Future Set Wishes and Speculation

[nicjasno]

10 hours ago, richthelegodude said:

I would like to see the following things:
1) A 'creator expert & Technic' weight driven mechanical clock, imagine a nice Technic clock mechanism surrounded by system such that it looks ornate...

2) Universal Sets - my first technic set was the 8044. I would like to see such sets make a return.

3) A mechanical model of a simple car (not based on an actual car such that there are no license costs), which aims to create simplified versions of all major elements, suspension springs with separate shocks, gearbox, rack and pinion steering etc. Pneumatic brakes would be wonderful too...

Universal sets get my full support!!

Pneumatic brakes are not really viable at the moment, but i am all for sets without licensing costs.

 

[thekoRngear]

IMHO, the last solid year of Lego (in terms of big sets) was 2018. The Liebherr, Bugatti, the Big Red- all became popular without much controversies/problems/inconsistencies that ahem...the iconic Charger, the Big Lime, the Volvo, and the Osprey had to see from little to significant impacts. Lego needs to restore back to 2018 and, with that they have to start proper continuation of their 2013 (42009), 2015 (42043) flagships. I am not counting the supercars in this regard as they are part of UCS series. I guess the Big Red (42082) was not a licensed set yet Lego went full on in terms of complexity or enjoy-ability of the build (sure it has repetitive process). So, more license-free full on creativity with less obsession with gears are much appreciated. A bit sad that no surprise set for the rest of 2020. Hope a heavy jeep will come in or later 2021.

Edited September 1, 2020 by thekoRngear

[WvG_853]

I also hope for the return of a real flagship set without remote control. More emphasis on building than on playing with the end product ...

[Bartybum]

I just want small and medium sets with pneumatics

[Jundis]

12 minutes ago, Bartybum said:

I just want small and medium sets with pneumatics

You have my support.

One of the most wanted part for me (despite the return of the 1x11 pneumatic cylinder) is a small tractor tire for the 43.2 wheel

There are so much possibilities for upcoming models with this part:

- big Tractor (as front tire)

- Harvester/Crop Chopper (as back tire)

- small Tractor (as back tire)

- telescopic loader (front and back)

- Unimog/Offroad-Truck/Jeep (front and back)

- ....

[1gor]

3 hours ago, Jundis said:

You have my support.

One of the most wanted part for me (despite the return of the 1x11 pneumatic cylinder) is a small tractor tire for the 43.2 wheel

- Harvester/Crop Chopper (as back tire)

 

To have harvester with correct proportions, you will need 95mm tire and it is more suitable for 56mm wheel...but 68 or 81mm tire is also welcome...

Kind regards

[Jundis]

32 minutes ago, I_Igor said:

To have harvester with correct proportions, you will need 95mm tire and it is more suitable for 56mm wheel...but 68 or 81mm tire is also welcome...

Hmm looking at this photo, I'd say the ratio of the rear tire is about 2/3 the diameter of the front tire... so with the existing 107 and a new 68 we have matching diameters :-)

 

[1gor]

@Jundis in this brochure on page 50 you can see tire options and you are right - since varies combination with new axle are available (front tires from 195-205mm and rear from 150 to 165 with both sizes)

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.claas.co.uk/blueprint/servlet/blob/1952728/0c1db9b00c34b07905624a9e9cb3b299/357377-23-dataRaw.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwixto6ZhsjrAhVLyaYKHZe2AskQFjAOegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw1AYs_Lkywop54hCKLuxOez

(Hope link works)

Yes it would be great to have Claas Lexion as a licensed set (but it would easily be flagship based on tire dimensions and number of parts you can put inside...)

...last week I gave driven by a local Claas dealer and since few years ago I had Axion 900 series free drive I asked about Lexion and salesman said that usually wheeled combo for 8900 series is 900/60R42 front and 500/85R34 at rear...

[Ngoc Nguyen]

On 8/24/2020 at 12:25 PM, allanp said:

Yes, a fully functional backhoe is very difficult and my hats off to anyone who can pull it off cleanly with all the functions. I'd love to see a roughly 23 stud wide scale, pneumatic, non RC backhoe. This is where TLG could produce something better than any MOC as, for example, they could have a new piece for the base of the back hoe and side shift, which is where I feel all MOCs and official sets get a bit messy, two piece opening front bucket and, just to really be awesome, a new compact (about 3 stud diameter), six piston axial pump! 

 

[Jockos]

I think we should get 2-3 D2C sets every two years (or every year) like the UCS cars. Just thinking about how other System based themes get them, and Technic just doesn't...but I don't really know why

Edited September 6, 2020 by Jockos

[Frequenzberater]

We still need a Technic Fairride series 

[allanp]

11 minutes ago, Frequenzberater said:

We still need a Technic Fairride series 

I think the current fairground collection can cover all the technical elements needed for such sets. 

[Zerobricks]

2 hours ago, Jockos said:

I think we should get 2-3 D2C sets every two years (or every year) like the UCS cars. Just thinking about how other System based themes get them, and Technic just doesn't...but I don't really know why

I have a feeling we will be getting smaller-scale (1:10) "supercars" like 42110 between the relases of the 1:8 ones. It would make sense, so every year there's something new.

[thekoRngear]

2 hours ago, Zerobricks said:

I have a feeling we will be getting smaller-scale (1:10) "supercars" like 42110 between the relases of the 1:8 ones. It would make sense, so every year there's something new.

That'd be great. A 42110 spiritual successor is very much appreciated

[2GodBDGlory]

10 hours ago, Zerobricks said:

I have a feeling we will be getting smaller-scale (1:10) "supercars" like 42110 between the relases of the 1:8 ones. It would make sense, so every year there's something new.

Agreed. Perhaps they will be 4x4s each year, or perhaps not. I suppose we will find out in 2021!

On 8/31/2020 at 3:43 PM, richthelegodude said:

I would like to see the following things:
1) A 'creator expert & Technic' weight driven mechanical clock, imagine a nice Technic clock mechanism surrounded by system such that it looks ornate...

2) Universal Sets - my first technic set was the 8044. I would like to see such sets make a return.

3) A mechanical model of a simple car (not based on an actual car such that there are no license costs), which aims to create simplified versions of all major elements, suspension springs with separate shocks, gearbox, rack and pinion steering etc. Pneumatic brakes would be wonderful too...

That last suggestion sounds wonderful. It could be a successor to the classic Auto Chassis sets, with plenty of technical complexity, with no bodywork driving up costs and hiding the mechanisms. Not that I don't appreciate the 1:8 supercars, though.

[howitzer]

7 hours ago, 2GodBDGlory said:

Agreed. Perhaps they will be 4x4s each year, or perhaps not. I suppose we will find out in 2021!

That last suggestion sounds wonderful. It could be a successor to the classic Auto Chassis sets, with plenty of technical complexity, with no bodywork driving up costs and hiding the mechanisms. Not that I don't appreciate the 1:8 supercars, though.

It's very hard to see TLG releasing an auto chassis set like in the old times. Without bodywork it would be unrecognizable, and Technic is all about recognizable licenses today. Even considering the non-licensed sets the days of Technic being "liftarms with gears inside" are long gone. Lego sets have to compete for attention in both store shelves and online, and the best attention-catcher is good looks, whether it comes with license or not. Technical functions are of course important when it comes to actual buying decision but they don't matter much if the set doesn't first catch the attention of the customer, at least when it comes to non-AFOL customers.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

Osprey V-44 quad rotor

[1gor]

3 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Osprey V-44 quad rotor

Then you need just another V-22 

[White Phoenix of the Crown]

4 hours ago, Ngoc Nguyen said:

Osprey V-44 quad rotor

Something similar has already been in the City Arktic

[howitzer]

Considering the speculation going on in the 2021 sets topic, I wonder if there's something in the works of the second half that utilizes Control+ motor as a function selector? From programming perspective, that would basically be the same as 42114 but instead of a vehicle going different speeds there could be a remote-controlled pneumatic crane or something. Now, everyone and their mother is of course hoping for a proper backhoe or a road grader, but as both are long overdue I wouldn't get my hopes up. Still, function selector would be the logical next step in realizing the full potential of Control+.

Even better would be some sort of universal set, like those back in 80's and 90's, something along the lines of 8082 or 8485. TLG hasn't abandoned the concept (just look at Mindstorms and Boost) but for some reason this concept was last seen in Technic in 1997...

[dhc6twinotter]

6 hours ago, howitzer said:

Considering the speculation going on in the 2021 sets topic, I wonder if there's something in the works of the second half that utilizes Control+ motor as a function selector? From programming perspective, that would basically be the same as 42114 but instead of a vehicle going different speeds there could be a remote-controlled pneumatic crane or something. Now, everyone and their mother is of course hoping for a proper backhoe or a road grader, but as both are long overdue I wouldn't get my hopes up. Still, function selector would be the logical next step in realizing the full potential of Control+.

Even better would be some sort of universal set, like those back in 80's and 90's, something along the lines of 8082 or 8485. TLG hasn't abandoned the concept (just look at Mindstorms and Boost) but for some reason this concept was last seen in Technic in 1997...

 Personally, I'd love to see a full remote controlled backhoe.  If a gearbox were used, all functions could be done with 6 motors (4 motors going through gearbox).  That would give all the basic backhoe functions--drive, steer, stabilizers, two movements for the front bucket, four movements for the rear bucket, plus a motor for the gearbox.  The steering and gearbox would have their own dedicated motors, and the other four motors would run everything else through a simple two position gearbox.  Such a model could potentially be less parts intensive than the excavator, and price point may be about $350-400.00 USD.

I would also love to see a new flagship tow truck, and such a tow truck could also be built to be remote controlled, but I think I'd actually prefer a model with lots of functions manually controlled with bi-directional gearing and a single motor.  I would absolutely love it if I could work for LEGO and design such a model for them!  That would be so fun!  It could have like 12 motorized functions. 

[Bartybum]

1 hour ago, dhc6twinotter said:

Personally, I'd love to see a full remote controlled backhoe.  If a gearbox were used, all functions could be done with 6 motors (4 motors going through gearbox).  That would give all the basic backhoe functions--drive, steer, stabilizers, two movements for the front bucket, four movements for the rear bucket, plus a motor for the gearbox.  The steering and gearbox would have their own dedicated motors, and the other four motors would run everything else through a simple two position gearbox.  Such a model could potentially be less parts intensive than the excavator, and price point may be about $350-400.00 USD.

$350USD sounds realistic. I've spent a lot of time thinking about this and wrote it earlier in this thread, but it could also be done with just 5 motors. If you split all the functions into two groups - driving/front bucket, and backhoe - then you have four functions per group, with a fifth motor operating the gearbox and outriggers together. Binding outriggers to the gearbox is acceptable because you only need to drive when you're operating the front bucket, and you only need the outriggers when operating the backhoe.

The only problem with a fully RC backhoe is finding space for two smart hubs, five motors and a 4-input-4-output gearbox. It'd be easier if TLG designed a compact smart hub to just plug into the simple hub.

Edited September 30, 2020 by Bartybum

[thekoRngear]

A bit different wish from me- the other day I was watching WWE's Clash of Champions' Randy Orton vs Drew McIntyre Ambulance match. That ambulance was pretty much awesome. I actually do not know if Lego ever made or when was the last time Lego made a Technic Ambulance? That Ambulance had awesome details with headlights, interior. I think Lego has a perfect opportunity to blend System with Technic functions with an additional 2- speed gearbox for the ambulance. So many design details, with big tires etc. etc.

Your thoughts? I know there is an ongoing discussion happening here. Would like to have thoughts on Ambulance from anyone alongside 

 

 

 

[Bartybum]

1 hour ago, thekoRngear said:

Your thoughts? I know there is an ongoing discussion happening here. Would like to have thoughts on Ambulance from anyone alongside 

I dunno, I feel like an ambulance would better fit Creator Expert.

[Ngoc Nguyen]

20 minutes ago, Bartybum said:

I dunno, I feel like an ambulance would better fit Creator Expert.

There was a First Responder in Technic (42075) that has only basic function. If there's a Technic Ambulance I think it'll get the same treatment.