CMF Mafia - Day 3 - The Mermaid's Song

[Scubacarrot]

Seems pretty close to Cute nicknames and a play to me. You can't help it, can you?

And yeah, seems pretty odd. We'd need more information to make a valid judgement though, the way I see it.

And if someone has a tracker or watcher claim they want to mention, I suggest they contact Helen. If that doesn't exist, that speaks in the favor of that person.

So Melinda. You thinking of contributing, showing up? Or just going to fly right under the radar? And not answer concerns and questions? I can guess...

[Mencot]

I've been talking to Melinda in private, yes and we echanges ideas and expressed similar ideas in thread; what's the problem?

You don't get my point; I was trying to get rid of Kristel whom was an alleged Vanilla Townie to try and confirm Derek.

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Like killing of townies do you? Where is your buddy Melinda now actually, haven´t seen her around for a while... or seen her I have but have she gone mute?

Your general behaviour is off, you are very nonchalant about the situation and it makes me uneasy. It's hard to question you because you hardly contributed anything.

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I know a person, who is that also. That person likes to eat faces, does it ring any bells!

Vote: Tickles (TinyPiesRUs)

Great case Pamela, you didn´t find any HP quotes.

I have a claim I find dubious.

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What does everyone think of this? Am I crazy or do I have a point?

No if you have some good lead then work on it that we can get those scumballs

[Hinckley]

Looking over my conversations with Fiddle-Wumkins I found this:

Fiddle-Wumkins: Well, I suppose since Cecilie was a vampire that must indicate she wasn't the investigator. Kingsley wasn't very monstery and neither are the faith healers according to you.

Me: Remind me of your alter ego again.

Fiddle-Wumkins: It's, without a doubt, a non-human monstery monster.

So, in his/her inane ramblings about how Derek couldn't be trusted he/she talked him/hersself into this weird corner. He/she admits that Cecilie couldn't have been the cop because she was so monstery but he/she is definitely a monster and claims to have an Action. Yet still says that the claim is "too convenient" and is only being "pulled off" because nobody has counterclaimed. This person is full of inconsistencies. It's like a fun game going through the conversation to see what doesn't match. I think I'll try to match up the posts in thread with what was said in private now to see if I can find any more.

Here's another gem:

Me: I didn't tell Derek what your alter ego is but two others know.

Fiddle-Wumkins: Is it the Faith Healers, or Flagsnort the Filly and Dog-Nozzle the Dolphin?

Fish for roles much?

[Hinckley]

Vote: Tickles (TinyPiesRUs)

Why?

Such loquaciousness

Great case Pamela, you didn´t find any HP quotes.

You three get on a person you know can't speak in anything but movie or song quotes. You want her to find songs about lynching Tickles the Clown, darlings?

Mikakatata, you call her out even though you clearly remember that she is cursed. Once again, you and the curse. Ping.

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Found another one for Fiddle Wumkins:

Day One:

Fiddle-Wumkins: Teetlebum the Turtle is clearly Town because *redacted*.

Day Two:

Fiddle-Wumkins: Teetlebum the Turtle is pinging me hard. *redacted* just doesn't work. I wonder if he's made a mistake somewhere.

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*redacted* is the same phrase in both sentences.

[Piratedave84]

You three get on a person you know can't speak in anything but movie or song quotes. You want her to find songs about lynching Tickles the Clown, darlings?

Mikakatata, you call her out even though you clearly remember that she is cursed. Once again, you and the curse. Ping.

I remembered that after someone pointed it out!

I'm very curious about Fiddle-Wumkins.

Helen, has he/she got back to you?

[Hinckley]

Helen, has he/she got back to you?

Maybe.

[Scubacarrot]

Can't she find someone to relay her messages?

[Piratedave84]

Can't she find someone to relay her messages?

I offered, I don't know if god would allow it though.

[Hinckley]

Have we asked? God allowed me to quote myself.

I guess that's not really the same...

[Piratedave84]

I haven't, I only told Pamela I could relay her messages

Maybe.

Isn't your curse over

[MetroiD]

So Melinda. You thinking of contributing, showing up? Or just going to fly right under the radar? And not answer concerns and questions? I can guess...

I was thinking of lots of things. And none have really worked, apparently. For the time being, I'll just

Unvote: Kelly Lester (Kristel)

[Mencot]

You three get on a person you know can't speak in anything but movie or song quotes. You want her to find songs about lynching Tickles the Clown, darlings?

Mikakatata, you call her out even though you clearly remember that she is cursed. Once again, you and the curse. Ping.

Hey I didn´t I ask her that didn´t she find something to quote with?

I remembered that after someone pointed it out!

Look who is talking "Mr. I am too good to answer any questions in the right way", If I see clearly you pointed Pamela out also. PING (annoying)

I was thinking of lots of things. And none have really worked, apparently. For the time being, I'll just

Unvote: Kelly Lester (Kristel)

Will it take you long to come up with something that works in trying to kill of townies, scummy scumball

[jimmynick]

He/she certainly is adorable (just look at those eyes!) but what Helen has paraphrased from conversations with Fiddle-Wumkins is pretty suss and self-contradictory. I hope Fiddle-Wumkins gets back to Helen so they can sort it out one way or another.

We can't vote for Fiddle-Wumkins in the absence of a name, but I am suspicious of Minkatta for a number of reasons. She's responded to my accusation by saying:

Back on day one in on point, yes I was but I wasn´t the only one that didn´t immidiately trust the claim. But when the real facts got out, I didn´t drive that lane any more.

And ofcourse I wanna get rid of a scum.

Don´t you Jeffrey want to get rid of the scums?

The very quotations I provided in my accusation indicated that Minkatta continued her hard line against Derek after he claimed. And, of course, I want to get rid of the scum, so I Vote: Minkatta (Mencot)

I was thinking of lots of things. And none have really worked, apparently. For the time being, I'll just

Unvote: Kelly Lester (Kristel)

Do you have an opinion about this claimed but inconsistent tracker, Fuddly-Wubbles?

[Mencot]

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The very quotations I provided in my accusation indicated that Minkatta continued her hard line against Derek after he claimed. And, of course, I want to get rid of the scum, so I Vote: Minkatta (Mencot)

You make a great "case" here against me Jeffrey , lets take a look on your comments on day 1 shall we:

"Little explanation to what is happening here, people start voting for Derek who seem like a scum coming with something like that on day one and yes I voted also for him"

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People had been pointing fingers at Sally earlier in the day; I want to keep her in mind. She is by no means a better lynch than Derek. Scummy claim - best lynch:

Vote: Derek Polanes (DarthPotato)

Here you jump on the Derek vagon, babbling something about Sally but choosing Derek as the votevictim!

Dio mio, there's been a lot of talk! Back in the days of the Spanish Inquisition, head-chopping was not by democracy.

If Derek is town, then he's extrapolating from one datum. If he's scum, you're right, he has a large enough data set to generalize.

The correlation of alter egos and roles was a game breaker last time, so if this time I were given, say, "Fortune Teller" and "Cop" I should think it's by coincidence, not by design. I (and I think anyone else) wouldn't extrapolate from one sample to the population.

The fact that Derek has insisted that alter egos correspond to roles suggests he has inside information. On Day One, that says scum. I'm keeping my vote where it is.

Whoa what a piece of Bulls**t FLIFF FLUFFER

Now it gets intresting, people started to unvote Derek and so does Jeffery with this comment:

Mikatta is listed as the "forest witch", but when she said:

I interpreted it as a revelation of her alter ego. I mean, why contribute that info unless it's something that people don't know? After the fact, Mikatta herself confirmed that:

No-one's driving a witch hunt against you.

Hey that comment is based on one of my comments, nothing but Filling the air of the daythread again!

The first claim of Derek's, that not all of us have monstrous alter-egos, seems to hold water because of the claimed faith-healers. His second claim, that actions are related to alter-egos, is still in the air. But since the first claim is more credible than it was when I voted for him, so:

Unvote: Derek Polanes (DarthPotato)

If someone gets lynched, it's because there's a consensus that they're scummy. If the wagon had stayed on Derek, it wouldn't have been just your doing. I was in there, You're very self-aware, and it that looks like you have something to hide. So:

Vote: Kingsley of the Starfish (KingoftheZempk)

Yea thats nice of you Jeffrey to give such a nice comment why you choose to skip over from the Derek vagon to the Kingsley vagon instead. Really smooth

So look who is talking scumbo, I never got of the vote for Derek on day one and on day two (or already on the end of day 1) I believed Dereks claim.

You ofcourse knew that he was town because a scum would know that but then did you also know that Kingsley was town so it was easy to jump over onto that lynchvagon!

[jimmynick]

So look who is talking scumbo, I never got of the vote for Derek on day one and on day two (or already on the end of day 1) I believed Dereks claim.

You ofcourse knew that he was town because a scum would know that but then did you also know that Kingsley was town so it was easy to jump over onto that lynchvagon!

Why did you believe Derek's claim by the end of Day 1 but not unvote him?

[Hinckley]

Trusted advisors have suggested I reveal Fiddle-Wumkins, whose responses have not helped his case at all.

So, here it goes...

I'm nervous.

If it's really our tracker, I don't want to get him lynched.

But I doubt he's really the tracker.

Though, the lack of responses has certainly been telling.

For example, Dragonishki stopped by and didn't even comment. He's not Fiddle-Wumkins, but if Fiddle-Wumkins is Scum, it would make me suspect Dragonishki more.

I know Dragonishki is busy IRL, but there was a clear case spelled out and I asked for feedback. So...

And Mikakatata ignored it too.

Revealing Fiddle-Wumkins...in a minute.

[Kristel]

Kelly you know, that question wasn´t meant for you right?

But when you now were so kind to comment on the question meant to Melinda and also Peter, why do you seem to defend them and seem when posting "Subtle." not wanna hear what they have to say?

The "So my question for you Peter and Melinda" kind of gave away that the question wasn't directed at me.

There was no defending of Peter or Melinda in my post. Rather, the "Subtle" was directed at you trying to get them to bring up the reasons for going after me, effectively deflecting attention and trying to steer the conversation to going over old ground again.

I have a claim I find dubious. ... Let's call him/her Fiddle-Wumkins the widdle duckling.

What does everyone think of this? Am I crazy or do I have a point?

It does seem odd that the widdle duckling didn't use his/her action to try and confirm our investigator.

[Scubacarrot]

My responses have helped but you're being weird and not reading what I'm saying at all. I'm the duck. I'm the tracker, and I'm town. There's nothing else to it, and I'm going to sleep now.

[Tamamono]

In light of this new case brought out by Helen, I will Unvote: Tickles (TPRU), although my suspicions of him aren't quite gone yet...

Maybe our friendly neighborhood zombie can have clown for dinner tonight.

My responses have helped but you're being weird and not reading what I'm saying at all. I'm the duck. I'm the tracker, and I'm town. There's nothing else to it, and I'm going to sleep now.

If you're the tracker and you didn't think Derek was real, why not track him?? Why did you track Billygoat or whatever? What good would that do? If Derek was real, you'd have a cop, and if he wasn't, you'd get scum. By shooting in the unclaimed, you risked tracking a vanilla, which, if you got a no-visit, you likely did.

He/she admits that Cecilie couldn't have been the cop because she was so monstery but he/she is definitely a monster and claims to have an Action.

This, along with Sally claiming to Helen when she didn't trust her, is the smoking gun for me. If Sally has an action and is a monstery Monster, why can't Caitie have had one? Sloppy lying.

Vote: Sally Carrotine (Scubacarrot)

[Hinckley]

That made it easier, thank you.

Vote: Sally Carrotine (Scubacarrot) for being Fiddle-Wumkins.

And to catch everyone up on how I came to this conclusion, here's part of the game that has occurred completely behind the scenes:

This has the comments I made to my trusted advisers so I hope they all make sense in context:

Hey,

What's up.

Enough pleasantries.

Last time I talked to you for almost the whole game until there was no reason for you to do so anymore, and you were scum. I'm convinced there were a few tells in that conversation, and I am also convinced if you are scum, you are dangerous as balls.

So, if you don't mind, I'd love to have an in-depth discussion with you again this game.

With all due respect and with great greetings:

Scuba.

That's barely into day one. I'll skip some chit-chat, then:

I WILL be trying to be nice. In the game. Not to you, because I know you're not a little girl that get's offended when I tell them how it is.

Doubt much can be noticed, although the "pointing fingers" comment can be seen in a light that makes it interesting.

I meant more as in behind the scenes stuff. I don't know who you usually have PM's with right off the bat, but yeah. I will be sending some PMs that's always fun.

I don't know why I'm the only one who doesn't mind your attitude problem But, it is worth noting that we totally manipulated that in Ragnarok II.

"Pointing fingers" comment? What exact light does it need to be viewed in? Again, I didn't notice it.

Have fun PMing everyone, Scumbag.

Wouldn't be the first time a scum casually made a remark that can be viewed in different ways in different circumstances. Don't run of thinking I suspect KingoftheZempk any more than others, but it's the only thing that stood out to me. Other than me not understanding where Mencot's coming from at first. I wonder what significance the minifigures have. The game could be as easy as everyone in the town stating their corresponding minifigures and dealing with the doubles/odd ones out/the ones that come late to the party. If the game is following the same trajectory as the last one, that could very well be possible. But then there is me fearing that there is something to make sure than doesn't happen. Possibly a role the scum have?

Or perhaps there is more or less significance to the minifigures than I think.

What do you think about the minifigures people seem to be dealt?

Double post: this whole situation reminds me of Bob's game where everyone was dealt a city set except for the scum. Were you in that game?

Yes, but that's not what happened. The sets were just randomly assigned. Bob is just...Bob. I think asking people to reveal could give us a road map to Scum later, yes. We are likely to get someone dragging their feet, waiting for the rest to claim or a double claim. It would take time to watch the thread to see who stops by and I don't have the time right now. I'm heading to an appt.

Talk to you later. Have fun.

I've been thinking about asking people to reveal their minifigure, and I am starting to think it's a pretty good thing to be doing. If no one raised the idea yet, I will ask people to do it in the morning.

Of course, in the morning, he seemed to try to call me out for suggesting revealing our alter egos. I pointed that out in thread.

You've basically already raised the idea.

Yeah, and I didn't even know what was going on when I did it. I'm so good.

More chit-chat, then:

Ok. So, how's it going? Are you a Monster? If so, which one? I'm the Mummy.

I'm a monster, I'm the Cyclops.

So, you're the blocker then?

I'm not the blocker.

So, what is your take on the game now that we've had a full day...and it was quite eventful.

The game... Is very messy. I still refuse to believe Fortune Teller Cop is a thing. The claim seems too easy, too convenient when the timing was there. If he had said right away when the discussion started, hold up, I am the fortune teller and I am a monster, I am not making a mistake, I believe he would have been fine. If he had kept quiet, which with arguably the most important town role, he would, could, should have. His claimed role is the only one that can not be reliably tested either. I don't know, I don't believe it still. In fact, there's too much wrong with it to believe it.

Faith healers... Are a weird claim, according to mafia scum they are two or more protectors that each have a percentage to be succesful when protecting different people. It's too weird of a role for scum to claim, so the people that claimed them to you are probably fine. Mencot also pretty much cleared himself as a (vanilla) townie with that move he made right away. Unless the scum have more insight in the setup than we know, which they probably don't.

If by some chance we can confirm the Fortune Teller, I'd love for him to investigate you. You seem to be at the center of things, and I can't trust you. Actually, if Darth Potato investigates you I still wouldn't be able to trust you. Can't win.

Double post: Is not receiving a counter-claim enough for a cop to be confirmed?

Not 100%. I was uncontested in Ragnarok 2, because we knew we had killed the real investigator. Did that confirm me 100%. Let me rephrase. Should that have confirmed me 100%?

I understand you don't trust me, but I don't buy it since you are telling me all of your thoughts on the game. I am not talking to Darth Potato so if you want him to investigate someone you're going to have to talk to him yourself.

If Mencot has cleared himself by claiming Witch, how about the fact that I claimed Mummy uncontested and you claimed Cyclops with no counterclaim either? Are we confirmed by your logic?

Mencot's timing causes that to be so (in my eyes). I can't see any reason or way for him to succesfully do that while scum unless they'd have some serious insight into the set-up. I am telling my thoughts to anyone who'll listen. Don't see how that wouldn't fit with me being scummy. I think I have more chance of you slipping talking when you're scum than if we don't talk. How well did that work out last time?

It didn't, but you had the extreme luck/favor that the cop was dead before anything could happen or anyone could say otherwise. No one is dead yet, so neither is the cop. I think I'll go and tell him that I think he should investigate you. Thanks for the suggestion.

Later he says Mencot is pinging him the hardest.

Double post: Apparantly Darth Potato is not investigating you but someone else.

Yes, he has his own target so I told him to go for it. It's his role, so...

Just now you said you weren't talking to him.

About 30 minutes after we talked he sent me a PM, which at first made me suspicious of you. It turns out someone else had suggested he contact me.

We chat about my curse:

What ever do you mean?

Do you do anything special or are you vanilla? I apologize if you've already said.

Ahh, and you aren´t even allowed to speak about it. Just casually nod and put up a few fingers...

I am not going to say. Interesting question though.

I can say in private. Yes, I've been cursed.

I ask because you are being discussed as a good lynch for today.

Doubt it.

Doubt you'll be lynched or doubt I've been cursed? Or doubt you're being discussed as a lynch target?

The first and the third.

Double post: I think you're testing me. And it's annoying. Or you're scum.

I ask him again about DP because he's just cast doubt on him in the thread. I'll need to check what was said...

No. I'm not a fan of lying when I'm not Scum. You were being discussed. Though, now it seems more likely Legodad will be lynched. What do you think of him.

So, you are still suspicious of Darth Potato, huh? I'm not sure how I feel. I trust him mostly, but as we know from the last game, there's not many ways to confirm an investigator.

Legodad hasn't really struck me one way or the other. I'd have to read back. He's one of the ones that I always think is scum but never is. Or is that Captain Nemo? The fact that you can already say that you know who'se going to be lynched is slightly... amusing is the word that is appropiate, I think?

I am still suspicious of Darth Potato. It's all much too convenient for me.

Captain Nemo seemed like Scum even to the Scum in Ragnarok 2 until he claimed blocker. He's acting the same way this time.

I'm only talking to two other people about it, so it by no means indicates who will be lynched today.

The thing about the curse is that I've used this curse before myself, as a host. I wonder who got cursed with it.

I was thinking Legodad or Metroid because their reactions seemed to know I was cursed but wanting to draw out other reactions to it.

Do you mean who cursed you with it?

I think the Scum cursed me, so I think they could be Scum based on the feeling that they knew it was a curse before it was specifically pointed out. In that case, a couple people "missed" it too.

What sucks is I'd like to leave my info with someone in case I'm killed, but the only "verified" person was verified by Darth and that doesn't give me 100% confidence yet.

So there's according to you probably four scum, there is probably no serial killer, we have seen no evidence of that at least, and one of the scum is a trickster or curser or hexer or whatever you call it? I'm not sure that fits.

So you think the curser is a Townie? Is it you?

Anyways, what do you think about Bob. It was him that sealed the lynch?

I was just talking to Dave about that. He's either a Townie or it's Scum WIFOM to get rid of the blocker. He's never easy to read because he always plays that lame hardly paying attention style.

This is the exact opposite of what he said earlier:

Mencot is pinging me like it's nobody's business. He said claiming so early doesn't work. I wonder if he's made a mistake somewhere.

I've written him to find out why he's being such a dick to me in thread. He hasn't responded. He originally contacted me to ask if I was "cursed or something?" It seems like a "let's act like we don't know" message.

Hm. Odd. As it stands now, I'd vote for Bob.

That's what several other people are saying. I feel like lynching Kristel.

Though Bob does seem like an excellent candidate. However, I know how stupid some of the things Bob says can come off and he's usually a good decoy for the Scum to throw a lynch onto.

Skipping a few posts:

I can see why you think now that the trickster jester curse thing would be scum. That thing is pure evil.

Skip a few more, I tell him he's being quiet:

Am I? I have been keeping an eye on things in the thread, and didn't see anything. It's funny how Bob's seemingly way more suspicious of me but decides to vote for Mikatta who is actually super suspicious to me also at this point, but I can't see him as anything other than vanilla town due to his move on day 1. Am I wrong with that logic? Is it possible Bob is just trying to vote for someone when he's turned out scum we get into a thing for wether or not his vote had meaning/was on his teammate or something?

Also, Legodad. That guy is super interesting. And by interesting I mean suspicious.

I get nervous when lynching Bob. He's equally useless on either side. At least, publicly. In Ragnarok he was disappointed he was Scum because he wanted to start being more engaged and playing more aggressively and he was afraid that much of a change in his game would make people suspicious. If this is his first opportunity to be really engaged as a Townie, he's failing.

I think his explanation of Derek, Kingsley and himself as all of the Townies you were "trying to lynch". But, why did he not say that when I first pointed it out?

Double Post:

And something is bugging me about Darth. If people are claiming to him, why hasn't he done anything with his results? Why haven't you claimed to him?

WHy am I talking in questions still when I'm in PM and can actually megablocking state things???

Why would I have to claim to Darth? That seems like a terrible idea. Not quite as terrible as claiming to Kristel, but still terrible.

OK. Well, I haven't told him what you told me but two others know that you are the cyclops.

This is fishing, isn't it?:

The Faith Healers? Or, say, Pie and Dave?

It's the Faith Healers.

Why do you think I'm talking to Pie and Dave? Which Pie?

You said you were talking to Dave, and you always talk with Pie. CallmePie. If it's the faith healers, that's fine. I don't see them being scum. It's too weird.

I hope you're right. I don't like when you decide to trust something. You question everything. When you settle on the faith healers being trustworthy it makes me nervous.

Of course it can be megablocks, if they're both scum, sure, they can be scum in an elaborate play. Can I think of people that can pull something like that off? Sure. Are they in this game? No.

Double post: the chance that they are scum is for me very low. Especially because you seem to trust them. That doesn't mean anything, but I must say reading back in the Ragnarok PM we had, you had scum tells there. I don't see them here. Hindsight is a bitch.

I don't know that I trust them. I have no reason to trust anybody at this point. I suppose I trust Darth Potato the most, but that's even tenuous.

Why do you trust him? Solely for the reason that there was no counterclaim? What if Cecilie was the actual cop? Did you talk to Cecilie at all?

I didn't talk to her. I've worried about that too. What if she was the protector?

She's tenacious enough she probably would've claimed to someone, but what if she claimed to the wrong person. Even if not, how would the Scum know to kill her?

You trust the Faith Healers but not the investigator, huh?

Yes. Is that odd?

Looking at the people that are the Faith healers, think long and hard if you think those two would be able to pull off a stunt like that.

I thought that was more fishing so I answered like this:

I think they're capable of it. Isn't that the worry? That you'll be tricked by someone who hasn't shown the best skill in the past?

What about Darth Potato? Is he capable of such a ploy?

My God, this is only halfway through. I'll post the rest later...

I'll keep going now because this is where he really starts trying to undermine Darth Potato:

As I said before. The timing he's had is extremely convenient and he's only pulling it off because there has been no counter claim. Say Cecilie was the cop, didn't tell that to anyone on day (which is not impossible, as you might think the chance you'll die is so small) or maybe even to a scum (extremely unlucky). Who does Cecilie usually talk to from the people that are here now? She always talks to you, I thought. But why would DP claim cop then? He KNEW there was 99% chance that there WAS a cop. Was it to draw out the actual cop? How does that scenario work? Does he have access to the go-to person to claim to, namely you? Do the scum have more insight in the set-up than usual? I don't even know.

But this scenario requires too many if's. it's not really realistic. Darth Potato... I don't even remember how he plays. Fact of the matter is Darth Potato's claim is super, super convenient, and apparantly, can not be confirmed. I don't know, maybe I'm being dumb...

No, it's not dumb. It all bugs me too. Isn't that exactly what I got away with in the last game?

Didn't you claim on day two though? And you guys knew you killed the cop, right?

Yes.

Exactly, no one was dead when DP claimed, so the scum couldn't have killed the cop. Ugh, maybe Cecilie was going for the: don't ever claim as a cop on day one, which would be odd in this situation, but possibly correct as it was possible DP would be making plays with his first investigation. Did Cecilie ever try to raise more suspicion towards DP in the end? I don't think so? I checked, and she was even the first voter of Kingz. (that's what I call him now, his name is too long). That would indicate that Cecilie was no cop.

Double post: and with the faith healers and Kingz not being monsters that would indicate that the (main) roles are not monsters. A vampire is definitely a monster.

But Scuba is a monster and a PR.

We ramble for a bit. I suppose his conclusion was that Darth was Town but he never claimed to him and he contradicts the logic he used to get there and contradicts his conclusions when confronted about it. I found this as Scum in Ragnarok II. As much as you feel you're in with Town, sometimes the conversations turn back on themselves without you realizing you're contradicting yourself as long as you're having a positive conversation with the Townie.

Eventually we get back to another opinion on Mencot:

Double post: and Mencot, that guy is either an incredibly dumb towny, or an incredibly dumb scum. What I'm saying is that his intelligence isn't very high either way.

There's a weird interaction about my post in the day thread that's mostly uninteresting:

Mwahahahaha. You may never know.

You'd make a good lynch today.

Why is that?

You're not really helping us at all. You claim to be vanilla, I suppose? Yet your figure was killed in the last game. You're the smartest guy in the room, to be frank, and would be the most dangerous Scum and I'm pretty sure you've been fishing for the identities of the faith healers. That sum it up well enough for you?

I did not claim vanilla.

Double post: and I did not fish for the identities of the faith healers at all. I've tried to figure that out by looking at who reacted to DP stating that he had a non monstery monster, and got a good idea on one of them, but not the other.

Of course nobody comes right out and fishes.

Triple post: And I've been trying to be helpful, questioning things that weren't questioned, going over and bumping my thoughts off of you. Turns the people's up for lynch weren't very talkative. Are you testing me again? I hate that.

Well, what do you want me to do? Blindly trust you and spill everything I learned from Darth?

So, what's your Night Action then, hot shot? And what have you learned from it?

I don't want to megablocking claim to you. megabluck.

Double post: that wasn't directed to you... Shit. I'm the megablocking tracker. If I am dead tonight I will hate you forever and you won't get to play in the mafia game I'm preparing.

I meant the megabluck wasn't directed at you, you are in fact, not a megabluck, if that wasn't clear.

Then who exactly have you been working with? And what have you found? Who is cleared according to your results?

No one because I haven't cleared anyone. I tracked you, you were doing nuthing, I tracked Genaro, he was doing nuthing.

We aren't cleared from at least being the killer?

I'm surprised you never tracked Darth Potato as much as you suspected he was lying about being the investigator.

What do you think of Metroid? I think I'm onto something with him.

Don't know what to think of him, he's odd. I was thinking he maybe is a power role. I could track him tonight.

Obviously I suspect him at this point and am just going through the motions:

That would be really helpful. He's claimed vanilla. I kind of thought the same thing about him. He's either Scum or a PR and he's claimed vanilla.

I'd like to look at what he's posted. Maybe he's a good lynch for today.

Then I write the play...and the bulleted list:

You're a superdick. Everyone and their one-eyed mother in law can figure out that is me.

Double post: To answer your concerns though. You and Genaro were priority targets. I did not fully trust DP, but doing those was more important.

Why would we be more important? Why would you not verify a claim that you were so dubious about?

I left out your figure claim and all of your specific inconsistencies, PMing from the beginning. It could still be anybody.

I don't think the Town would have a tracker in this setup. Tracker is more suited for the Scum anyway.

As I state, this is what worries me about his defense:

I figured DP would not live long enough for it to matter, so I settled for tracking people that I thought were extremely important to track, you for obvious reasons, and Genaro because some made me really paranoid he was either scum or a power role, which is an excellent reason tot track.

If he thinks DP isn't going to live, he would need to believe that DP is the investigator.

Double post: That would only be true if we had a watcher, which we don't, because I exist.

Triple post: If DP was town, he'd be killed by scum, if he'd live too long, he'd be scum anyway.

Who made you paranoid about Genaro?

Double Post:

And if you thought he was dead, that would mean you believed he was telling the truth which you clearly did not as you kept trying to get me to doubt him.

*redacted*

Double post: I didn't try to get you to do anything, I was bouncing my thoughts off you. As I said before, he almost had to be town, but I couldn't get me to trust him, right? I can go get the megablocking quotes.

Triple post: You're the megablocking worst. I can see why people dislike you. Seriously I megablocking claim and you pull a play on me. megabluck those plays.

Quadruple post: No negativity intended, I still like you. Although i hate you.

I usually do make the Scum team pretty mad.

Yeah but I'm not scum. I'm town. I'm the tracker.

I heard you the first time.

All of Day Two you were trying to convince me that Darth Potato's claim was "too convenient". That would indicate you thought he was lying Scum, not that you don't trust him with your claim.

No that means that I thought it was too convenient.

Too convenient for what???

As I said before. The timing he's had is extremely convenient and he's only pulling it off because there has been no counter claim.

Pulling it off because there's no counter-claim means you think he is lying.

Don't spit on a cupcake and tell me it's frosting.

To sit with me alright.

You have a very tenuous hold on the truth here. We cross-posted. Scroll up.

Liar.

No that means I think it was extremely convenient.

Convenient for what????? That doesn't make any sense. Your justification is empty.

Stop posting at the same time I am.

I'm not a liar.

You are and so is your face.

My justification is not empty. I didn't know what to think about DP, would it be the first time I was wrong? No, and it won't be the last.

Nope, I'm not, you're not going to lynch the town's last indicative action.

Double post: and with the faith healers and Kingz not being monsters that would indicate that the (main) roles are not monsters. A vampire is definitely a monster.

You're definitely a monster so how exactly did this indicate that Cecilie was vanilla?

This justification is funny:

Tracker is not a main role. I don't even know if I am a soft or a hard tracker,

You don't think there's a reason for me to put the main there, do you? Also that got turned out to be wrong. There's a zombie around that I have doubts is a serial killer.

Well, whoever the zombie is, they're killing Scum.

Double Post:

Why would a Serial Killer choose not to kill on Night One?

Yes. They're the vig. They're called *redacted*, probably.

Don't be dumb, I said I had doubts they would be a sk, so they're the vig.

Triple Post:

Maybe they are a serial killer, but the Town lost it's blocker on Night One. Who did you guys block?

It was worth a shot.

Your pants are on fire.

You're not even listening to me, so how the megabluck am I supposed to show you I'm town. You're going to start the lynch on me and you're probably going to be succesfull as well.

MetroiD, Darkdragon, JamesN, Mencot all are contributing megablocking nothing and then I get megablocking lynched by you because you think you are soooo clever.

Well I'm not going to give up and I don't want to be lynched because I'm a nice guy like that.

What is the chance you are scum? I claim, you lynch?

And that's basically it.

[Piratedave84]

In light of the new evidence I am ready to unvote: Tickles (TPRU)

And

vote: Sally (scubacarrot)

Why did you not track Derek if you doubted him? You could have 'confirmed' him for us; it would have saved a lot of useless comments and bickering on day 2.

[Hinckley]

I asked *redacted* what they said that made Scuba so paranoid about Giovanni:

What do you think about Genaro? He's been incredibly quiet, with next to no posts overall and no post today. I guess He could be scum, or maybe a power role.

Genaro has done nothing so far. Could be either.

To me, that doesn't match this:

I figured DP would not live long enough for it to matter, so I settled for tracking people that I thought were extremely important to track, you for obvious reasons, and Genaro because some made me really paranoid he was either scum or a power role, which is an excellent reason tot track.

*bold added for emphasis...

[Hinckley]

Who do we have to megabluck to get a vote tally around here???

And what should be the final nail in Sally's coffin from *redacted*. Sorry you don't have a cuter name. I'll see what I can do.

We had the discussion just yesterday, by the way. Scuba can't have tracked Genaro as a result. I contacted him after I mentioned Genaro to *redacted as well*.

I'm tired. I meant to check that timestamp. Thanks Hippy-dippy!

Why am I hiding Hippy-dippy's identity? Sally is now clearly lying. So the Scum definitely know who I'm referring to.

Hippy-dippy wouldn't be able to explain this for herself today anyway.

[Peanuts]

Hippy-dippy wouldn't be able to explain this for herself today anyway.

Unvote: Trickles (TinyPiesRUs)

Vote: Sally (Scubacarrot)

[Hinckley]

Trickles? Does he have an incontinence problem?