LEGO Hobbit 2014

[Hypernova888]

I'd give it about 1% at this point.

I'd say 20%.

[kevkipo]

I am a fan of 79018 too, there are losts of gold pieces my only changes would be more dwarves (2 odd, Nori and another) and the price. Further than that we do get rock pieces and I think as much as we would like a shell of the mountain it is unrealistic in a play set.

I love it too. day by day i want it more and more!

I'd give it about 1% at this point.

I'm optimistic 50%

[BrickBob Studpants]

I'd give it about 1% at this point.

I give it 0% I just don't see it happening; as I've mentioned before it would unnecessarily extend the license to 2017 (since D2C sets always have a run of at least 1.5 to 2 years) and there's simply not enough potential. I can't think of anything that hasn't been done already and that would have that certain 'wow factor' like Orthanc, the Tumbler, the Star Wars UCS sets or something along those lines

Edit: Besides, it appears the UCS Slave One is going to be one of the January D2C sets (the second one probably being the Detective Agency), further lowering the chances of a Hobbit D2C set (so it's -50% now according to my estimation )

Edited September 7, 2014 by Lego-Freak

[Deathleech]

I give it 0% I just don't see it happening

I agree. The only scenes really worthy of being made into big D2C sets from the Hobbit are Dol Guldur, Erebor (possibly w/Smaug), Lake-town (possibly w/ Smaug), a brick built Smaug, or Bo5A. All of those have already being covered in wave three or two.

[Blakstone]

I don't think there is room for a Hobbit D2C, but if there was, I would hope that it would be a Rivendale. It was not covered near as much as Dol Guldur (3 sets), Lake-town (2 sets), or Erebor (1 massive set).

They could do a massive Rivendale and could even use the hair from the CMF elf with flesh ears for more elves without having to do a new mold.

Sure the odds are very slim, but they have to be better than LotR wave 3.

[Borador]

The odds are better than Lord of the Rings wave three...

That's not saying much.

I'd like a large brick built D2C Smaug, that'd be the perfect way to finish this off. But the chances that the actual Smaug will land in my yard are better..

[Hypernova888]

I can't think of anything that would make a good D2C set. The only Tolkien D2C I feel should be made is Minas Tirith, but LotR already got a D2C.

I also think that it would be very difficult to make a good brick-built Smaug set.

[Dr.Cogg]

How about Beorn's House D2C,complete with Bear Beorn.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Dr.Cogg

[kevkipo]

How about Beorn's House D2C,complete with Bear Beorn.

Yes.

Edited September 8, 2014 by kevkipo

[SMC]

If there is another d2c LOTR needs it more and think it would sell better too would need at least 2 new molds.

[kevkipo]

If there is another d2c The Hobbit needs it more and think it would sell better too would need at least 2 new molds.

[Venkefedo]

I think SMC had it right; LOTR needs it more, and would need a Gondor helmet and a Witch King helmet, maybe a Dernhelm helmet. A Hobbit one would need an Iron Hills Dwarf helmet (maybe), and... What? Orcrist, finally? A molded ram for the dwarves? Too early for my brain to recall other possibilities for new Hobbit molds (a Bolg head?).

[Blakstone]

LEGO does not make a mold specifically for a D2C set. There are not enough sets make to cover the cost of a new mold.

Even a Star Wars D2C cannot afford any new molds. The new hair for Leia had to be introduced in the CMF line first.

When people complain about LotR wave 2 they often forget that LEGO picks those sets to cover the molds needed for the Orthanc.

Besides it has been well over a year since the last LotR set. If there is a Tolkien set, it will be a final Hobbit one.

[Mahtion]

In no way does LOTR deserve another d2c when the Hobbit has proven more relevant with sales, interest, and resources available. If anything the Hobbit should have a final set exclusive to end the line properly.

Sadly Minas Tirith will never be made in Lego form officially as it is dull, too ambitious and not as appealing to the kids who actually prefer the Hobbit. I have seen kids at both Lego store in Orlando and in toysrus who examined and/or picked up Hobbit sets but never any LOTR.

[Blazej_Holen]

LEGO does not make a mold specifically for a D2C set. There are not enough sets make to cover the cost of a new mold.

Even a Star Wars D2C cannot afford any new molds. The new hair for Leia had to be introduced in the CMF line first.

When people complain about LotR wave 2 they often forget that LEGO picks those sets to cover the molds needed for the Orthanc.

Besides it has been well over a year since the last LotR set. If there is a Tolkien set, it will be a final Hobbit one.

Which molds? Saruman/Gandalf´s hairpiece?

In no way does LOTR deserve another d2c when the Hobbit has proven more relevant with sales, interest, and resources available. If anything the Hobbit should have a final set exclusive to end the line properly.

Sadly Minas Tirith will never be made in Lego form officially as it is dull, too ambitious and not as appealing to the kids who actually prefer the Hobbit. I have seen kids at both Lego store in Orlando and in toysrus who examined and/or picked up Hobbit sets but never any LOTR.

Minas Tirith is not dull as u said :) It has so much potential to be great set (just part of MT because whole city cannoct be build as a set with racional amount of bricks)

Imagine the front gate battle with Grond and Gate which can be broken, fell beast with nazgul and so much more. Dull is new BOFA set, the set itself has nothing to offer accept those dummy functions and enormous ballista. Figs are great but the rest of it sucks.

[Blakstone]

Which molds? Saruman/Gandalf´s hairpiece?

From the Wizard Battle, Saruman's hair piece.

From the Black Gate, the Eagle.

It is possible that the Gothic arch originated in both the Black Gate and the Council of Elrond. It see it was used extensively since then.

[Edit] Gandalf's hair in the Black Gate has been around for a long time. I find it funny as it is the same hair used for the Viking queen.

Edited September 8, 2014 by Blakstone

[Blazej_Holen]

From the Wizard Battle, Saruman's hair piece.

From the Black Gate, the Eagle.

It is possible that the Gothic arch originated in both the Black Gate and the Council of Elrond. It see it was used extensively since then.

[Edit] Gandalf's hair in the Black Gate has been around for a long time. I find it funny as it is the same hair used for the Viking queen.

Gandalf at the Black Gate has same hairpiece as Saruman. :)

and Eagles would be made anyway, in hobbit line :)

Edited September 8, 2014 by Blazej_Holen

[Blakstone]

Hobbit wave 3 comes well over a year after the Orthanc. So the cost of the eagle mold could not be put on a line that far out. Rather, I think you get the eagle in the Hobbit because it was ready paid for by the Black Gate.

You are right that Gandalf the White has an exclusive hair mold in the Black Gate, but it was not used in the Orthanc set.

If there is to be a D2C set left for the Tolkien universe, it will be a Hobbit one. But either way, it will not deliver any new molds for fans. So it must be a spectacular build or people will skip it.

[Hypernova888]

Beorn's house would be perfect.

[Hypernova888]

We could even get Bolg.

[Blazej_Holen]

Hobbit wave 3 comes well over a year after the Orthanc. So the cost of the eagle mold could not be put on a line that far out. Rather, I think you get the eagle in the Hobbit because it was ready paid for by the Black Gate.

You are right that Gandalf the White has an exclusive hair mold in the Black Gate, but it was not used in the Orthanc set.

If there is to be a D2C set left for the Tolkien universe, it will be a Hobbit one. But either way, it will not deliver any new molds for fans. So it must be a spectacular build or people will skip it.

Black gate wasnt big bingo, but myabe u r right...

[Bugbot2008]

From the Wizard Battle, Saruman's hair piece.

From the Black Gate, the Eagle.

[Edit] Gandalf's hair in the Black Gate has been around for a long time. I find it funny as it is the same hair used for the Viking queen.

You are right that Gandalf the White has an exclusive hair mold in the Black Gate, but it was not used in the Orthanc

Ok just setting things straight for the record:

Saruman was in the Orthanc set, both Sarumans in wave 2 and GTW use the exact same hair peice: Saruman's just has a bit of paint added to the beard.

The hair element used for that chess queen is the same as used for gandalf the grey and was introduced in 2001 for Albus Dumbledore.

Back to disscussion:

I agree that it was the black gate which covered the cost of the eagle, which is quite remarkable realy since that set also had the unique and guaranteed one-time-only helmet for the MOS.

With the tall elvish arch also considered it makes perfect sence that all the sets of wave 2 including the D2C (except the pirate ship) were developed simultaneously since they share so many new elements.

[Brickadiergerard]

I'm interested to see how there's a divide between Hobbit and LOTR. Personally I like both ranges - it's all Lego Middle-Earth and that in itself is an amazing thing. Apart from some scenes that I would have loved to see made into sets (Trolls, more Rivendell, Elvish cavalry, Beorn's house) I think TLG has covered most of the key locations in the films, something it has singularly not managed in LOTR. Because of that coverage, I can't see what Hobbit D2C set there could be that would get any real sales momentum whereas I can with LOTR - something Gondorian. Given that they made the Tumbler to appeal to adult Batfans (given its price and source), the idea of making something aimed at adult Tolkien fans isn't entirely implausible, and something Gondorian would surely be the best option because it would be completely new territory.

My guess though is that there'll be neither Hobbit nor LOTR D2C. I hope I'm wrong.

[hoiharry]

I don't know if this has already been discussed, but I saw this:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/47575695@N02/sets/72157636357477113/

You can see some clear pictues of the new minifigures from the third wave.

I love Galadriel and I like they give Azog a slightly different face print

And if you look closely, you can see that the new orcs also have a different face print.

[AFOLguy1970]

I'm interested to see how there's a divide between Hobbit and LOTR. Personally I like both ranges - it's all Lego Middle-Earth and that in itself is an amazing thing. Apart from some scenes that I would have loved to see made into sets (Trolls, more Rivendell, Elvish cavalry, Beorn's house) I think TLG has covered most of the key locations in the films, something it has singularly not managed in LOTR. Because of that coverage, I can't see what Hobbit D2C set there could be that would get any real sales momentum whereas I can with LOTR - something Gondorian. Given that they made the Tumbler to appeal to adult Batfans (given its price and source), the idea of making something aimed at adult Tolkien fans isn't entirely implausible, and something Gondorian would surely be the best option because it would be completely new territory.

My guess though is that there'll be neither Hobbit nor LOTR D2C. I hope I'm wrong.

I totally agree with all of this. On the LOTR end of things, there is plenty to thank the Hobbit trilogy for that we would not have received otherwise. Without the Hobbit, there would not have been Bag End, Bilbo, Galadriel, Twilight Witch King, Battle Elrond, wargs, and a new variation of orcs. There is certainly a significant overlap between the two stories. The Shire and Rivendell particularly come to mind.

Between the two lines, my favorite set is Bag End. As far as Hobbit and LOTR goes, it is hard for me to understand how one could like one and dislike the other. They are both great stories. The Hobbit was well covered by Lego, while the LOTR line has a glaring omission of Gondor and key characters such as Witch King, Eowyn, and Faramir. If there could ever be one more set, I would hope it would be Gondor.