Gibbon Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) That way people think they are getting something different than in Orthanc or Black Gates, but it doesn't actually cost Lego a penny in new prints or molds. It's a simple marketing technique. As for the Mordor Orcs, I think that is one place we SHOULD have gotten new prints but never did. The same print was just used so much and made little sense in a lot of the sets. We got "Mordor Orcs" in over four sets and they were the EXACT same in every one (besides accessories like the wrong helm's or hair with hairs). I would have loved to have seen at least one or two different prints where they are in armor. Heck, Lego could have even re-used the Moria Orc print and just changed the green chest part to tan and the arms from green to red or gray and that would have made for an excellent Morannon Orc. This helmet in the same gray and you have a brand new, almost perfectly accurate Orc for almost no cost to Lego. That's right but after all no matter what name Lego is to use for the eagle the customers get the very same eagle for their money and I do not think that this is a right or fan-friendly marketing technique. I can not agree more about the Orcs :-((( As a big lover of this folk I was really sad to see these stupid bold Mordor Orcs coming out again and again. With some minor modifications we could have had a plenty of new variants to make all of us happy. After all I am happy to see new Hunter Orc appearing in the Lake Town set as I really like them but I am sorry as they might be the very last of their kind as the line seems to be closing. Edited September 18, 2014 by Gibbon Quote
Deathleech Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) That's right but after all no matter what name Lego is to use for the eagle the customers get the very same eagle for their money and I do not think that this is a right or fan-friendly marketing technique. I'm sorry, I guess I am just failing to see your issue with this. What does it matter if Lego calls him Gwaihir or not? In the films Gwaihir looks almost identical to the rest of the eagles so who cares if Lego uses the same eagle mold/print for both? How or why would they bother differentiating him when he is barely different looking in the films? I mean I can understand if you were upset about the orcs or something else where they all look VASTLY different, but the difference between Gwaihir and the rest of the eagles is so miniscule it's really not worth making a separate print for. It's like the Witch King at Weathertop. He looks the EXACT same as the rest of the Nazgul there so if Lego wanted to list one of the Nazgul as the Witch King I would see absolutely no issue with it? Sure Lego could just put the eagle in all their sets and not bother listing him as Gwaihir ever, but then I am sure some people would complain we never got a Gwaihir and the Bo5A set wouldn't seem as appealing to some. Edited September 18, 2014 by Deathleech Quote
Gibbon Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 I'm sorry, I guess I am just failing to see your issue with this. What does it matter if Lego calls him Gwaihir or not? In the films Gwaihir looks almost identical to the rest of the eagles so who cares if Lego uses the same eagle mold/print for both? How or why would they bother differentiating him when he is barely different looking in the films? I mean I can understand if you were upset about the orcs or something else where they all look VASTLY different, but the difference between Gwaihir and the rest of the eagles is so miniscule it's really not worth making a separate print for. It's like the Witch King at Weathertop. He looks the EXACT same as the rest of the Nazgul there so if Lego wanted to list one of the Nazgul as the Witch King I would see absolutely no issue with it? Sure Lego could just put the eagle in all their sets and not bother listing him as Gwaihir ever, but then I am sure some people would complain we never got a Gwaihir and the Bo5A set wouldn't seem as appealing to some. All right, I fully understand your point but I simply use the opposite approach to the question. Why the hell to call it Gwaihir if it looks exactly the same as the common great eagle (even if he looks the same in the movie)? You are probably right and this is just a chicken shit to make the people happy and satisfied to have Gwaihir in their collection without spending a single penny on it. Quote
Blazej_Holen Posted September 18, 2014 Posted September 18, 2014 Maybe all of those Eagles in LOTR / Hobbit sets are Gwahirs... :D It makes sence..Orthanc (Gwahir saves Gandalf...Black Gate Gwahir flyies with gandalf to orodruina, and BOFa.. Gwahir leads army of eagles... Quote
Doctor_ocks Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Well to those who are poo-pooing WKB, after picking it up today, I can attest that the three minifigs are pure awesome. They're well worth the cost of the set. Quote
Doctor_ocks Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Posted on the last page but at the TRU in Omaha, NE. Quote
kevkipo Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Edited September 19, 2014 by kevkipo Quote
Steph 104th Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Smaug looks amazing! He is larger than I taught he was. I cannot wait to own all of these. Quote
kevkipo Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 (edited) Smaug looks amazing! He is larger than I taught he was. I cannot wait to own all of these. Me neither, and indeed he looks big right? Wouldn't be shocked if they show up with the rest when they are home Just noticed they are pretty stupid with names: This is Thorin, Oh so Kili must be in the Lake-Town one Edited September 19, 2014 by kevkipo Quote
Deathleech Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Smaug looks amazing! He is larger than I taught he was. I cannot wait to own all of these. Ya, he is MUCH larger than I was thinking, based on that video. We really haven't got a lot of comparison pictures of Smaug from the Erebor set... Quote
Doctor_ocks Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Me neither, and indeed he looks big right? Wouldn't be shocked if they show up with the rest when they are home Just noticed they are pretty stupid with names: This is Thorin, Oh so Kili must be in the Lake-Town one Yeah they're pretty awful when it comes to Middle Earth. Quote
Steph 104th Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 I hope someone post a review, or uploads one to Youtube so we can get another perspective on the sets and see them from all angles. Quote
AFOLguy1970 Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Smaug looks amazing! He is larger than I taught he was. I cannot wait to own all of these. Yes, he is much bigger than I expected. The long tail and wingspan help to highlight his size. I would like to see him compared with the castle dragon. It would partially explain why Lonely Mountain is so expensive. It seems like the Brickshow guys indicated he is made up of approximately 20 parts. Quote
sahidko Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 WOW Smaug is really gigantic, i still dont like $130 pricepoint but now it is at least little bit more understandable. Quote
Robert_88 Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 The set is still overpriced but at least Smaug is really cool! Quote
kevkipo Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Yeah they're pretty awful when it comes to Middle Earth. And Jasons favourite movie is LOTR :P Quote
Regenerate builder Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Can we get some comparison pics of Gwaihirto the other common eagles? People were reporting earlier there was no difference. Here is a picture of Gwaihir's neck. As far as I can tell it is the only difference between him and previous eagles. Quote
Deathleech Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 I would like to see him compared with the castle dragon. It would partially explain why Lonely Mountain is so expensive. It seems like the Brickshow guys indicated he is made up of approximately 20 parts. I would like to see a comparrison shot of him next to some dragons and also the t-rex from the most recent dinosaur theme to see how he measures up. Quote
Steph 104th Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 I think he will match up against them quite well, I think he could demolish the castle dragon too. Quote
azog15 Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 Can someone put up a size comparison shot of the BOFA Thorin and Smaug? Quote
LegoLOTR Posted September 19, 2014 Posted September 19, 2014 As I expected, I love the sets, now when better box pics came out...Lake-Town is not that bad at all now, when i look at it. Quote
Captain Nemo Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 I thought that video quality was on my end...until they pointed out that it was fuzzy anyways. Picture Reviews: 1 (By default) Video Reviews: 0 Anyways, it is great to watch (On mute) to see how massive Smaug really is. His size seems very deceptive in all the offical pictures, and I'm just so happy he's actually that large. I only have one old classic Dragon, so all my castle figures are going to freak out when Smaug arrives! Even though it's an expensive set, I think it's well worth it alone for Smaug; and I'm not even a big Middle Earth fan (Well I was, but that lackluster second wave really killed my spirit). Quote
Mr Greeble Posted September 20, 2014 Posted September 20, 2014 Does any one know if these have been released in the New England area? I'm dying to get them. Quote
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