LEGO Hobbit 2014

[TheLegoDr]

Well, I missed out on pictures from EB since I took a few days off from the forums. But thankfully I found them elsewhere on the web.

I can understand everyone's disappointment. I was so hopeful for this theme, but the movies and sets have left a bad taste in my mouth. This wave is no exception. It is the icing on the proverbial cowpie...

The figure choices might be warranted, but I haven't seen the 2nd movie yet, nor will I probably see the 3rd when it comes out. Not because of lack of interest, but mostly time. I hardly have time to squeeze in anything else, I certainly don't have time for a 3+ hour movie...

So with that said, I don't care to own 3 Bards. I understand the playset idea and the target audience, but he's becoming like Gandalf and Lone Ranger now..is that really necessary?

I don't know who Bain is, so I don't really care to own him. I don't like the new orc hairpieces (I must be the only one). I don't need another Azog, even with a different print. It's like the Gollum or Hulk. Yes, it is "different" but it really isn't.

The dwarven soldier in the larger set might be useful, but I'm definitely not liking these prices. I wonder how many sales will happen though. I've picked up the entire theme when it was released the last two years for my birthday, but I almost want to ask for something else for my birthday this year.

And something I did notice, everyone talks about how a big molded creature is going to shoot up the price and ruin the price/piece ratio basically. Which is understandable. But look at Star Wars this year, with the Cantina. It has a giant dewback, 8 figures, almost 700 pieces for $70...explain that one! No other set ever seems to hit figures/molded creature/lots of pieces near that cost.

[Mahtion]

Well, I missed out on pictures from EB since I took a few days off from the forums. But thankfully I found them elsewhere on the web.

I can understand everyone's disappointment. I was so hopeful for this theme, but the movies and sets have left a bad taste in my mouth. This wave is no exception. It is the icing on the proverbial cowpie...

The figure choices might be warranted, but I haven't seen the 2nd movie yet, nor will I probably see the 3rd when it comes out. Not because of lack of interest, but mostly time. I hardly have time to squeeze in anything else, I certainly don't have time for a 3+ hour movie...

So with that said, I don't care to own 3 Bards. I understand the playset idea and the target audience, but he's becoming like Gandalf and Lone Ranger now..is that really necessary?

I don't know who Bain is, so I don't really care to own him. I don't like the new orc hairpieces (I must be the only one). I don't need another Azog, even with a different print. It's like the Gollum or Hulk. Yes, it is "different" but it really isn't.

The dwarven soldier in the larger set might be useful, but I'm definitely not liking these prices. I wonder how many sales will happen though. I've picked up the entire theme when it was released the last two years for my birthday, but I almost want to ask for something else for my birthday this year.

And something I did notice, everyone talks about how a big molded creature is going to shoot up the price and ruin the price/piece ratio basically. Which is understandable. But look at Star Wars this year, with the Cantina. It has a giant dewback, 8 figures, almost 700 pieces for $70...explain that one! No other set ever seems to hit figures/molded creature/lots of pieces near that cost.

So true! The cantina has only 1 rehash, Han Solo with all new prints. Poor neglected Hobbit theme gets only 3 new prints out of 7. Seems like Erebor set got all the new prints.

[djmangunz]

Focus is on the minifigs? WTF what kind of logic is that, if focus were truly on minifigs and repurchasing of the same set, we would get GENERIC troops not Bard, Legolas Azog and Thorin again

I would think that even you would have the common sense to notice the growing trend over the past 5 to7 years of Lego to use unique or desirable figures to sell a set. From Star Wars to Super Heros, more and more, the selling point of a set will often be the figures included. Case in point, the Guardians of the Galaxy sets spread the team over several sets to intice kids, who are still their main target audience, to buy them all in order to get all the characters from the movie.

I never insinuated that the Bot5A set was a glorified battle pack but rather that the large number of mini figs included was designed as a selling factor of the set.

[CastleDefender]

I would think that even you would have the common sense to notice the growing trend over the past 5 to7 years of Lego to use unique or desirable figures to sell a set. From Star Wars to Super Heros, more and more, the selling point of a set will often be the figures included. Case in point, the Guardians of the Galaxy sets spread the team over several sets to intice kids, who are still their main target audience, to buy them all in order to get all the characters from the movie.

I never insinuated that the Bot5A set was a glorified battle pack but rather that the large number of mini figs included was designed as a selling factor of the set.

I tink so far the best value for money set for hobbit is 79012, the mirkwood elf army. The set consist of 4 elves, 2 orcs and 1 brown warg for the price of 29.99 and sometimes will go even cheaper. It is seriously a very attractive set to buy for army builders. The minifigs and the accessories justify more than the price tag. I dun tink Bot5A is anywhere near.

[Masked Builder]

My favorite set is definitely the Lake-town add on set. The original was just so good looking. Over all I like all three but it's hard to see much in the BO5A set.

[deraven]

Just thought I'd throw this out there: I'm pretty sure Erebor is $120, not $130. If you look at the leaked price list, it's all USD and CAD prices, but for Erebor they're switched- it says $120CAD and $130USD when it should be the other way around, unless just that one set is more in the US than in Canada for some reason.

Not that $10 makes *that* much difference, but for $120 I'm slightly less underwhelmed. ;)

Edited August 15, 2014 by deraven

[Alcarin]

I would think that even you would have the common sense to notice the growing trend over the past 5 to7 years of Lego to use unique or desirable figures to sell a set. From Star Wars to Super Heros, more and more, the selling point of a set will often be the figures included. Case in point, the Guardians of the Galaxy sets spread the team over several sets to intice kids, who are still their main target audience, to buy them all in order to get all the characters from the movie.

I never insinuated that the Bot5A set was a glorified battle pack but rather that the large number of mini figs included was designed as a selling factor of the set.

Well if thats their intention they are failing it with AFOLs heavily especially those above 16 if not above 14 already....... I loved Dragon Knight sets in 1992, you know why? Cos there was not Majisto in EVERY set.....

Kids dont care that much for LOTR especially, not even for Hobbit, majority of kids watch Ninjago and Chima, the actual kids, those 12+ or 14+ or even 16+ care more for logical purchases and are not as easily enticed...... some stil lare but more and more are less and less inticed with having the same characters over and over again (that are named)

[Black Numenorean]

If you look the number of pcs in thr news sets, we can see that tlc decided to lower this number, maybe for reducing the price and selling a lot of them.

[Alcarin]

Just thought I'd throw this out there: I'm pretty sure Erebor is $120, not $130. If you look at the leaked price list, it's all USD and CAD prices, but for Erebor they're switched- it says $120CAD and $130USD when it should be the other way around, unless just that one set is more in the US than in Canada for some reason.

Not that $10 makes *that* much difference, but for $120 I'm slightly less underwhelmed. ;)

Well the only good thing (if that would be true) would be then it would be 120€ in Europe and with usual 30% off that would put the set below 90€ (86 to be precise) mark which would make it purchase worthy in my book......

30$ and 70$ sets I would only purchase if discounted for mroe thna 30%, Erebor is 30% and Witch King I would mass purchase for 30% off :)

Edited August 15, 2014 by Alcarin

[Gibbon]

Well the only good thing (if that would be true) would be then it would be 120€ in Europe and with usual 30% off that would put the set below 90€ (86 to be precise) mark which would make it purchase worthy in my book......

30$ and 70$ sets I would only purchase if discounted for mroe thna 30%, Erebor is 30% and Witch King I would mass purchase for 30% off :)

Only a technical question, may I ask you where these 30% off discount can be catched in Europe? Is it on a webstore (Amazon etc) or something? Here in Hungary I found these kinds of discount to be pretty rare in normal stores selling Lego products. Fortunately I was lucky enough to find 'The Attack of the Wargs' set on 50% off in one of the biggest supermarkets last December.

[The Real Walkers]

I guess a new question to ask is how many 'Battle of the Five Armies' sets people are going to buy now? Is there any repeat buying value?

[Lynx]

I guess a new question to ask is how many 'Battle of the Five Armies' sets people are going to buy now? Is there any repeat buying value?

I'll wait until the set is on sale. Then, I'll see how much Thorin and Dain would cost on brick link after shipping cost. If I feel that getting the rest of the set (parts and previously released characters) is worth the difference, I will buy one set. I see zero value in getting multiples of this set.

[Robianco]

I managed to pick up the whole of the last wave at 50% off in the UK so I'm hoping we'll get the same deals for these... Then they'll be worth it. Witch King Battle is the only first day purchase for me... The rest can wait until the discounts.

[wesker]

I guess a new question to ask is how many 'Battle of the Five Armies' sets people are going to buy now? Is there any repeat buying value?

Just one is enough for me. I'll probably pick up multiples of the two cheaper sets though.

[Mr. Cube]

0...I will just BL the minifigs. Sorry TLC.

[Alcarin]

Only a technical question, may I ask you where these 30% off discount can be catched in Europe? Is it on a webstore (Amazon etc) or something? Here in Hungary I found these kinds of discount to be pretty rare in normal stores selling Lego products. Fortunately I was lucky enough to find 'The Attack of the Wargs' set on 50% off in one of the biggest supermarkets last December.

Amazon Germany has had every hobbit set for 30%+ discount at some point...... its very simple, when you see Amazon carrying a set for 30%+ discount you buy it and NOT wait for a better discount.....

[Gibbon]

Amazon Germany has had every hobbit set for 30%+ discount at some point...... its very simple, when you see Amazon carrying a set for 30%+ discount you buy it and NOT wait for a better discount.....

Thank you so much, I will try it for the next Hobbit wave.

[Blazej_Holen]

0...I will just BL the minifigs. Sorry TLC.

I guess that it wil take a lot of money, far more better is to take the whole set unless u wont only few specified figs.

[BrickBob Studpants]

I guess that it wil take a lot of money, far more better is to take the whole set unless u wont only few specified figs.

I agree, the set still features 4 exclusive minifigs (Dain, crowned Thorin, angry Azog and blue-coat Bard) which will demand quite a bit of money on Bricklink, especially directly after the release of the new wave Besides, we really can't judge the set itself yet since the main building is still to be revealed

[Blazej_Holen]

There will be no more exrtra build I guess, the set contains 470 pcs, how many of them TLG used for Ballista and that demolished bridge? There will be some rocks and small ruins with window I guess (according to the picture on the box. Loomk at the new Lake town add on, it has arround 320 pcs, and it is small structure, basically the tower and small something...So dont hope for something extra, remember how it was with the Lonely Mountain set, the picture was cut and everybody hopes for third section...and then... They get disapointed :)

Edited August 15, 2014 by Blazej_Holen

[BrickBob Studpants]

I'm not expecting anything huge, just a nice little ruined building Also keep in mind that Bard and Legolas aren't visible on that picture, there has to be something else beside the bridge, and the wood planks suggest it's a building (or rather ruins thereof) and not just a rock

Edited August 15, 2014 by Lego-Freak

[Blakstone]

Unfortunately we did not see the back of the box photo of that set either. Still I think that the majority of the set was in frame. That was true for Smaug's Lair as well.

[TheLazyChicken]

We'll, it looks like I am getting only the $15 set. The Smaug set is overpriced, which will lead me not to buy it.

[dranguish]

I'll still buy them all. My wife is cool, and I have a 16 foot shelf on top of my entertainment center in the living room with all the LotR and Hobbit sets, LED backlt and all. That being said, I've modded just about all of them (with the exception being Orthanc), so I'm sure I'll mod these as well.

Am I thrilled with what we have here? As sets I think they are somewhat juniroized. BUT on the other hand, there are some positives about these sets. Witch King, Galadriel, new Orcs, Smaug, etc... I think I'll be able to do some pretty cool stuff with what is here, but man I wish there was just *a little* more out of the box on these...

[Black Numenorean]

About battle of the five army set, i think sauron army attack elf defense in black Forest. But it is no link about the hobbit history because dwarf and men must not be here.