Scubacarrot Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I'm not contradicting myself at all. It was a good idea, until someone told me the roles could maybe be derived from the identities, after which I got more doubts. There is no contradiction. My views change. I can walk you through every change of heart I had about the situation, if it would please the lady? Or I can set your hair on fire.
Hinckley Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I'm not contradicting myself at all. It was a good idea, until someone told me the roles could maybe be derived from the identities, after which I got more doubts. Who told you that? One of your Scum buddies? And you ignore my original derision of your statements, my love. What monsters would give definitive clues to the PRs? Maybe the mummy is the blocker because he lives in a pyramid? Oh, I'm toast, I'm making the same jokes twice.
Scubacarrot Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 You keep being continuously late with what you say. Other than the shields from the Evil knight and Evil Dwarf, I couldn't think of anything else. I've said this before. I don't see your issue.
Hinckley Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 You keep being continuously late with what you say. Other than the shields from the Evil knight and Evil Dwarf, I couldn't think of anything else. I've said this before. I don't see your issue. I've been continuously late? Where? When? The Evil Knight and Dwarf are obvious protectors, so you still advocate revealing our roles, yes?
Scubacarrot Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 No... What I said was that actually the only ones I could think of being a role if roles would be related to identities is that if people are an evil dwarf or evil knight they would be the protector. I then wondered if that was enough to warrant NOT giving out the identities. I think it's not. But I'm not convinced. You were late before when you didn't seem to grasp what was clearly said in thread. Now, I'm tired of keeping you up to date while you seem to have little will to keep up to date.
Hinckley Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 You were late before when you didn't seem to grasp what was clearly said in thread. Now, I'm tired of keeping you up to date while you seem to have little will to keep up to date. So, what of it?
Hinckley Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Well, darling, I disagree that I haven't kept up to date and I think you're over-reacting. This type of intensity is normally a Scum tell. Scum perspective: a magnification of all occurrences. You think I've been behind in everything when you're just imagining it in one instance. You're hardly leading me along and keeping me up to date. I think I've got a very solid read of what's happening and am certainly paying attention. So, what if I was actually "behind" as you say? What of it? What's your point? Now, I'm tired of keeping you up to date while you seem to have little will to keep up to date. This sounds like you've been trying to keep me informed on what's going on for days and days. What is the real problem? Angry that your whole team has been caught so early? I have little will? My dear, have you just met me? I have more will than you can imagine and if you are Scum, I will see you brought down...with the strength of my will alone.
DarthPotato Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 It's not a screw up, I meant every word I said. My figure is not a monster but I'm still a monster. This is what I mean, my figure is called the "Monster _____", the blank spot being my actual figure. I am aligned with the monsters and I'm town, it's just that my figure's not an actual monster. That's just it. The concept for this game is inverted. The Monsters have the majority and The Normies are the Scum. So for someone to not be a monster... fill in the blank, lovely. You're Scum. Someone screwed up in the first one, yes. That doesn't mean the host has to make it impossible for someone to screw it up again. The very story is that we're monsters vs. normies and our real identities are hidden. You've admitted your true identity is a normie. Sorry. We have to lynch you now. I don't know what others will do. Maybe someone will corroborate your story, I doubt that. But, when voting starts today, I'm voting for you and I can't imagine anything changing that. It's a normal figure. The figure just doesn't decide the entire allegiance, because like I said above I'm still classified as a monster. The only thing that bugs me about this is that it is too easy. Vote: Derek Polanes (DarthPotato) Because it is too easy. While this is happening the scum can just tag along for a unanimous vote. Um, yeah. Re-reading the days thread after a night sleep did flesh out the more scummy behavior from Derek Potatos. Looking over what he said, I think this statment stood out most to me as scummy, or strange/un-town-like the most, since it implys that he's not town and either scum or third party: I said that because that's what I thought. I was town, my figure wasn't an actual monster, so I assumed it was like that for everyone else. Vote: Derek Polanes / Darth Potato Can you say a massive misstep in communications? Silly human. It's not miscommunication when I meant to say it. …and then he started contradicting himself. Not really though. But actually yes, really. That's not a contradiction. I knew that the town were monsters, like I've said because I'm still classified as a monster. My alter ego however is not a monster, and because I'm town I assumed it was like that for everyone else. What I said there was that the town were still monsters but the figures were not because that's how I thought it was. It's two different things.
Hinckley Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Where'd you go? Conferring with your Scum buddies? Bok bok bok bok bok ba-kawk!!! my figure is called the "Monster _____", I love fill-in-the-blank games! Ok, ok. Lemmee guess... Is it "megablocks"??
DarthPotato Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 I'm saying that everything I said earlier matches up to something someone who was town would say. If I was scum I would have known if everyone there had regular figures, meaning the town has monster figures. I wouldn't be stupid enough to make a slip up like that, especially when it's involving something as important as alter egos. That's what my figure is.
Hinckley Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Whatever, darling. I vote we all reveal our alter egos. Nothing in the rules forbids it. I won't listen to Sally's drunken ramblings about evil castle-folk with shields. Who's with me?
MagPiesRUs Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 So what is your alter ego Derek? It definitely isn't a figure that's even slightly monstrous?
DarthPotato Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 So what is your alter ego Derek? It definitely isn't a figure that's even slightly monstrous? No, I wouldn't classify it as a monster. It just has the word monster before it. Whatever, darling. I vote we all reveal our alter egos. Nothing in the rules forbids it. I won't listen to Sally's drunken ramblings about evil castle-folk with shields. Who's with me? I'm fine with it, not that it makes much different to me at this point.
Scubacarrot Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 What are you even talking about, you're really not making sense, Helen. Derek, wouldn't your best move to have told your identity anyway? Would have cleared a lot of suspicion.
DarthPotato Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 What are you even talking about, you're really not making sense, Helen. Derek, wouldn't your best move to have told your identity anyway? Would have cleared a lot of suspicion. I didn't want to go claiming it right away. It's not exactly something that should be loosely thrown around, although it looks like I'm dead anyway even if I survive the lynch.
Captain Genaro Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 While I appreciate your input Bleep, I really would have liked to see Derek reveal his role before you gave him the out of "well, maybe it's a evil non-monster. Is this the case?" Its just like a hit on someone. You don't advertise what your going to do so the target can exit through the back while you wait out front. If he's smart enough to exit out the back, fine, he escaped for now, but you don't have to lead him to it. As for Sally, I find her defense believable. When she mentioned identity cards, I think she was first just looking for something to burn. Pretty risky if she was scum to try and bring them out, especially considering what happened in the first CMF mafia. Even if she didn't know about it, I'm pretty sure someone on the scum team would have given them a heads up. And then the fact that she changed her mind is equally believable to me. If she didn't realize that the characters could correspond to roles, then it's perfectly reasonable for her to change her mind when she realized. Oh, and although it's a little late now, Vote: Derek Polanes (DarthPotato)
DarthPotato Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 My role's Monster Fortune Teller, AKA the cop. This is what I talking about all along...
Tamamono Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Jesus Christ, why would a council member come out and claim immediately; what benefit would that even have? Think before you bandwagon.
Peanuts Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Whatever, darling. I vote we all reveal our alter egos. Nothing in the rules forbids it. I won't listen to Sally's drunken ramblings about evil castle-folk with shields. Who's with me? Still against it. While the role-identity context should be a bit less clear than last time, I could think of a few implications. I wouldn't want to share them, though. Wildly speculating is not helping us, and I'll let the scum do their homework themselves. My role's Monster Fortune Teller, AKA the cop. This is what I talking about all along... Shit. You should have stopped after Fortune Teller, I think. Shit. You should have stopped after Fortune Teller, I think. Oh right, you're doing this to save yourself from getting lynched, sorry.
DarthPotato Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 Shit. You should have stopped after Fortune Teller, I think. I think it would become obvious. And if it's left open about me being the cop and I die then the scum could claim it later on and no one would know for sure if they're lying. If I am going to die, and if I survive the lynch I'm sure I'm going to have dozen of night actions on me tonight, then I want to make sure there's nothing left to be confused about.
Tamamono Posted January 23, 2014 Posted January 23, 2014 If there's no cop counterclaim, we should all claim our identities/roles to Derek. Additionally: after the black and white nature of the last situation, I'm sure God intentionally created more ambiguity with the alter egos this time around. Remember how easily the monsters fell last time? What would be the point of setting up scum to die like dogs again?
Hinckley Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 While I appreciate your input Bleep, I really would have liked to see Derek reveal his role before you gave him the out of "well, maybe it's a evil non-monster. Is this the case?" Agreed. What are you even talking about, you're really not making sense, Helen. Derek, wouldn't your best move to have told your identity anyway? Would have cleared a lot of suspicion. Nobody else seems to have any trouble understanding what I'm saying. Jesus Christ, why would a council member come out and claim immediately; what benefit would that even have? Think before you bandwagon. Why would a monster claim immediately? Dear, I think you've caught a bit of the Scum. Think before we bandwagon? This lynch makes perfect sense. Derek is making no sense and he never said his non-monster figure had the word monster before it until we all started voting him. It's hard to be Scum, don't worry. Nobody blames you for being so blatantly obvious. My role's Monster Fortune Teller, AKA the cop. This is what I talking about all along... So, who asked you to claim a role? If you're really a Monster, I will find you and punch you in the face. But I highly doubt that. Everything you said has reeked of desperate backtracking. If there's no cop counterclaim, we should all claim our identities/roles to Derek. You're out of your mind. What cop would counterclaim right now? And to whom? On day one, darling? With so many Scummy jerks saying Scummy crap, a cop would probably do best to keep their eye on it and wait to find someone to trust, but nice try trying to get every one to claim to your Scum teammate. I'm not a violent woman but I have the strong desire to punch you directly in your tiny nutsack. Additionally: after the black and white nature of the last situation, I'm sure God intentionally created more ambiguity with the alter egos this time around. Remember how easily the monsters fell last time? What would be the point of setting up scum to die like dogs again? Oh, are you so sure of that? You commune with God? Have we had any corroboration for Derek's ridiculous claim? "Hey Derek, you've got yourself lynched by not paying attention to the premise, claim investigator so we might at least get the investigator outing themselves." "Hey, I can even go out and suggest that if there is not counterclaim that all PRs claim to you and then we can totally steamroller this Town." So disappointed. I thought the Scum would be hard to catch this time. Forget it. I'm claiming my alter ego. I'm the Monster Cheerleader. Just kidding. I'm the Mummy.
Captain Genaro Posted January 24, 2014 Posted January 24, 2014 If there's no cop counterclaim, we should all claim our identities/roles to Derek. I'm really not sure that's a good idea. If Derek is lying, then we have just given the Council all our roles. And I can think of several reasons why the cop might not come out and counter-claim Derek. 1) He doesn't trust anyone and thinks it's a bad idea to reveal his role to the world. 2) He's not around to make a counter-claim in time. 3) There is no cop role (strange, incredibly unlikely, I know, but I guess it's still an option) Besides, what would be the point of giving Derek all our roles if he's just going to be lynched? Or are you now saying that we shouldn't lynch him?
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