DrJB Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 The Swing Loader Mk 2 by D3K definitely deserves a spot on this list ... http://www.eurobricks.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=85320 Quote
Meatman Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 While those mini supercars are awesome, and while they are meant to look like real Technic supercars, the mini models themselves are not Technic models. There are no Technic parts in them. I see the instructions for the 853 are for sale at mocplans. I thought $10 was for all 4 of them, but it is just one. I am still going to buy it though. Quote
Alasdair Ryan Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 While those mini supercars are awesome, and while they are meant to look like real Technic supercars, the mini models themselves are not Technic models. There are no Technic parts in them. There are some gears and pins,but your right the majority of parts are not technic. Quote
nychase Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 There are some gears and pins,but your right the majority of parts are not technic. What about Jennifer Clarks Demag Crane?! It is and always has been my favorite model. Does it get disqualified for using non-lego parts (I think thats a good general question anyway since other models use modified parts). Quote
Lipko Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I was thinking about purity too. I think the Hall of fame should include 100% Lego parts models with no gluing at least. Other than that purity is so shady that it shouldn't be that important. Quote
jorgeopesi Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I was thinking about purity too. I think the Hall of fame should include 100% Lego parts models with no gluing at least. Other than that purity is so shady that it shouldn't be that important. I agree with you . Quote
Moz Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) I think that when a major part of the model depends on completely non-Lego parts it's not good to have it in the Hall of Fame. Push that and at some point you've got a non-Lego model with some Lego bits decorating it, and where do you draw the line? For me, the line is "would not work without the non-Lego". With Jennifer's crane, take the metal bits out and it doesn't work at all, so it's not a good fit for a Lego hall of fame. edit: remember that there are people making metal Lego-compatible parts. Would a "Lego" rock crawler with a metal chassis and transmission go into the hall of fame? If not, why not? It'd definitely not be allowed in any of the trial truck contests, for example. Edited February 6, 2014 by Moz Quote
Kumbbl Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I agree with you . me too - only 100% pure Lego... concerning Jennifers crane: It is somehow outdated - in the meanwhile there are some mobile cranes at least at the same quality level but with 100% pure lego - just scoll some posts above and you will find one ;-) Quote
Jim Posted February 6, 2014 Author Posted February 6, 2014 Non-lego parts guidelines are pretty much like contest rules. Custom strings, stickers, chrome parts etc are allowed, but no non-lego metal parts etc. Quote
nychase Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) me too - only 100% pure Lego... concerning Jennifers crane: It is somehow outdated - in the meanwhile there are some mobile cranes at least at the same quality level but with 100% pure lego - just scoll some posts above and you will find one ;-) Under intense analysis I think you will find nothing compares to that crane and a studfull look will never be outdated so long as legos still have studs. Many models look like they perform well, this actually does everything its meant to do and more. Its a shame that it doesn't use 100% lego parts. So then the official rule is no metal? Not trying to be smart here but I am assuming that includes the actuators from Firgelli even though they are made for legos including the nxt cable connection. Edited February 6, 2014 by nychase Quote
jantjeuh Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 An exception can be made for that Demag crane by Jennifer IMO, it's a Technic classic, even though it uses some custom parts. Quote
Erik Leppen Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) An exception can be made for that Demag crane by Jennifer IMO, it's a Technic classic, even though it uses some custom parts. Why create exceptions? Exceptions only create more discussion about "why this one, and not that one". I don't think we should do that. If we agree on the rule 'no functional non-Lego parts' than we will have to judge by that rule, and that means that models not following that rule won't apply. No matter their quality. By all means discuss the rule, but please don't accept a rule and then create exceptions. Edited February 6, 2014 by Erik Leppen Quote
Meatman Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 An exception can be made for that Demag crane by Jennifer IMO, it's a Technic classic, even though it uses some custom parts. I agree about it being a classic, but if you make an exception for one person, then you almost have to do it for everyone. Only reason why is because I am sure there are other people that have built cranes that would have loved to have used custom parts but chose to find other methods using Lego. I also found it a bit amusing that right here at eurobricks there non Lego items featured on the frontpage, but since they are minifig, I guess it is ok. Quote
jantjeuh Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Well, it's a definite Technic classic that inspired a lot of people. I'd say the rule only applies to new MOCs Edited February 6, 2014 by jantjeuh Quote
Meatman Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Well, it's a definite Technic classic that inspired a lot of people. I'd say the rule only applies to new MOCs True, but you have to look at everything involved that helped make it a classic. Would it still be a classic if not for an edge with non Lego parts? As far as inspiring goes, the model that inspired me(and I am sure numerous others) to get involved in Lego again is one of the most viewed technic models at brickshelf and mocpages. But no offense to the builder but I wouldn't really consider it worthy of any type of Hall of Fame in 2014 because it is so dated by today's standards. Edited February 6, 2014 by Meatman Quote
aol000xw Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Anyways I don't think the backlog is going to go to.... ¿2008? Edited February 6, 2014 by aol000xw Quote
Kumbbl Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 Under intense analysis I think you will find nothing compares to that crane and a studfull look will never be outdated so long as legos still have studs. Many models look like they perform well, this actually does everything its meant to do and more. Its a shame that it doesn't use 100% lego parts. you have misunderstood me: for me studded is never outdated, overall i still love studded more than studdless (ist more lego, but probably this is a matter of taste).. what i had in mind with "outdated" is, that i think in the meanwhile there are at least one or two mobile cranes at the same niveau as jennifers, e.g.: well, jennifers chassis suspension is outstanding but on the other side her crane has only a two section boom.... anyway, let us not debate which one is better, i agree with you Jennifers Mobile crane is an epic model and incredible well designed but for me using non lego-parts is a no go... Compare Grazis Tow Truck which is at least as elaborated as jennifers crane (and has even more nifty suspension) but uses 100% lego... Quote
Choops Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 The Swing Loader Mk 2 by D3K definitely deserves a spot on this list ... http://www.eurobrick...showtopic=85320 I agree 100% Steve Quote
jorgeopesi Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Well, it's a definite Technic classic that inspired a lot of people. I'd say the rule only applies to new MOCs I never have been inspired by a custom MOC because it uses non-lego parts instead think more about not having to use. Quote
jantjeuh Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Well, that's your opinion. I know a lot of people who have been inspired by it Quote
Kumbbl Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 i think also that in general Jennifers MOCs are at least one of the "initial sparks" for such outstanding "highend"-MOCs and have inspired many builders ... Quote
aol000xw Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 (edited) I think that focusing on the future of the HoF and not the glorious past of custom models is a more sensible aproach. Everyone knows what inspired them, so why don't you just build, become HoF worthy and inspire others? edit: and when I say you (stupid english) I am not addressing a single specific individual Edited February 7, 2014 by aol000xw Quote
jorgeopesi Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 Well, that's your opinion. I know a lot of people who have been inspired by it Of course that it is my opinion and I don´t need coincide with a lot of people to express. I think it's it is a bad idea or just a bad name for a thread because we will never all agree, again is just my opinion as usual . Quote
jantjeuh Posted February 7, 2014 Posted February 7, 2014 I think that focusing on the future of the HoF and not the glorious past of custom models is a more sensible aproach. Good point. Maybe we need a separate 'ye olde classic Technic MOCs' thread Quote
Lakop Posted February 8, 2014 Posted February 8, 2014 I was thinking about purity too. I think the Hall of fame should include 100% Lego parts models with no gluing at least. Other than that purity is so shady that it shouldn't be that important. I agree with this. H Quote
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