Ideas For new sets(Wild West)

[zouave]

The problem with a new WW theme is that the market is made for children.If the theme didn't do well with kids before how do we know it'll work now.

Although I'd like to see the return of WW just as much as everyone else.

Edited June 23, 2007 by zouave

[WesternOutlaw]

I actually would like to see some Civil War type sets. I'm not real fond of the idea of a cotton plantation, but some Confederates vs. the Union (like Playmobil has offered) would be a neat idea. I doubt Lego would ever do this, but if they ever make a historic theme, we might see it.

I prefer more the gunslinging WW town type sets, but Civil War sets would be neat too, and it would offer building/structures of some kind (forts, outposts, etc.).

In regard to the future of a Lego WW theme, we would almost need to see a blockbuster Western adventure movie for kids (like Pirates) to draw interest. Without that interest, I doubt we see a return of Lego WW sets. A more realistic hope is for Lego to add an old steam train to their hobby trains and some WW related train structures (i.e. a water tower, windmill, general store, etc.).

[zouave]

A blockbuster movie would help.And your right about needing more structures.

Another thing they need is a new variety of minifigs.(The old ones got annoying after a while.)

A blockbuster movie would help.And your right about needing more structures.

Another thing they need is a new variety of minifigs.(The old ones got annoying after a while.)

BTW I'd love to see a civil war theme.

[Klaus-Dieter]

But I don't understand why WW sets should only be made mainly for kids.

I mean: On the one hand there would be a lot of kids who would buy new WW sets if they wouldn't be too expensive and if Lego would do enough public remotion, like for example a little television commercial.

On the other hand: Aren't there a lot of exclusive Lego sets comming out this year (for example Caf

[Brick Miner]

to be honest... there is a part of me that doesn't want the return of the WW theme. i have never expressed interest in this, and would actually never tell LEGO i wanted it to come back.

confused ???

well, what fun would MOCing a saloon be, if LEGO already gave us one ??? and likewise, with a stagecoach, etc... the only set i would really like to see is a "hobby" or "factory" steam engine... complete with all the new parts necessary to make a real steam engine. large rear wheels, pistons, etc... then i could convert it to SYSTEM, and make it fit with the old 1996 theme.

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so why ask for LEGO to make these sets ??? lets make them ourselves ;-) i think this is one of the major reason why i like this theme, there are a lot of MOC potential, and very little of it covered by official sets.

- BrickMiner

EDIT: oops !!! i forgot to comment on your ambush set, piranha !!! i really like the concept, and i think the adaptation of the dynamite and technic spring into a boulder set is perfect... its actually one of the features that is going to appear in BOULDER PASSAGE 6784.

i do have one comment (suggestion ???) about your characters... i think if you want your MOC/set ideas to feel like official LEGO sets, that you want to tell as much of the characters story that you can by their looks alone. LEGO was very good a visually developing their WW characters. each has a lot of personality, and furthermore, each one is very unique. but very little was written about each one (if anything). so most of the story that is told to us is through their looks.

so my suggestion would be to try to write story that can be expressed through the character

Edited June 23, 2007 by Brick Miner

[WesternOutlaw]

to be honest... there is a part of me that doesn't want the return of the WW theme. i have never expressed interest in this, and would actually never tell LEGO i wanted it to come back.

confused ???

Say what? I am confused. I for one have always wanted to see Lego offer new WW sets. I thought that was the topic and discussion of this thread??? *wacko*

[Brick Miner]

Say what? I am confused. I for one have always wanted to see Lego offer new WW sets. I thought that was the topic and discussion of this thread??? *wacko*

well, there are two way to interpret the thread. new ideas for WW sets (... that i want LEGO to release) OR new ideas for WW sets (... that we can build).

im actually having a lot of fun "filling out" the WW theme. if LEGO were to release, tomorrow, a saloon, stage coach, train, ghost town, post office, etc... it would excite me, and at the same time, disappoint me. within one week of the first release of these new sets, i would have them all. then they would sit in my collection collecting dust. and i would be far less interested in creating WW MOCs, if there was already an official set of it... for example, i can't even imagine building a bank MOC for LEGOREDO... because we already have a great one in gold city junction. so why build a saloon for LEGOEREDO if LEGO released a great one in this new line.

personally, im getting so much more out of the theme, by interpretting this thread as, "new ideas for WW sets that we can build." this is one reason i don't care for playmoblie... LEGO isn't just a set-it-up kind of toy. we can conceptualize new sets, and actually build them.

don't get me wrong, i would love some new elements for the WW, though. vulture, bonnet, etc... and if LEGO released more WW sets, i wouldn't object... but i think there is a part of me that would be disappointed :-$

- Brick Miner

[WesternOutlaw]

personally, im getting so much more out of the theme, by interpretting this thread as, "new ideas for WW sets that we can build." this is one reason i don't care for playmoblie... LEGO isn't just a set-it-up kind of toy. we can conceptualize new sets, and actually build them.

I use Lego and Playmobil sets for story as do children use sets for play. It's sort of like applying adult imagination to the theme(s). Having new WW sets would just give us more to work with (as you mentioned, more specialized WW pieces) from which to work with. Not to mention new WW torsos, signs, etc.

In regard to Playmobil, it is true that they don't provide the opportunity to build many variations as does Lego, but one can still set up towns, cities, and specific scenes using the pieces; sort of like model railroading with pre-built pieces. Although some pieces may be pre-built, one still has to put it all together in a nice diorama/display.

Either way, I join those wanting Lego to bring back the WW theme, and this is one thing I always thought we agreed upon.

[Piranha]

Thanks for all the feedback :-)

Now I must think of what set to flesh out next

Its hard work :-D

I have this strange feeling that I am gonna build these two ideas very soon ;-)

Hmmm forgot to mention but

BM-you mentioned having more ideas and not sharing X-O

That makes two of us then >:-)

Piranha

[Brick Miner]

Either way, I join those wanting Lego to bring back the WW theme, and this is one thing I always thought we agreed upon.

you know what... scratch what i said. as we have talked about before, if LEGO were to release a new WW theme, it would most-likely be much different than the 1996-1997 line. so, even in light of new sets, i could still continue MOCing and "fill out" the old theme. now that i have thought about it some more, i don't think it would effect my MOCing that much.

and in fact, i could even incorporate some of the new elements into the 1996 styled line.

that is probably how i would handle a 2008 WW release ;-)

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i did do some more thinking on the building "climate" we currently have for the WW theme. it seems to me that LEGO introduced enough sets in 96-97 to spark creative thinking. yet we weren't given so many sets that it watered down the customizable aspect of the line. i like that. for example, if LEGO would have continued the line and filled it out more, we would have less things to MOC :-D and that wouldn't have been as fun from the building perspective, but it would have been more fun from the collecting perspective. and both are excellent aspects to the hobby *y*

i do realize that you like story telling B... and i like the connection you made to childhood. it makes a lot of sense. thanks for sharing that *y*

however, i think for me, the WW line is letting me be the toy producer. and that's pretty cool. i can conceptualize and build sets, like i am working on the creative developing team. that is why you see my MOCs follow the strict rules of SYSTEM techniques and age appropriateness.

to sum it up, i like pretending that i am LEGO :-D and i wouldn't want LEGO to take that away from me ;-)

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Thanks for all the feedback :-)

Now I must think of what set to flesh out next

Its hard work :-D

I have this strange feeling that I am gonna build these two ideas very soon ;-)

yes it is hard work, but isn't it worth the reward ??? i love what you have done here so far, and i think it shows a lot of dedication to your work... its admirable, really.

- BM

Edited June 24, 2007 by Brick Miner

[Klaus-Dieter]

Say what? I am confused. I for one have always wanted to see Lego offer new WW sets. I thought that was the topic and discussion of this thread??? *wacko*

I agree with you, TheBrickster! I thought that this is the topic of this thread!

[Brick Miner]

yes KD, i wish i would have said what i said, i seem to have killed the momentum on this thread :'-(

- BM

[Asuka]

yes KD, i wish i would have said what i said, i seem to have killed the momentum on this thread :'-(

- BM

Nah, you didn

[Brickadier General]

In regard to the future of a Lego WW theme, we would almost need to see a blockbuster Western adventure movie for kids (like Pirates) to draw interest. Without that interest, I doubt we see a return of Lego WW sets. A more realistic hope is for Lego to add an old steam train to their hobby trains and some WW related train structures (i.e. a water tower, windmill, general store, etc.).

I'm not too sure if a big Western movie would lead Lego into releasing more WW sets. They didn't revive the pirate theme in the last few years, despite the success of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies. Of course, I know that Mega-bloks got the license to make sets based on the movie, so perhaps that's why Lego didn't bother.

And an old time steam engine would be great. If Lego were to make one, they should throw in a working hand cart with the train, along with a couple bandits to recreate a train robbery.

[Piranha]

yes KD, i wish i would have said what i said, i seem to have killed the momentum on this thread :'-(

- BM

:-D No you didn't

I've been busy or else I would have said something earlier

I am still thinking of New fleshing out stories

So this thread is not finished yet ;-)

yes it is hard work, but isn't it worth the reward ??? i love what you have done here so far, and i think it shows a lot of dedication to your work... its admirable, really.

You bet it is....

Thank you for those kind words :-)

Piranha

Edited June 28, 2007 by Piranha

[Brick Miner]

:-D No you didn't

I've been busy or else I would have said something earlier

I am still thinking of New fleshing out stories

So this thread is not finished yet ;-)

great, i really liked reading your ideas... i think you are on the right track for making your own WW series. i hope this thread does continue, as i think it is helping with your inspiration (perhapse others ???)... i think fleshing out the ideas and concepts behind these sets really helps propel imagination, and creativity.

-BM

[Klaus-Dieter]

great, i really liked reading your ideas... i think you are on the right track for making your own WW series. i hope this thread does continue, as i think it is helping with your inspiration (perhapse others ???)... i think fleshing out the ideas and concepts behind these sets really helps propel imagination, and creativity.

-BM

Like all the others here I think that you haven't killed the momentum on this thread, Brick Miner!

But I was a bit disappointed when I read that this forum should be there to post your MOC ideas and not your wishes for new WW sets.

I personally don't like WW MOCing very much. I separate strictly between official Lego sets and MOCs. That's why I would never put together a MOC of mine and an official Lego set. Consequently I would like much more TLC to release some new WW sets than to build some by myself.

But I know that this is my oppinion and I respect that you, Brick Miner, would prefer to make MOCs. That's comprehendible because your WW MOCs you have shown us until now are no MOCs but brilliant and more than 100 % perfect unofficial WW Lego sets.

you know what... scratch what i said. as we have talked about before, if LEGO were to release a new WW theme, it would most-likely be much different than the 1996-1997 line. so, even in light of new sets, i could still continue MOCing and "fill out" the old theme. now that i have thought about it some more, i don't think it would effect my MOCing that much.

I don't think that TLG could create some new WW sets which will be much different to the old ones. There are only two possibilities to create new WW sets:

In the style of the 1996-1997 line (which would be historically very correct) or a Ghost Town line similar to that in your MOCs, Brick Miner.

So, what should there be different to the old sets?! Of course Lego could produce some very different WW sets (like the new "Castle" sets), but that would be ugly because you then couldn't really realize that these sets belong to the WW theme and not to some fantasy or horror theme.

[Brick Miner]

Like all the others here I think that you haven't killed the momentum on this thread, Brick Miner!

But I was a bit disappointed when I read that this forum should be there to post your MOC ideas and not your wishes for new WW sets.

I personally don't like WW MOCing very much. I separate strictly between official Lego sets and MOCs. That's why I would never put together a MOC of mine and an official Lego set. Consequently I would like much more TLC to release some new WW sets than to build some by myself.

But I know that this is my oppinion and I respect that you, Brick Miner, would prefer to make MOCs. That's comprehendible because your WW MOCs you have shown us until now are no MOCs but brilliant and more than 100 % perfect unofficial WW Lego sets.

hmmm... that

[Piranha]

and yes, there is a part of me that wishes a LEGO rep sees my MOCs, and decides to make them into the new official sets. then i would be all for the return of the west :-D :-P

- BM

Wouldn't they have to ask you to come be a set designer then you show your ideas and they say ok :-D

That's gonna be real hard to do...........

So keep up the ideas everyone or why not try and flesh out some ideas

it is kinda hard but fun to do

Man Vs Ghost's is so unfair

We would loose in like a second :-P

Piranha

[Klaus-Dieter]

This time no reply to a set proposal or something similar, but I have bad news which concerns the possibilitiy of new WW sets:

I've already posted an article in the Indiana Jones forum.

I found some interesting news while browsing www.lego.de:

http://www.lego.com/deu/info/default.asp?p...=&archive=false

And here the same article - but in English:

http://www.lego.com/eng/info/default.asp?p...=&archive=false

So, what does this news tell us?

I think according to these many sets which are based on Lego adventure theme there will be no chance to get WW sets in the next years.

Very bad luck for us!

[WesternOutlaw]

So, what does this news tell us?

I think according to these many sets which are based on Lego adventure theme there will be no chance to get WW sets in the next years.

Very bad luck for us!

Perhaps I'm missing something. How does the article indicate that we will not see a new WW theme?

[Brick Miner]

Perhaps I'm missing something. How does the article indicate that we will not see a new WW theme?

im not sure im gathering that either from the article, KD. unless, you mean that LEGO seems to be more interested in licensing from lucas than creating there own series (aka adventurers)... perhaps you mean it is not likely to get another WW theme, until lucas makes a western ???

:-D

- BM

[Klaus-Dieter]

Since I am struck that I expressed me vaguely, here an explanation what I wanted to say:

Indiana Jones is a kind of adventure theme. It seems that TLC awaits more profit when releasing some Lego sets under licence than creating some own new sets. But too many licenced sets of too many films might one day be TLC's undoing. But that's in this discussion not really the point.

The point is that when there will be released some adventure-like sets - here the Indiana Jones sets - in the next years, then it's unrealisitc that there will be another adventure theme - here some new WW sets - because otherwise Lego would compete with itself.

Look at e. g. the Adventure sets (1998-2000 ??) in the past. TLC stopped releasing WW sets after 1997 and started to release Adventure sets. There have never been two adventure themes at the same time.

Consequently we will have to wait until 2010 to see some new WW sets - if at all.

Perhaps you now don't agree with me and perhaps it's in reality not the case and we will see some new WW sets in the near future (I hope so!) - but I personally don't think so.

[Brick Miner]

ok, that actually makes sense to me, KD. now i understand what you ment ;-)

i have always felt that the cancelation of the western theme and the introduction to the adventurers in 1998 was connected in some way... as if the two lines would compete against one another. so in that regard, i agree. though personlly, i think there are far greater elements pulling us away from a new (traditional) WW line.

- BM

[Norro]

and yes, there is a part of me that wishes a LEGO rep sees my MOCs, and decides to make them into the new official sets. then i would be all for the return of the west :-D :-P

Me too! Though given our building styles I think you're the far more likely candidate! ;-) X-D

God Bless,

Nathan