egoing Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 Someone over at RTM has said a megablok spokesman now has the Spider-Man 3 movie license. Well, i guess this saves me from bothering to buy bloks. Quote
Jipay Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 Well if lego had to renue the licence after spiderman 2, they wouldn't have. They said they were done with movies licences and won't renew those :/ By the way I doubt any megablock spiderman figure could ever be as nice as the one lego has done :) Quote
The Middleman Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 DAMN! If Venom is the next villain, we would've gotten a Venom minifig. :/ With all the new stuff they're doing, they'd probably have done some good city buildings as well. Oh well. :'( Quote
Darkkazmo Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 It is bad news for the Spiderman Line fans, but on the other hand its good news for the true AFOL community... LEGO should go back to it's original themes like the old days... But after seeing that Dino line, I'm not really sure LEGO is heading on the right track! :/ Quote
languages Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 I hope they continue with the Spidermanm line because there are a few neat sets. KEEP X:D SPIDERMAN Quote
snefroe Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 according to the Lego representatives in Belgium, tlc is going to limit the themes, limit the exotic component of themes (adventures,...) and has concluded that the traditional brick is back again... so dumping the spider-man theme is perfectly within their new strategy... besides, i don't think that the spider man licence has been very succesful... Quote
xwingyoda Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 This new TLC strategy is somehow bugging me regarding SW. How many of you, dear members, started to buy Legos again in 99 BECAUSE of th SW license. I'm sure quite a lot. So I guess that "this is the end, beautiful friend the end" (RIPJim)!!!! Quote
snefroe Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 i was thinking about exploring the licence idea as well in my last post. because the question what to do after Star wars, how to keep all the fans that came back to lego thanks to the star wars licence, is probably the most difficult to answer by tlc. if i'm correct, tlc has a SW-licence unitll 2007. i think the hype will be over by then. tlc should have something to replace that. and it might be wise to have something by the end of 2006, meaning they should be thinking about it already. the same with the Harry Potter line. i don't know when that licence will be ended, but the line is already losing popularity... i guess, tlc should try and set up new strong themes of their own, indepent from Lucasfilms or others. that way, they will always be in control of their own products. with the sw-licence for instance, they're stuck with unattractive release dates,... sure they can keep licences,... do you have suggestions that might be as succesful as sw? Quote
xwingyoda Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 I would still say keep the SW licence: there are so many sets that can be done!!!! (especially OT sets, and expended Unvierse sets) I would think its strange for TLC to turn its back on the "real" SW OT hardcore Lego fans!!! For the other licences oh well too bad!!! Anyway there are so many things and worlds to explore for TLC to keep regular Lego fans and attract new others!!! I wish they woul do a new "divers / underwater treasure hunters" (but do not get me wrong, regular divers and not some sort of Alpha Team dudes!!!!!) with an old sunked gallion (...). I also wish to have a new Pirates line and a lot of more city sets (restorants, shops...) Wait and see what the future is :-D Quote
Ras 74 Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 A little sad. I thought there was some good sets in that serie. But I also understand LEGO. Instead of pumping money in all kind of directions they should go for their own stuff. Just like Darkkazmo said. And stop making those sets with big bulky pieces. Nobody want sets like that. If we did like that kind of stuff we could just start with Playmobil. Quote
snefroe Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 well i'd like to see a large space theme (12-20 sets a year, like sw), with at least half of those of 500 pieces, large and small, without junorised pieces/sets, intelligently built :oo :oo :oo but i think you're missing the point. 'cause, a good theme will not be enough to keep all of the sw fans. you need this recruiting element of sw. A millenium falcon is not just attractive because it's a well designed space set, no it's THE Millenium falcon. that is, in my view, the chalenge for tlc. for instance, the fbtb site is largely built around the sw theme/sets of lego. without new sw-sets, that might fall apart, therefore, that community might dissolve,... Quote
Bloke Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 Its sad news. I am not a spidey collector but sad for those that are. I have always wondered why Lego seemed to lose interest in the Discovery line. A modular Iss (space station) with lift up tops would really be good. Minifigs from all the countries involved could be used, and you could collect the modules to make one big space station...would be fun really. I must say lego do have some funny ideas lately..wonder what the future will hold. Dave Quote
Jipay Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 It's sunday so it's hard to get a confirmation for anything on sunday :/ I agree that star wars brought me back to lego but I also think that I can now live without it. It was just about rediscovering the pleasure of puting bricks together, creating things. Now most of the sets I buy are non star wars related. If they drop the star wars licence I think we will mostly lost the collectors which in my opinion won't be such a big loss. Now maybe lego will renew the SW licence... Quote
egoing Posted March 6, 2005 Author Posted March 6, 2005 according to the Lego representatives in Belgium, tlc is going to limit the themes, limit the exotic component of themes (adventures,...) and has concluded that the traditional brick is back again... so dumping the spider-man theme is perfectly within their new strategy... besides, i don't think that the spider man licence has been very succesful... Lego has decided they are completely through with Movie licensed themes? Will they continue with Star Wars beyond 2007 and the Harry Potter themes? Quote
Jipay Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 According to their original decision, they will stop ALL the movie licences. But they always change their minds so who knows. What could be dangerous in the case of star was is that if they give up the star wars licence and that megblock buys it ; it could become a serious problem :^^D Quote
The Middleman Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 I don't know about them killing the 'exotic' themes, I actually like those. Lots of fun pieces and buildings. As for Star Wars and Harry Potter, I think they'll follow both to their end. After all, only 2 waves of Harry Potter sets after this one, and they probably sell very well. Quote
Jipay Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 Well star wars is a special case : there is no real end. And the market is really big :/ Quote
The Middleman Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 The movies, I think, is where they will stop, because the EU market for kids is next to nothing. Quote
Jipay Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 Well I hope so. I think the fact that they release a sandcrawler is a good indication the line will end. Plus they've made already almost all the characters. Maybe only one or two sets are "missing". Quote
egoing Posted March 6, 2005 Author Posted March 6, 2005 According to their original decision, they will stop ALL the movie licences. But they always change their minds so who knows. What could be dangerous in the case of star was is that if they give up the star wars licence and that megblock buys it ; it could become a serious problem :^^D I'm of the opinion licensed themes expanded Lego elements and the enjoyment, even though a percentage of AFOL didn't like licensed themes. What i would have liked to have seen Lego take on was the Chronicles of Narnia. You just can't beat the quality of Lego and that's what i'll miss with their licnesed themes. Quote
egoing Posted March 6, 2005 Author Posted March 6, 2005 Well I hope so. I think the fact that they release a sandcrawler is a good indication the line will end. Plus they've made already almost all the characters. Maybe only one or two sets are "missing". The original trilogy Lego themes still hasn't seen a Wampa, TaunTaun various cantina mini figs. The prequel themes hasn't seen some ships the Naboo Royal Starship to name but one or jedi council mini figs ploo koon, ki adi mundi. (Seeing it in the lego sw video game makes me want it even more as an official set) It's far from done in my book. Quote
Jipay Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 All the sets you are speaking of are not aiming at normal kids market. you have to think in term of profitability and not what hasn't been done yet that you'd like to see. IE : a council romm of thge first deathstar with all the moff is an important scene in EP IV but would it sell well ? no Quote
xwingyoda Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 If TLC wants to end the SW licence, TLC should finish big, real big and give all the SW fans ou there a lot of sets until the end 2006. Without going to all the characters (which is impossible anyway), a lot of important scenes are missing, and they could redesign a couple of ships... Anyway, SW made me plunge into Legos (after a couple of years of abstinence :-D ), and I will definitly not stop because of a licence non renewal ;). Oh well, lets hope for the best (if its not like the crappy dino line :-D ). Quote
snefroe Posted March 6, 2005 Posted March 6, 2005 i think people still understemate the bad situation tlc is in. they ARE dropping exotic themes, they ARE streamlining their entire production. they ARE selling the Legoland themeparks. they ARE restyling some of the old productlines like Duplo. They ARE restructuring the company. because of that tlc sets are 20% cheaper than 20 years ago. all the decisions tlc is taking right now are basically focused on the question "how can we improve our financial position?" It's not a coincidence that they're rereleasing old sets that have hardly been changed or releasing combination of sets like the one with the starfighters and vulture droids (economies of scale: the more you produce the same unit, the lower the costs). what i do know about these licences is that they are expensive for tlc. even though they had a huge bonus with the sw-licence (the fact that we, AFOLs joined in), the other licences don't seem to be as succesful over the years. At some point tlc has got to ask herself "is it all worth this?". in case of sw, Yes, for know. but let's face it, sw is a hype, right know, Everybody is waiting for that last film. After that, sw will be old news again. i hope that jipay is right, and people will be buying lego in the future even though sw is gone, or even with sw... i disagree, but i'm hoping he's right right now, the major hit for tlc is the fire theme and duplo... so they might easily decide to loose the sw licence all the same... and what if mega-blocks get a sw-licence after 2007? what will be left to produce? A third version of the x-wing, snowspeeder, slave 1, falcon? it's also not clear how to see these licences in face of the restructuring of tlc. themes are no longer designed just in Billund. Regional headquarters are being developped and in time they will become responsable for the creation of themes for their own regions. we're already seeing that with the vikings and dinos. a licence for the entire group might become quite difficult to organise in such a structure... Quote
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