinda weird, I am fail to find it in any english vocabulary, that is the reason why I am askin´ u :)

I see, I apologise.I did not understand. It appears to be a made up term in the movie. A lance is in the English vocabulary as is wind. I guess they put them both together and said that sounds like a cool name for a plot device.

Edited by legofreak86

What do you guys think about a Beard/armor piece for the Iron Hill dwarves?

Wanna hear your toughts on it

Also what do you guys think Dain II will look like? Hmm?

  On 1/25/2014 at 7:30 PM, kevkipo said:

What do you guys think about a Beard/armor piece for the Iron Hill dwarves?

Wanna hear your toughts on it

Also what do you guys think Dain II will look like? Hmm?

In the third adaptation of The Hobbit trilogy by Peter Jackson, Dáin will be played by the Scottish comedian Billy Connolly. He will ride into battle upon a wild boar, and sport a mohawk, much like Dwalin in the battle of Azanulbizar. He has been described by Peter Jackson as "the toughest and staunchest of all the dwarves."

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