Ideas For new sets(Wild West)

[Klaus-Dieter]

it seems most don't understand this concept... or do, and would rather have the "action feature" removed... but that is the coolest part *sing* !!! and the entire concept of the design... without that the saloon is just any other, half-boring MOC.

I didn't say that I do not like the "action feature" in your nice saloon. I really like it and it would be perfect if a WW Saloon Set would include this mechanism. But a saloon without bar and barkeeper is no saloon, I would say.

[Brick Miner]

a saloon without bar and barkeeper is no saloon, I would say.

hmmm... i think most AFOL agree. but if so, then there is no chance LEGO will ever produce a saloon that our hobby will appriciate... i can't imagine LEGO every making a bar.

i still don't see why the saloon can't be an "entertainment house." i picture the kid friendly version being much like vegas is today, gambling and live shows... not that vegas is kid friendly, but more so than a bar :-D

that is the saloon i could see LEGO making ;-)

- BrickMiner

[WesternOutlaw]

hmmm... i think most AFOL agree. but if so, then there is no chance LEGO will ever produce a saloon that our hobby will appriciate... i can't imagine LEGO every making a bar.

i still don't see why the saloon can't be an "entertainment house." i picture the kid friendly version being much like vegas is today, gambling and live shows... not that vegas is kid friendly, but more so than a bar :-D

that is the saloon i could see LEGO making ;-)

- BrickMiner

I agree with KD. Saloons from this era must contain a bar of some kind. If Lego can make assault rifles and other guns, is a WW bar any worse. The drinks don't need to be alcohol- they can always be root beer and floats for the kiddies.

Playmobil offered a mirrored bar with lots of bottles and glasses in their Golden Nugget Saloon. Take a look:

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The Brickster, I looked at your MOC sets and found the church and the ghost house with the black tree very nice. Your church creation would be the one I thought about when writing down the idea of the WW Church with a litlle cemetery. Nice!

Thanks KD. Here's a few shots of an earlier church and cemetary concept- one of my first WW MOCs. I used the HP graveyard as the cemetary.

[Klaus-Dieter]

Thanks KD. Here's a few shots of an earlier church and cemetary concept- one of my first WW MOCs. I used the HP graveyard as the cemetary.

I would have prefered the other church (shadow chapel or how you named it), TheBrickster.

But this red coach on the photo looks great! Would like to have one of this kind, too!

Again something to the bar in the WW Saloon: I don't know if you know the Breezway Caf

[Brick Miner]

hmmm... ok, so the suggestion is that, if we remove the alcohol from the bar... then the bar is ok for children, and subsequently ok for an official LEGO release. i suppose that is possible.

however, removing alcohol from the bar in a cafe (breezeway cafe) is much easier than removing the alcohol from a bar in a saloon ;-)

it almost seems impossible on first thought... however, i think there are some steps that could help remove the alcohol from the saloon... if the bar-keep was rendered as a non-offensive character, and if no bottles where seen behind the bar, it would help... but it still seems like we are not quite there.

what else could be done ??? any thoughts ???

- BrickMiner

[Klaus-Dieter]

if the bar-keep was rendered as a non-offensive character, and if no bottles where seen behind the bar, it would help...

Yes, that would be OK. No bottles behind the bar and no offensive character as barkeeper (How could an offensive character as barkeeper look like? Red head? Blue nose? I do not know.). Besides: If I'm right, Lego hasn't produced bottles since I can think. But a rack with some glases and cups would be OK, wouldn't it?

A question, Brick Miner: When your WW Train Station MOC is ready, where can I find it on EB? I'm surprised to see it!

[Klaus-Dieter]

It's actually right that the brain works over night. So since nobody encourages this nice forum, I'll give you now my (this time surely lat) ideas for new WW sets and would like to read your thoughts about them.

Wild West Governor's Palace

a big palace in white colour (similar to the White House or buildings like this) (first floor: entrance, office on the left side and living room on the right side, second floor: big balcony and two sleeping rooms) with a very little park and a fence

including two horses

minifigs: governor, his wife, two soldiers, a captain and a sergeant

Wild West Hold-Up On The Governor

a little canyon with shrubs and the governor's coach

including 4 horses, two coach horses and some suitcases

minifigs: governor, captain, sergeant, two soldiers, the robbers's boss, two robbers

Wild West Locomotive Service Station

a little house, some tracks and a switch, a locomotive with tender, a coal filling station and a water filling Wild Westpump (I don't know the definite terms for them)

including a few barrels and tools

minifigs: worker, conductor and heater

Wild West Cableway

a canyon with a little river and a cableway from the one side of the canyon to the other side

including some barrels, cargo staff and two horses

minifigs: sheriff, cowboy, the robbers' boss, a robber

Wild West Haunted House

an old house (first floor: entrance and small room, second floor: little bed room) and a big old tree

including some barrels, cargo staff, an oil lamp, a horse and some bats and owls

minifigs: old man, coxboy, gloomy ghost and skeletton

Wild West Forest Cottage

a little cottage with a small landscabe of rocks, trees and shrubs

including a horse and a grizzly

minifigs: old man and cowboy

Wild West Farmers At Work

a little field with plants and a fence, a simply coach for transporting goods and a plow

including some vegetables, a horse and a coach horse

minifigs: two farmers, a woman and a child

and as a last minifig set:

Wild West Indians

including a shrub and a horse

minifigs: a medicine man, the Indians' chief and two Indians

Surely also another ideas are welcome!

[WesternOutlaw]

Wild West Locomotive Service Station

a little house, some tracks and a switch, a locomotive with tender, a coal filling station and a water filling Wild Westpump (I don't know the definite terms for them)

including a few barrels and tools

minifigs: worker, conductor and heater

I can't figure out why Lego never offered an old steam engine with the WW collection. Definately needed with other train accessories. Playmobil had an outstanding water tower for their wetsren steam train.

Wild West Cableway

a canyon with a little river and a cableway from the one side of the canyon to the other side

including some barrels, cargo staff and two horses

minifigs: sheriff, cowboy, the robbers' boss, a robber

Very original idea. This one I've never heard of. Reminds me of something out of the movie Post Man (if you've seen it). This would be interesting to see.

Wild West Haunted House

an old house (first floor: entrance and small room, second floor: little bed room) and a big old tree

including some barrels, cargo staff, an oil lamp, a horse and some bats and owls

minifigs: old man, coxboy, gloomy ghost and skeletton

What can I say *skull* *wub*

Wild West Forest Cottage

a little cottage with a small landscabe of rocks, trees and shrubs

including a horse and a grizzly

minifigs: old man and cowboy

This was something I was thinking when I built the Spooky Shack. Lego definately needed a small house of some kind. I like the idea of the bear - and I think it's very original for the WW theme.

These are the ideas that I particularly liked. The others aren't bad as well. Do you plan to build any of them KD?

[Brick Miner]

A question, Brick Miner: When your WW Train Station MOC is ready, where can I find it on EB? I'm surprised to see it!

im gonna post it next week, here in the H&A forum ;-) im finishing up helping our member Alex54 wtih a project of his first ;-)

with all your great ideas and WW interest im excited to here your thoughts 8-

[Piranha]

:-) Never had I imagined this topic would generate so much feedback.

Hello and welcome Klaus-Dieter

You certainly have alot of good ideas so thanks

It is good to see more members interested in the WW theme

Nice MOCs Brickster

Piranha

(hmmm now what new ideas can I think of)

[zouave]

Well my ideas are...

Telegraph Office

This could fit on a 16 by 32 baseplate.It would be a log building about the size of the general store.There would be a window with the words,''Telegraph Office'' printed on it in western print.A telephone-pole would hold a wire[probably string] to the building.Inside there is a table containing the telegraph.There is also a chair for Sam the telegrapher.Minifigs include Sam and Sheriff

Frontier Family

A family heading west.It's nothing more than a family in a covered wagon.Their possecions strapped to their wagon,they venture into the unknown.Includes: Father,Mother,Son,dog, and horse.

Edited May 29, 2007 by zouave

[Brick Miner]

Frontier Family

A family heading west.It's nothing more than a family in a covered wagon.Their possecions strapped to their wagon,they venture into the unknown.Includes: Father,Mother,Son,dog, and horse.

my single most desired new mold is a bonnet... this set would be a great opportunity *y*

- BrickMiner

[zouave]

Thanks.I actually imagined the lady wearing a bonnet. BTW I'm gonna try to make the telegraph office. ;-)

[oo7]

I shall quote myself from the original "Potential Western Sets" topic.

I've always thought it would be cool and I have considered making one before and I will probably make one sometime in the future...

A Western themed Paddle Steamer a.k.a. Riverboat!

Here is my only online Western MOC. Oh no....I just realized I missed Mrts' reply but it's I don't want revive it as it's to old. 8-|

My title was "the Pollster" for a while.

I'd say that's a bit of an understatement! :-D

[Klaus-Dieter]

Well my ideas are...

Telegraph Office

This could fit on a 16 by 32 baseplate.It would be a log building about the size of the general store.There would be a window with the words,''Telegraph Office'' printed on it in western print.A telephone-pole would hold a wire[probably string] to the building.Inside there is a table containing the telegraph.There is also a chair for Sam the telegrapher.Minifigs include Sam and Sheriff

Frontier Family

A family heading west.It's nothing more than a family in a covered wagon.Their possecions strapped to their wagon,they venture into the unknown.Includes: Father,Mother,Son,dog, and horse.

The Telegraph Office is a very good idea, zouave! Do you think it should be in a WW city or outside in the plains? (Perhaps also two telegraph offices might be possible to send a message from one to an other place. But it is clear that if TLC would release a set like this than only one option model.)

Besides, the idea with the WW family with the covered wagon is mine. (Look one or two pages backward!)

im gonna post it next week, here in the H&A forum ;-) im finishing up helping our member Alex54 wtih a project of his first ;-)

with all your great ideas and WW interest im excited to here your thoughts 8-

[Klaus-Dieter]

The Telegraph Office is a very good idea, zouave! Do you think it should be in a WW city or outside in the plains? (Perhaps also two telegraph offices might be possible to send a message from one to an other place. But it is clear that if TLC would release a set like this than only one option model.)

Besides, the idea with the WW family with the covered wagon is mine. (Look one or two pages backward!)

Thank you very much for your compliment!

I've posted my opinion to your WW Train Station in the proper forum. Perhaps you've read it.

I can calm you that you did a very good job! That was the set I also thought about when I've posted this idea in this forum (to do not tell any lies, the WW Train Station has been Brick Miners idea, it has not been my idea, but how the interior should look like, which minifigs it should include, ...). It's created like I would like to have a WW Train Station!

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Brick Miner, you mentioned in another forum that you would perhaps build a WW train and a cableway in the same set. According to this I have to addit that I thought that the cableway should only include one gondola (or perhaps two as maximum) which is open and is mainly there to transport goods. Do you want to build a canyon with some rocks, the cableway from one to the other side and the train going through the canyon?

[Brick Miner]

...Do you want to build a canyon with some rocks, the cableway from one to the other side and the train going through the canyon?

yes, that was my thought, it was thinking of using this as reference...

it seems to me that LEGO tried to pack as many western themes into each set as possible. thus, you have a card playing (saloon style) table in FORT LEGOREDO, and why you have a bandit hideout and gold mine as one set. there are other examples, but basically im trying to do the same in my MOCs... pack as much into one set as possible. also, i think this overlay of western themes ties directly to the playability of each set.

that is why i think this cableway could be combine with other western themes, and made into one super-playable set.

im slowly realizing a "BOULDER PASSAGE" set for the train to pass through. it would also have a bandit hideout and traps similar to those seen in 6761, for robbery of the train. this cableway could also be included. this set also would also be focused on the wilderness aspect of the Wild West... something a little different, and not really explored in the official LEGO sets (with the exception of maybe the two larger indian camp sets).

- BrickMiner

[Klaus-Dieter]

A "boulder passage" would be a very nice idea. It's also possible to include a tunnel into this set. What about the little cottage I proposed this set should include? Should it partake of this set?

[Brick Miner]

a tunnel would be awesome, wouldn't it ??? i'll have to see how the piece-count on the MOC goes. if im low enough, maybe the two mountains will connect overhead.

that would be a fun set if it included (or was) a tunnel - BM

EDIT: oops, i forgot to comment on the cottage... im not sure i would included this in the set, as i don't want the western concepts to compete with one another. i think the set should mainly be a canyon (or tunnel) for the train to pass through where bandits rob the train. then it should included some secondary elements... so unless the cottage was the bandit's hide-out, it would draw away from the "main" point of the set. i think the bandit's hide-out should be more like a shack and small camp.

Edited June 5, 2007 by Brick Miner

[Piranha]

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[Brick Miner]

Hmmm now Brick Miner must get started on all these ideas

i see this is becoming my duty :-D

:-D Well at least you will never run out

thanks again for starting this thread, P. i have referenced it a few times now *y*

- Brick Miner

[Klaus-Dieter]

I've got some new ideas (This time the very last ones!?!?!?!?!?!?):

WW Indians at buffalo hunt

including some buffalo and three horses

minifigs: Indians' chief and two Indians

WW Rangers' Camp

a little meadow with shrubs and rocks, a tent with a bonfire

including some camping stuff, a dog, a pack horse and two horses

minifigs: two rangers

WW Prison Coach

a prison coach and some rocks with shrubs as the robbers' ambush

including a coach horse and two horses

minifigs: the robbers' boss, two robbers, two soldiers and a captain

WW Court

a court (first floor: little prison cell at the left side and a reception and stairs to upstairs on the right side, second floor: court room with tables and chairs)

including some books

minifigs: two soldiers, a sergeant, a judge, a robber and two citizens

So, that's it!

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Besides, does anybody know how I can insert my country flag in my profile?

Edited June 6, 2007 by Klaus-Dieter

[Brick Miner]

WW Indians at buffalo hunt

including some buffalo and three horses

minifigs: Indians' chief and two Indians

that is my second most desired new mold... id love to see a buffalo, similar to the three piece horses. buffalo are really a beautiful animal *wub*

i know a lot of new elements were introduced in the 1997 WW line, but i think this was an important one that didn't get released.

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Besides, does anybody know how I can insert my country flag in my profile?

no, that is something assigned by the admin team.

- BM

[Piranha]

that is my second most desired new mold... id love to see a buffalo, similar to the three piece horses. buffalo are really a beautiful animal *wub*

i know a lot of new elements were introduced in the 1997 WW line, but i think this was an important one that didn't get released.

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no, that is something assigned by the admin team.

- BM

:-) Thats a great Idea,I'd love to see some African buffalo being hunted by indians :-D

Hmm thats not a bad idea,for the next New theme

African Safari:

There could be lions,elephants.............wait off topic there

Being serious, I think you mean Bison

Why not elk,Grizzly bears,feral pigs

Having seen bison in real life

At first you think they are cute

Then as you get closer they are huge

Like us tourists will actually read the sign that said

"Danger,Bison have been known to gore people"

X-D

Us americans take pride in calling our native animals, bison(however we did almost hunt them to extinction.....)

Yum Yum Bison Jerky

Piranha

[Berry Syedow]

I'm not sure if these have been mentioned already, but here they are:

The Cattle Herder: Includes a cowboy/rancher on horseback guiding his cows to their destination along with a hound of some sort to keep them in check. It would be a fairly cheap set and would be a great way to collect cows. ~Retails for around $8

The Standoff: Includes two figures having a draw on a fairly small and narrow baseplate with a few building facades on either side. ~Retails for around $15-20

The Coffin Crafter: Includes a small shop that produces coffins. Inside we can see the store owner measuring some poor chap who's due for a shootout along with the shop owner's desk, pet owl, and various wooden coffins.

~Retails for around $35-40

TLC could also produce fig packs involving bandits, army men and officers (both blue and grey), rich folk and gamblers, and the average town folk.

That's all I've got, so far.