kevkipo Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Also stolen from the game forum Looks interesting yet we don't see a lot Smaug's wig? Light Orb Shield? Lake-town Boots? Orc bow? Wow these keep getting better and better Edited March 18, 2014 by kevkipo Quote
Deathleech Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 They would have to have some villain in laketown and bolg seems to be the logical choice. Judging by what I've just read on the empire article for TABA I would guess that laketown would include bofur as boyens says he was put there in DOS for a reason, Bard seems likely as he is the one all this destiny and legend is building around. We already know Bain is in this set so I would guess we'd get casual tauriel as she is obviously going to be in lake town during the attack and she was during DOS and then I'd guess we'd get another orc and maybe even legolas as who else is bolg going to fight? Also floundie the British price shown at toy fair confirmed by HUW was £34.99 which would mean It could very well have more than 4 figures as MEA did and that was only £30. The final US price for these sets is not yet known and it could differ from the UK price. I mean in pounds goblin king battle is £79.99 but in USD it is $99.99. Sets are more expensive to buy in dollars in the USA than pounds in the UK. Point being in the USA the final price could be $40 which opens up a far larger possibility of more than figures. I doubt they would make bard's daughters as they aren't well known enough to sell a set and would seem boring to kids who have seen DOS or TABA as they don't do much really other than look frightened. Council of Elrond was $30, didn't have any bad guys, and only had four minifigures. I expect the Lake-town set to be very similar unless it is an army builder type. I doubt Lake-town will have more than four minifigures though. We already know it has Bain so the chances of it having five more soldiers seem pretty slim to none (which it would need to be an army builder like the past ones we have gotten). The $40 price tag seems to still stick to four minifigures as seen with Orc Forge. Heck, we only get five minifigures in the $50-60 sets. Quote
deskp Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Council of Elrond was $30, didn't have any bad guys, and only had four minifigures. I expect the Lake-town set to be very similar unless it is an army builder type. I doubt Lake-town will have more than four minifigures though. We already know it has Bain so the chances of it having five more soldiers seem pretty slim to none (which it would need to be an army builder like the past ones we have gotten). The $40 price tag seems to still stick to four minifigures as seen with Orc Forge. Heck, we only get five minifigures in the $50-60 sets. But it might have 1 guard, and if theres 1 guard they migth aswell incldue 2 cause the figures is in a decent production being in 2 other "sets" So it could end up at 5 minifigs, 3 being new ones. but yeah, it would be a weird set to make a army buldier-ish set. Quote
Floundie Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 But it might have 1 guard, and if theres 1 guard they migth aswell incldue 2 cause the figures is in a decent production being in 2 other "sets" So it could end up at 5 minifigs, 3 being new ones. but yeah, it would be a weird set to make a army buldier-ish set. Well a lake town army builder would be useful, lots of guards and parts for custom lake town buildings. Quote
Blazej_Holen Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 You mean x towers with Windlances and Bains, Alfrids etc ? ;) the set of same size as a Council of Elrond with possibly 4 minifigs.... If rumors and speculations are true Quote
kevkipo Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 (edited) Well i was thinking about maybe a Lake-Town army builder? But then with Bain included, just as with Thranduil There are a lot of ragtag lake-towners fighting in BO5A So maybe it's for that? i saw a pic and they look pretty good a bit Beornish hair but not the Mohawk Still this would be Fantasticular! Or are these Erebor soldiers? it looks like they are in Erebor... Edited March 19, 2014 by kevkipo Quote
kevkipo Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Those are Erebor Dwarves from AUJ. Yup knew it :P Quote
Deathleech Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Why would Lego make a Lake-town army builder when a much better choice would be a Bo5A army builder (which they seemed to have skipped)? I mean unless PJ added tons of extra scenes, there shouldn't be much fighting in Lake-town between actual armies. It's all just Smaug fighting the Lake-town men. On the other hand a Bo5A army builder could have dwarves, elves, orcs, and of course Lake-town men. The former are never even seen in Lake-town. Bo5A is a battle actually focused on armies clashing and would of been PERFECT as an army builder! Quote
kevkipo Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 (edited) Why would Lego make a Lake-town army builder when a much better choice would be a Bo5A army builder (which they seemed to have skipped)? I mean unless PJ added tons of extra scenes, there shouldn't be much fighting in Lake-town between actual armies. It's all just Smaug fighting the Lake-town men. On the other hand a Bo5A army builder could have dwarves, elves, orcs, and of course Lake-town men. The former are never even seen in Lake-town. Bo5A is a battle actually focused on armies clashing and would of been PERFECT as an army builder! As much as i would like the Iron Hill battle pack (oh god please let me have Iron Hill Dwarve(s) your point is not entirely true We also didn't need an Elf battle pack if you see it from this angle? I mean Mirkwood Elves army is not even based on a scene! And a Lake-towner battle pack is always welcome! the Lake-Towners play a big role in the battle of the five armies! and isn't Smaug burning Lake-Town a big scene? Just for that we need another Lake-town I prefer a Iron Hill army just like the Mirkwood Elves Army type pack But you take what you get Edited March 20, 2014 by kevkipo Quote
bachamn Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 I mean unless PJ added tons of extra scenes, there shouldn't be much fighting in Lake-town between actual armies. It's all just Smaug fighting the Lake-town men.... Bo5A is a battle actually focused on armies clashing and would of been PERFECT as an army builder! Keep in mind that pretty much all of the events taking place in Laketown are deviations from the lore; specifically, Bolg never went to Laketown with a band of orcs and fought Legolas (who of course wasn't even in the book to begin with) so there's really no telling what we should expect, but keeping that in mind, it's reasonable to assume there might be more fighting going on in Laketown in TaBA that was not in the books. I'm hoping they don't go with a Laketown army builder unless they add some variety to the outfits, since they already released the polybag with the solider. Having said that, I totally agree that a B05A army builder would be ideal, just throw in two of each elves, dwarves, and orcs, maybe a warg somewhere and I'd be through the roof. We also didn't need an Elf battle pack if you see it from this angle? I mean Mirkwood Elves army is not even based on a scene! and isn't Smaug burning Lake-Town a big scene? Just for that we need another Lake-town I'd assumed that the Mirkwood Elves set was intended to be loosely based on the skirmish that takes places after the barrel escape in the movie, where the orcs ambush the elves at the river gate. Just figured we didn't get those sweet armored elves or the river gate because these parts of the film weren't fleshed out yet; assuming TLG just got some vague info about a "orcs attacking mirkwood elves near a wall" scene and went from there. As far as a burnt LakeTown set, I mean if we're blue-skying, yeah...but considering there are some iconic scenes that didn't make it into production (Carrock/Beorn's home being the main one for me), I don't see the need to have any more sets for LakeTown. I'm assuming the Laketown set in the upcoming wave will just be an expansion of the normal Laketown buildings we got with the last wave with the black arrow tower somewhere in it, probably with a few LT soliders, Bain, and Bofur (maybe Tauriel in another outfit, but honestly I could take or leave her character...maybe if Evangeline Lily could quit hamming it up so much) Quote
kevkipo Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 I'd assumed that the Mirkwood Elves set was intended to be loosely based on the skirmish that takes places after the barrel escape in the movie, where the orcs ambush the elves at the river gate. Just figured we didn't get those sweet armored elves or the river gate because these parts of the film weren't fleshed out yet; assuming TLG just got some vague info about a "orcs attacking mirkwood elves near a wall" scene and went from there. As far as a burnt LakeTown set, I mean if we're blue-skying, yeah...but considering there are some iconic scenes that didn't make it into production (Carrock/Beorn's home being the main one for me), I don't see the need to have any more sets for LakeTown. I'm assuming the Laketown set in the upcoming wave will just be an expansion of the normal Laketown buildings we got with the last wave with the black arrow tower somewhere in it, probably with a few LT soliders, Bain, and Bofur (maybe Tauriel in another outfit, but honestly I could take or leave her character...maybe if Evangeline Lily could quit hamming it up so much) Well i wasn't really talking about a burned Lake-town set, It was more like a Mindfusion about how they could make a little army builder out of the new Lake-Town set as that is one of the sets we are getting, Sadly we can't change that! (i would have liked to see a Iron Hill army builder, but i've only said that a couple of 100 times and i assume Dain and Companion Dwarf soldier buddy are in BO5A so nothing to worry ) I've seen some behind the scene pictures about Ragtag Lake-Town warriors, Not like the Volcano headed Lake Guards. The Ragtag ones look more Awesomer (Is that even a word?) A link to the Lake-Town soldier is here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/47575695@N02/10227384413/in/set-72157636357477113/ Courtesy of Deskp And then we also have the Iron Hill soldiers here : Quote
Deathleech Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 As much as i would like the Iron Hill battle pack (oh god please let me have Iron Hill Dwarve(s) your point is not entirely true We also didn't need an Elf battle pack if you see it from this angle? I mean Mirkwood Elves army is not even based on a scene! And a Lake-towner battle pack is always welcome! the Lake-Towners play a big role in the battle of the five armies! and isn't Smaug burning Lake-Town a big scene? Just for that we need another Lake-town Right, but there are a few key differences. First off there really was no other option for an army builder set based on the DoS film. What else could they have possibly made an army builder set out of besides the elves and orcs? It was just a good way for Lego to get Thranduil, some orcs, elves, and a brown Warg into a wave that would otherwise be devoid of an army builder. We have no idea what this set was originally based on due to so many changes in the film and the early prelim info Lego was going off of. Maybe it was suppose to be a bigger battle scene, or more likely based off the water gate scene we see? Secondly Lake-town shouldn't even include most of the races that take part in the Bo5A. I know PJ has deviated a ton from the book and added a lot, but I just don't see the dwarf, orc, or elf army entering Lake-town to fight the Lake-town Guards. Remember at the end of DoS Smaug was headed to Lake-town to torch it? There shouldn't be any time for armies to arrive there before he begins, nor why would they? It would be such a huge deviation from the book I can't see it happening. A Bo5A army builder, on the other hand, could easily include all the races and be movie accurate. It seems like an obvious choice to make an army builder out of a set where all the races have their armies and are doing battle. I see the Lake-town set being a small $30 set with four characters. Bain, maybe Alfrid, and one or two of the dwarves with Tauriel possibly? Maybe a Lake-town soldier or captain? It will probably just have the tower with the bolt thrower and maybe one other small building and be an add-on to the Lake-town Chase set. I don't think we are getting an army builder this wave which is a shame considering the potential. Quote
Godless-Mimicry Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Phillipa Boynes said Bofur will have a bigger role to play in the battle with Smaug, so I'd wager he'd be in the Lake Town set. Bain, Alfred and another Guard sound like fair bets on the rest, I agree. Quote
deskp Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Phillipa Boynes said Bofur will have a bigger role to play in the battle with Smaug, so I'd wager he'd be in the Lake Town set. Bain, Alfred and another Guard sound like fair bets on the rest, I agree. Do post the direct quote please. I read that interview with her recently aswell, and im not sure thats quite exactly what was said. Quote
Godless-Mimicry Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Do post the direct quote please. I read that interview with her recently aswell, and im not sure thats quite exactly what was said. I don't know where it's from, I just heard it through the grapevine. Why does it matter? This is a discussion, not a debate. But I think it was along the lines of Bofur will have a bigger role and come into his own during the confrontation in Laketown. Quote
deskp Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 " We wanted some of the dwarves to understand what happened in that firestorm, that holocaust that rains down upon Lake-town. Bofur comes more into his own in the third film. A rift begins to open up. And I can’t say much more without going into spoilers for film three," Its more than he will be at odds with Thorin after the laketown situation, not that he will do imporants stuff during smaug attack. Quote
TeufelHund Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Not actually any news on the new sets but nice anyway: Quote
Ardelon Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 Right, but there are a few key differences. First off there really was no other option for an army builder set based on the DoS film. What else could they have possibly made an army builder set out of besides the elves and orcs? It was just a good way for Lego to get Thranduil, some orcs, elves, and a brown Warg into a wave that would otherwise be devoid of an army builder. Well, they could have made an army builder set of Lake Town guards. Braga with special printing and three grunts with different weapons. The antagonists could have been either the Orcs (not canonical to the film, but neither was the MEA set), or even Bard and Bain with the black arrow, or some of the Dwarves stealing weapons. The designer scould have put Alfrid or another character in the LTC set instead of the one guard. I think this would have been a better way to build up your Lake Town forces than one guard per medium sized set and one per limited availability polybag. Not that I think the current mix of sets and figs is bad, but since you asked... We have no idea what this set was originally based on due to so many changes in the film and the early prelim info Lego was going off of. Maybe it was suppose to be a bigger battle scene, or more likely based off the water gate scene we see? I suddenly have this image of the designers releasing the MEA set with Azog as per the trailer, and later on facepalming themselves on another "Yazneg in the wrong set" situation. Quote
kevkipo Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 I Hope Bofur plays a good role in the firestorm! I think he grows more to understanding Thorin, He hasn't seen the firestorm raging upon the city of Dale, He wasn't there at the time He sees everything with a Laugher. but now that he sees Smaug he will understand Thorin more and more (and so do Bifur and Bombur now) I think he will protect Bard's children. And protect the people of the Lake, and help Bain Bofur may not be a Warrior but when it comes to it... He can be a real Badass Quote
deskp Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 I Hope Bofur plays a good role in the firestorm! I think he grows more to understanding Thorin. No no, quite the oposite. Thorin wants all the gold for himself, but Bofur will think its fair to give some of it to the laketown people due to the smaug attack caused by the dwarves Quote
kevkipo Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 No no, quite the oposite. Thorin wants all the gold for himself, but Bofur will think its fair to give some of it to the laketown people due to the smaug attack caused by the dwarves Hmm, yes i understand your point. i think that is an option too! But i mean like understanding Thorin in a way like what he has gone trough, the anger he feels for Smaug Quote
Godless-Mimicry Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 I don't think Bofur is put out to be an angry character. I would see sympathy from him at Lake Town rather than anger. Quote
SMC Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 (edited) Not actually any news on the new sets but nice anyway: loved it thanks Edited March 21, 2014 by SMC Quote
kevkipo Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 I don't think Bofur is put out to be an angry character. I would see sympathy from him at Lake Town rather than anger. I don't mean he's gonna be a Angry Character! It's just that i think he's gonna feel what Thorin feels when the eternal blaze of fire and corruption attacks the bloody city on water! People please! read something and try to understand it! gosh... Quote
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