How about something without wheels or tires? PF with motors and remote, with both propulsion and steering tends to get boring after a while. Somewhere else I read that TLG gave a lego plastic injection molding machine to visitors ... How about a piece of industrial machinery ? Also, how about a boat/sub?

Edited March 9, 20168 yr by DrJB

How about something without wheels or tires? PF with motors and remote, with both propulsion and steering tends to get boring after a while. Somewhere else I read that TLG gave a lego plastic injection molding machine to visitors ... How about a piece of industrial machinery ? Also, how about a boat/sub?

I'm with you on this one. Space shuttle, submarine, ship, robotic arm, etc

I've had a go at a pneumatic octopus arm and also a cuttlefish with its propulsive fronds.

Mark

Sounds cool! Do you have pictures?

VOLVO FMX 6X6

Edited March 9, 20168 yr by Technictiger

VOLVO FMX 6X6

Isn't that, a sort of modified MB Arocs model type, released just half a year ago but under different brand?

Isn't that, a sort of modified MB Arocs model type, released just half a year ago but under different brand?

It could be an Arocs, but i dont know anybody who wants to build it... any technic fans here?

VOLVO FMX 6X6

Maybe you could be more specific about why this model appeals to you.

Why it appeals to me for example is it's 6x6 power train, the crew cab, the versatility of this machine...etc...

A good size farm tractor with a range of different implements :)

My wish, a UCS this:

With rear tyres from new Claas Xerion tractor and new front tyres to match.

4 wheel drive with planetary gear reduction inside the wheels.

Pneumatic functions powered by possibly new very powerful motorised compressor driving the following:

front bucket raise/lower (two 2x11)

front bucket tilt (two 2x11)

front bucket open/close (two 1x5)

rear stabilisers (two 2x11)

rear digging arm slew (one 2x7)

rear digging are slide side to side (one 2x11)

rear digging arm raise/lower (one 2x11)

rear digging arm bend (one 2x11)

rear digging arm telescoping (one 2x11)

rear digging arm bucket (one 2x11)

totalling 14 pneumatic cylinders!

front wheel steering

front tilting axle

rotating seat

fake engine

Highly detailed exterior

Possible new parts could include:

new motor with similar speed and torque of buggy motor in a PF format

new wheel hubs with planetary gear reduction,

new pneumatic manifold (like a t-piece but extended with 5 or more outlets and one or two axle holes for mounting),

new pneumatic in-line one way check valve

new pneumatic control valve with ports one the rear (instead of on the side) so they can be placed closer together and much finer (tapered) control.

new excavator style bucket for rear

new two part opening front bucket

new tyres for front to match rear tyres but smaller size

new compressor, same form factor as current fake engine cylinder block, one or many more can be seamlessly integrated into a fake engine.

Estimated cost: Don't care just take my money!

And as if I wasn't dreaming enough (what I have already wished for here would be amazing and the best ever!), a whole new system that would be better than LAs and pneumatics, HYDRAULICS using water which would include a little rotary pump with a similar form factor of the hockey spring block but with ports on either side.

Added estimated cost: really don't care!

Edited March 10, 20168 yr by allanp

My wish, a UCS this:

Just take my money....

My wish, a UCS this:

...

With rear tyres from new Claas Xerion tractor and new front tyres to match. Agreed

4 wheel drive with planetary gear reduction inside the wheels. Agreed

Pneumatic functions powered by possibly new very powerful motorised compressor driving the following:

front bucket raise/lower (two 2x11)

front bucket tilt (two 2x11)

front bucket open/close (two 1x5)

rear stabilisers (two 2x11)

rear digging arm slew (one 2x7)

rear digging are slide side to side (one 2x11). Only fair to ask. The 8455 was a US version (so-called center pivot). Wjat you're referring to is an EU version (called sie-shift), primarily for the narrow EU roads.

rear digging arm raise/lower (one 2x11)

rear digging arm bend (one 2x11)

rear digging arm telescoping (one 2x11) - Yes, extendahoe would be nice, though need some sliding mechanism

rear digging arm bucket (one 2x11)

totalling 14 pneumatic cylinders! - That would go in my book of records, after the 8455 with 10.

new pneumatic in-line one way check valve

I can not see Lego producing a pneumatic check valve.

They did, sort of. The old pneumatic system had one.

What would a single inline one be used for? I can't think of any need in the lego system for one.

Edited March 11, 20168 yr by Saberwing40k

Maybe you could be more specific about why this model appeals to you.

Why it appeals to me for example is it's 6x6 power train, the crew cab, the versatility of this machine...etc...

Hmm it is difficult and unique

1.Hyrail

2.Pantograph

3.Palfinger Pk 12502

4.Palfinger PA 2120

5.Palfinger crane arm with drilling unit

6.Rear stabilizers

Edited March 11, 20168 yr by Technictiger

I would like to see some specialized vehicles as technic sets.

The first would be a steel mill slab or coil straddle carrier, i guess we can all agree these beasts look interesting

While in the steelmaking department, ladle carriers also look great in my opinion

B model for this, given the wheels, could be a large tractor. The ladle itself could be a problem since it is a large round object.

Problem is i don't know the appeal these sets would have with the young lego target audience. One set i guess would be successful with everyone would be a proper, well done, large mining truck. Not articulated. Your standard big-as-a-house dump truck. IR-remote controlled, fake V12 engine, PF lights. Could be a licensed Liebherr/Caterpillar/Komatsu set. Could either use 6 unimog wheels or some newer, larger ones. I have seen MOCs of mining trucks using unimog wheels and they look great.

A large mining shovel would complement this perfectly. Could be done inside the new record number of parts set by the BWE.

Another great thing would be a continuous surface miner

They did, sort of. The old pneumatic system had one.

What would a single inline one be used for? I can't think of any need in the lego system for one.

Sometimes when you operate one pneumatic function, this will cause the pressure in the system to drop, so if by operator error you have another valve open which is being used to control a cylinder that is holding up some weight, that weight can drop unexpectedly. By placing a one way check valve in front of the valve it would prevent air rushing back out as another function is operated. Of course a check valve needn't be a separate part, it could be integrated into the in port of the valve for example.

Edited March 11, 20168 yr by allanp

I think we've exhausted vehicles over the last 10 -15 years or so, especially with the AFOL community offering mods/improvements to make TLGs products better. How many cranes, of all varieties, have we had since 2000?

As for flagship sets, the Unimog was an interesting build and a great platform for MODs, and I purchased the Arocs twice to hopefully find the same, but really, how many versions of a truck, digger, crane W.H.Y., do we need. I've yet to see the BWE in the plastic, so I reserve judgement until then.

So, where next?

• rollercoaster (Maybe with additional packs)
  
• fairground rides (lots of motion derived from one motor)
  
• a V8 internal combustion engine, with functioning inlet, and outlet valves run by proper cams, or even pneumatics)
  

Just some thoughts to get this topic back on track.

Well it's not what a set is based off of that makes it good or bad. So despite there being so many cranes already, I could see someone wanting another one if there was a new interesting feature or interesting new parts to it. Take a fire truck for example, like this one:

Ok, well it could turn out really dull and boring OR if it had live axle suspension, white or red 2x11 pneumatics, a way to actually pump water and lots of chrome parts including new chrome wheel hubs with a large positive offset so that two can be directly pinned together back to back (like the real wheels) and have enough room inside them for proper steering, Ackerman steering geometry and a light and sound module that can power an array of flashing emergency lights and sound a siren, and for the extendible ladders a new way to build lattice sections, well now we have something that feels completely fresh and great, despite the fact that it is essentially another crane with a very similar form to 42009 but with a ladder instead of a crane and no out riggers. Oh, and if I was designing it, I'de bring back the Technic minifigure for this set and have 3 of them, just because it would be cool! So it doesn't matter what the set is based off of, only what you do with it. That's why in this thread, I think it's useful for people not just to say "I want a set based on ......", because a set based on anything could be great or total crap. I like it when people try to give a more complete picture of their desired set with what new parts and features it might have.

Edited March 11, 20168 yr by allanp

I remember someone wrote not long ago that the reason they stopped making the Technic figure was that having no driver made it easier or whatever for kids to imagine themselves driving the model.

I would think kids could just as easily imagine themselves being the Technic figure driving the model, so if this was the main or sole reason they stopped making them, I don't really get it.

Could be a cost reducing thing for all I know, I don't know how expensive those guys could have been to make.

Personally I don't feel a need to have them, but I wouldn't mind it if they brought back the Technic figure, maybe also redesigning those old seats they sat in with some kind of pin hole connection on the underside instead of the plate underside for attachment.

Edited March 11, 20168 yr by Error404

VOLVO FMX 6X6

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http://prolift.ee/volvo/volvo-6x6-raudtee-hooldusauto/

They are both rail maintenance and inspection vehicles, and the one pictured is a hybrid version that can use overhead lines for power via the pantograph on top. As a matter of fact, there are two work platforms, one that can be attached to the crane, and then the large one on the truck. It's an interesting vehicle, but I don't see a road/rail machine being made in Technic, unless Lego designed bigger train tracks, which is a shame because of the fact that there are many cool road/rail vehicles, and even just some standard train cars. Or, for that matter, some very eclectic locomotives, which just don't work at 6 wide scale. Can you just imagine a working pneumatically operated version of one of the 4-8-8-4 Big Boy locomotives? I don't normally consider myself a train fan, but I could go for that.

As for future set wishes, I have a couple of things in mind:

Let's start with two similar but different sets, not flagship size, about the size of 42008 or maybe 42025, the $80-110 range. Both sets are pickup trucks, and both tow trailers, but beyond that the similarities stop. Set 1 is a large pickup truck with a winch on the front, towing a large boom lift.

A towable boom lift is not something that has been done before, and with updated Technic figures could be a great thing. The boom would naturally incorporate a lot of pneumatics. I'm thinking the truck is 4wd, but with no geabox, has a fake engine, and winch. There are also two spare tires, one each for the truck and lift. This is important, because now we talk b model. The b model could either be a longnose truck with a knuckle boom crane, that has 8 wheels, so a twin steer long nose truck, which also has not been done as a set, or and 8x4 towtruck, again with long nose and twin steer. Or, maybe both. The scale would be to 42024 tires, so right about the size of 42008, or maybe even 1h flagship at the largest.

The second model is again a pickup truck, with 42024 tires, but instead of a boom lift, it tows a rampless trailer, and has a scissor lift on the trailer.

A setup like this would be great for simple, but nevertheless cool machines that could not stand alone as a set. It's also similar to the classic 8872 Forklift Transporter. I'd kind of like to see more sets like that, multiple interactive vehicles in one set. This would also open up the door for other trailers and equipment, because I don't think just a truck and trailer is enough for one set. Back to the model, the B model is a skip truck like 8052 or 42024, which could work given the parts.

Another nice thing would be to see a flagship 4x4 with full gearbox, locking differentials, and a high/low transfer case. Unfortunately, I don't know if driveline mechanics are interesting enough to justify in a set, but we're dreaming, so let's have this set be a Land Rover Defender, although I dunno what kind of B model you could get out of it.

On to something bigger: I'd like to see a 6x6, 8x8, or even 10x10 vehicle as a flagship.

It's a complex thing some people might not be interested in, but this is Technic. I feel that there really isn't anything Lego can do to surpass the pinnacle of Technic supercars that is 8880, which included an engine, a gearbox, 4wd, all wheel steer, and even pop up headlights. Sure, they could equal it, but I think a flagship needs something more, and in my case, that means more driven axles.

A 6x6 would be a G63 AMG 6x6, which I think looks cool. And, I will never be able to afford a real one, so there is that.

As a flagship, it has everything, locking diffs, portal axles, gearbox, everything.

An 8x8 would be a MAN M1001 truck with crane.

And finally, the biggest, baddest flagship I can think of would be an M1074 Oskkosh PLS truck.

it has the crane , the hook lift, and while we are dreaming, a trailer with a second flat rack. I think one could be done with less than 4000 pieces.

Honestly, you can't get any bigger than one of these bad...

Darn you Russians...

A tristar truck ... assuming they get the license from the movie studio.

Excellent suggestions. I like the ute and trailer idea.

Speeking of huge trucks, how about a oshkosh M1070 8x8 heavy tractor. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hpWcvv3HoT8/hqdefault.jpg

Edited March 12, 20168 yr by vliet

Some links regarding this vehicle:http://prolift.ee/vo...de-hooldusauto/

http://prolift.ee/vo...ee-hooldusauto/

Can you just imagine a working pneumatically operated version of one of the 4-8-8-4 Big Boy locomotives? I don't normally consider myself a train fan, but I could go for that.

Darn you Russians...

Oh yes, and i have for a long time! what a beauty beast this is. And it doesnt need be monster sized either, just big enough.

Even if the tracks are only 6 studs wide, the big boy itself will be approx 14 wide and 20 high - and very very long if the tender are included. Alot of space for pneumatics. They could also include alot of track pieces in the box, for us to lay out our own track on the floor;)

I hope that size would be enough, because if only increasing the size with let say a 1/3 it probably going to have 10,000+ pieces and way too expensive.

I thought I read somewhere that TLG will not release anything remotely related to a military vehicle ... I guess camouflage patterns are difficult to print on technic panels

Edited March 12, 20168 yr by DrJB