Ideas for new City sets

[Klaus-Dieter]

On 9/2/2020 at 7:46 PM, Powered by Bricks said:

@Klaus-Dieter I was thinking that the Snow Police vehicles can be similar to the artic explorers ones

Ok, then it is obvious.

18 hours ago, Brandon Pea said:

C'mon Lego! If not a public transportation subthemes for City, at least give us a transit bus for the Great Vehicles line. 

Yes, please! There has been only one transit bus so far - the one in Public Transport System back in 2010. So I could see this very well happen: Add a bus driver and two passengers and then sell it for 20 Euros in the Great Vehicles theme, that would work for sure!

18 hours ago, Greenstar said:

How about an articulated bus instead of a normal one?

I'd like one, too. But I don't see this soon because of two reasons: 1. An articulated bus was released already two years ago as a city tour bus in Capital City. 2. As a stand-alone set it would be around 30 Euros - and I doubt that kids and parents will pay this money for only one common road vehicle with no extraordinary action stuff.

10 hours ago, Brandon Pea said:

• Towing Boat - towing boat with broken down civilian boat, two towers and two beach goers 

[...]

• Money Transport Plane - armored plane with 3 security guards

I really like these completely new ideas!

For the Towing theme I'd recommend to add following complete new but even absolutely neccessary sets:

Cross-country Fire Fighters At Car Accident (30 Euros)

• black offroad car
• big cross-country fire engine
• minifigures: offroad car driver, 2x fire fighter with respirator
• accessory: hydraulic spreader, hydraulic cutter, water cannon, fire axe, fire drencher

Motorcycle Paramedic At Longboard Accident (10 Euros)

• white motorcycle with paramedic sign
• minifigs: teenager (skateboard helmet + hair piece), paramedic with motorcycle helmet
• accessory: longboard (new mould), two grey suitcases with paramedic sign on it, injection, infusion

What do you think?

Edited September 4, 2020 by Klaus-Dieter

[jonwil]

We have had some nice buses over the years from LEGO IMO but no articulated bendy bus has ever been released.

I think my favorite is the bus from the 2017 Bus Station set although the long-distance coach from the 2010 Public Transport Station is a close second.

I would love to see LEGO do an articulated bendy bus and it would be an instant buy unless they priced it way too high (like they did with this year's Main Square set).

Or a classic US style yellow school bus (its been done in Hidden Side with that funky bus set, its been done in Cars with the crazy school bus character, its been done a few times in Duplo and its even been done in a Friends set but its never been done in a City set before)

 

 

[The Island Chronicles]

19 minutes ago, Klaus-Dieter said:

Yes, please! There has been only one transit bus so far - the one in Public Transport System back in 2010. So I could see this very well happen: Add a bus driver and two passengers and then sell it for 20 Euros in the Great Vehicles theme, that would work for sure!

I hope its in blue. Btw, as far as how many buses have been made for City is concerned, I actually counted five. 

• 2009 City Corner
• 2010 Public Transportation
• 2013 Town Square
• 2017 Bus Station
• 2018 Capital City

21 minutes ago, Klaus-Dieter said:

An articulated bus was released already two years ago as a city tour bus in Capital City

That was actually a single section bus. Articuclated buses look like this.  This would actually be the first time Lego does an actual articulated bus if they do one. Once again, I hope they use blue. Red and yellow don't really suit my taste for transit system colors. 

26 minutes ago, Klaus-Dieter said:

What do you think?

Those sets seem like they'd fit better into the fire and medical subthemes for City. I wouldn't necessarily put those in a subtheme that's supposed to be centered around the towing service. 

[Klaus-Dieter]

12 minutes ago, Brandon Pea said:

That was actually a single section bus. Articuclated buses look like this.  This would actually be the first time Lego does an actual articulated bus if they do one. Once again, I hope they use blue. Red and yellow don't really suit my taste for transit system colors.

Oh yes, thanks - I was lost in translation and mixed it up with double decker.

Nevertheless and even then I highly doubt that an articulated bus will ever happen because of three reasons: 1. For a standalone set it would be much too pricey. 2. If being decent sized, for smaller kids it would be bulky. 3. Only a huge town plan style set could include it - and then a tram seems more interesting since outside of these kinds of sets a tram will never happen (, too).

12 minutes ago, Brandon Pea said:

Those sets seem like they'd fit better into the fire and medical subthemes for City. I wouldn't necessarily put those in a subtheme that's supposed to be centered around the towing service. 

Well, you might be right.

21 minutes ago, jonwil said:

I think my favorite is the bus from the 2017 Bus Station set although the long-distance coach from the 2010 Public Transport Station is a close second.

Yes, these two busses were great! Til now I personally like the transit bus from the PublicTransport System the most. But City busses so far were amazing - as well as all trams.

21 minutes ago, jonwil said:

Or a classic US style yellow school bus (its been done in Hidden Side with that funky bus set, its been done in Cars with the crazy school bus character, its been done a few times in Duplo and its even been done in a Friends set but its never been done in a City set before)

Friends had one in the Art School, too, which fitted much better in size to City.

 

Edited September 4, 2020 by Klaus-Dieter

[The Island Chronicles]

13 minutes ago, Klaus-Dieter said:

Friends had one in the Art School, too, which fitted much better in size to City.

Yeah! I'm surprised that one wasn't a City set. If you mod the bus' colors from yellow and lavender to yellow and black, it totally fits into City. The way it looks doesn't really feel like a Friends vehicle. 

13 minutes ago, Klaus-Dieter said:

Nevertheless and even then I highly doubt that an articulated bus will ever happen because of three reasons: 1. For a standalone set it would be much too pricey. 2. If being decent sized, for smaller kids it would be bulky. 3. Only a huge town plan style set could include it - and then a tram seems more interesting since outside of these kinds of sets a tram will never happen (, too).

I'm looking at $29.99 as the maximum for a set like that. If we look at past Great Vehicles, we can see that Lego did vehicles similar to that, only they were haulers. So I don't think pricing will be an issue. Also, here is an articulated bus moc that my friend made along with a shuttle bus and short line bus. If Lego did something like this (along with a little bus stop), I don't think it would be too bulky for children. Bulky would be 8 stud wide.  I'm with you there in regards to trams. A rapid transit train is more likely for a standalone set than a tram. But I think a bendy bus is possible to release outside of a town plan set just like any other type of bus. I like to look on the bright-side and not temper awesome ideas. 

Edited September 4, 2020 by Brandon Pea

[Klaus-Dieter]

Here are my hopes for the 2022 Trains theme:

• road-track possible signal light repair truck (like the one in 7936, but six studs wide and much more elaborated) - 20 Euros
• train rail crossing (like 7996 Train Rail Crossing), but with four arms so you can have two trains runnning parallel - 30 Euros
• commuter train (similar to 7938, but in green, at the best lime green) (please no highspeed train since in the past two Trains theme there always had been one) - 140 Euros
• fire fighting train (prefered because something completely new) or track repair train (similar to 3677) - 200 Euros
• huge, minimum two floors tall train station (with ticket booth, railway control center, bistro, grocery, Lego store and indoor waiting area) and a handicapped accessible taxi van (could be the year's D2C set then and fit very well two years after the Main Square from 2020) - 100-180 Euros

What do you think? And which sets would you like for the 2022 Trains theme?

11 hours ago, Brandon Pea said:

I'm looking at $29.99 as the maximum for a set like that. If we look at past Great Vehicles, we can see that Lego did vehicles similar to that, only they were haulers. So I don't think pricing will be an issue. Also, here is an articulated bus moc that my friend made along with a shuttle bus and short line bus. If Lego did something like this (along with a little bus stop), I don't think it would be too bulky for children. Bulky would be 8 stud wide.  I'm with you there in regards to trams. A rapid transit train is more likely for a standalone set than a tram. But I think a bendy bus is possible to release outside of a town plan set just like any other type of bus. I like to look on the bright-side and not temper awesome ideas. 

Sorry, I didn't want to temper awesome ideas; I only wanted to avoid too big hopes in order to that then people may well get disappointed. Only have a look at Lego Ideas: Everybody thought that the 10k playable aquarium will be selected by the Ideas theme because this MOC was something completely new and would have been awesome for people who like aquariums but can't afford a real one (because of money, place or work).

Edited September 5, 2020 by Klaus-Dieter

[Klaus-Dieter]

Since the past years TLG has introduced many new animals I made a list which animals we supposable will see and which animals I would like to see in the next years (only) inside the City theme. I devided between "reprinted part" and "new mould". Here it is:

Farm:

• reprinted part: brown-white checked cow (from cow), grey horse (from horse)
• new mould: sheep, jackass, pheasant

Harbor / Ocean:

• reprinted part: small mixed sea animals in different colors (from the Friends theme), turtle (from the CMF theme)
• new mould: seal, orca, pot whale, jellyfish

Moutain / Forest / Winter::

• reprinted part: otter (from Harry Potter theme), wolf (from dog), reindeer (from Winter Village theme), hedgehog (from Friends theme)
• new mould: weasel, chamois, fox, wild pig, squirrel

Jungle / Volcano / Savannah:

• reprinted part: zebra (from horse), monkey (old monkey, but with prints), big panda bear (from brown bear)
• new mould: elephant, gazelle, bison, male lion, ocelot, rhino

Dessert:

• reprinted part: big snake (from Harry Potter CMF theme)
• new mould: hyena, small dromedary

Outback:

• reprinted part: dingo (from dog)
• new mould: kangaroo, koala, Tasmanian devil

Arcitc / Antarctic:

• reprinted part: snow leopard (from leopard), snow rabbit (from rabbit)
• new mould: sea lion, wisent

City:

• reprinted part: male duck (from rubber duck), female duck (from rubber duck), grey-black pigeon (from pigeon)
• new mould: swan

What do you think and would like?

[jonwil]

Of the above suggested animals I love the idea of a sheep (one that fits better with normal figures and animals than the Friends lamb), a rhino and a kangaroo.

For the jungle I want to add a hippo and a gorilla and a giraffe to the list.

For the outback I want to add an emu and maybe a lizard of some sort to go with the snake we already have. Oh and if its possible, take the newer style bigger spider in black and print some red on the abdomen to make a redback spider.

 

[Powered by Bricks]

Here is my idea about a public transportation subtheme:

 

-Bus- A arcticulated bus (with the same style as a tram) with a bus station ,One bus driver and some passengers 

-Passenger train- big set with a blue Passenger train, a train stop, a conductor,4 passengers, a car crossing rail and a white car

-Bus Terminal- Something like this images

Edited September 5, 2020 by Powered by Bricks

[The Island Chronicles]

55 minutes ago, Powered by Bricks said:

Here is my idea about a public transportation subtheme:

 

-Bus- A arcticulated bus (with the same style as a tram) with a bus station ,One bus driver and some passengers 

-Passenger train- big set with a blue Passenger train, a train stop, a conductor,4 passengers, a car crossing rail and a white car

-Bus Terminal- Something like this images

Good ideas. I would also add a short line set with a mini bus like the Thomas SLF. 

10 hours ago, Klaus-Dieter said:

• fire fighting train (prefered because something completely new) or track repair train (similar to 3677) - 200 Euros
• huge, minimum two floors tall train

How about a police train to complement that? Because unfortunately City has to have at least one police set a year.

Edited September 5, 2020 by Brandon Pea

[The Island Chronicles]

11 hours ago, Klaus-Dieter said:

Sorry, I didn't want to temper awesome ideas; I only wanted to avoid too big hopes in order to that then people may well get disappointed. Only have a look at Lego Ideas: Everybody thought that the 10k playable aquarium will be selected by the Ideas theme because this MOC was something completely new and would have been awesome for people who like aquariums but can't afford a real one (because of money, place or work).

Oh no! I wasn't talking about you doing that. I was just saying that in general. No attacks toward you man. 

[Powered by Bricks]

@Klaus-Dieter I want buses like these ones

[Greenstar]

1 hour ago, Brandon Pea said:

Good ideas. I would also add a short line set with a mini bus like the Thomas SLF. 

How about a police train to complement that? Because unfortunately City has to have at least one police set a year.

How about an armoured train owned by the crooks, for the police set, that would be more exciting since it would be like a Bond villain or something

23 hours ago, Brandon Pea said:

Yeah! I'm surprised that one wasn't a City set. If you mod the bus' colors from yellow and lavender to yellow and black, it totally fits into City. The way it looks doesn't really feel like a Friends vehicle. 

I'm looking at $29.99 as the maximum for a set like that. If we look at past Great Vehicles, we can see that Lego did vehicles similar to that, only they were haulers. So I don't think pricing will be an issue. Also, here is an articulated bus moc that my friend made along with a shuttle bus and short line bus. If Lego did something like this (along with a little bus stop), I don't think it would be too bulky for children. Bulky would be 8 stud wide.  I'm with you there in regards to trams. A rapid transit train is more likely for a standalone set than a tram. But I think a bendy bus is possible to release outside of a town plan set just like any other type of bus. I like to look on the bright-side and not temper awesome ideas. 

8 studs wide is not too bad for an articulated bus, especially if you want to fit certain details in it, such as a chair that raises for wheelchairs to be able to be there, as well as some other details.  Any time I’ve done one, I’ve also made sure to include seats facing the middle as well as forward facing seats

And a tram would be nice for certain cities if it were motorised and able to carry passengers.  Although I still wish they would bring back the monorail

On the topic of monorail, it is more prototypical for some cities compared to light rail or rapid transit rail.  And a hanging monorail would be able to use existing tracks if based off of the Wuppertal design to allow for bidirectional travel on one piece of track

[Greenstar]

Here’s what I would like for a public transit theme, going from the lowest capacity to highest.

Bike share terminals, like we have here in my city.  With a small sheltered bike rack, four black and red bikes, and two minifigures.  I’m not a big fan, but I know some people may like those little details for their cities.

A taxi stand with a cab and two minifigures, one being a cab driver.  A possible taxi depot for this or another standalone set with it to repair taxi cabs.

An autonomous shuttle, Much like our Linden LEAP shuttle(Sound familiar?) here in Columbus.  It would include two stops and three minifigures, one of which is a worker for the transport company and the other two are passengers.  Would look like the Linden LEAP in design, but would be coloured mostly white, or one other color, with light blue window panes.

A cutaway bus for paratransit service, like our COTA mainstream.  Including a person in a wheelchair and a driver.

A normal sized bus for regular routes with driver and two passengers.  Two stops included

A bus rapid transit set with An Articulated bus with driver, four passengers, two special Bus Rapid Transit Stops with paying to enter the stop and level boarding, possibly special printed roads with red Bus only lanes.

A bus depot for bus maintenance with two workers and a special lift for the buses.  Also included would be a special bus tow truck that has a pusher on the front to nudge buses to assist in starting them, with a driver.

A motorised tram/light rail set with a three section tram/light rail vehicle, Four passengers, A driver, two stops, and new road plates with tram track.

An elevated rapid transit train set or metro set with one Station(elevated or “underground”), a driver, four passengers, a train with three cars, benches on the platform, and a loop of track.

A monorail set(straddle or suspended) with one two car monorail vehicle, a driver, three passengers, two elevated stops with benches, and a loop of track.

An Airport people mover with a loop of track and two stations, as well as a two car train with no driver, and three passengers.

an aerial cable car(possibly) with four cabins, two stops, and three passengers.

any thoughts on any of these?

For the autonomous shuttle idea https://smart.columbus.gov/get-involved/linden-leap

[The Island Chronicles]

@Greenstar LOL! You did an entire wave there. This time Lego, can you make the taxi fit two people instead of one? 

[Greenstar]

5 minutes ago, Brandon Pea said:

@Greenstar LOL! You did an entire wave there. This time Lego, can you make the taxi fit two people instead of one? 

That’s kinda the point, we need more options of public transit 

I just posted an article under LEGO train tech regarding ideas for roller coaster track as well

[The Island Chronicles]

On 9/5/2020 at 11:33 AM, Greenstar said:

That’s kinda the point, we need more options of public transit 

I just posted an article under LEGO train tech regarding ideas for roller coaster track as well

I definitely agree. I work in public transport and we are also a vital civilian service. Not all heroes save lives. There are also heroes that serve their community. 

Edited September 8, 2020 by Brandon Pea

[Greenstar]

8 minutes ago, Brandon Pea said:

I definitely agree. I work in public transport and we are also a vital civilian service. Not heroes save lives. There are also heroes that serve their community. 

I agree with that statement, although I don’t work for a transit company due to age, I believe that the operators are hero’s, especially now since their risking their health due to Covid-19.  

@Brandon Pea  whats your favorite idea out of the ones I listed above?

[siimonsayslego]

@Greenstar That sounds like a good wave, personally like the idea of an underground station, and an airport people mover (LOVE AIRPORTS), a monorail would also be good, as I feel I need one in my city, and the Linden LEAP shuttles sound like they'd be good for city as its potentially the future, but they also remind me of the Heathrow Pods.

[Greenstar]

7 hours ago, siimonsayslego said:

@Greenstar That sounds like a good wave, personally like the idea of an underground station, and an airport people mover (LOVE AIRPORTS), a monorail would also be good, as I feel I need one in my city, and the Linden LEAP shuttles sound like they'd be good for city as its potentially the future, but they also remind me of the Heathrow Pods.

Yeah, but they are not Personal Rapid Transit like the Heathrow Pods.  And the Linden LEAP name would not be used as it was just an example

[The Island Chronicles]

Hmmm.........You guys all have good ideas for a public transportation wave. City however, obviously doesn't want to push public transportation that much considering that we only see one to two pieces of public transportation matter a year. These are mostly seen in mega sets and throughout the years, we've only gotten two sets that are strictly dedicated to public transport (one being in 2010 and the other being in 2017). Though if we were to count the passenger trains, I'd say six. I think either Great Vehicles and Town is as far as we're going to get as far as the public transport system. Matter of fact, the way things were for City in 2010s is the way its likely going to be for the foreseeable future. Let's not forget, this ain't the golden age anymore. That ended for City in the early 2010s. Its a new era. 

Sets dedicated solely to public transport:

1. 7897 Passenger Train
2. 7997 Train Station
3. 7937 Train Station
4. 7938 Passenger Train
5. 8404 Public Transport Station
6. 60050 Train Station
7. 60051 High Speed Passenger Train
8. 60154 Bus Station
9. 60197 Passenger Train

Sets that show signs of a public transport system.

1. 7641 City Corner - bus
2. 60026 Town Square - bus
3. 60097 City Square - tram
4. 60200 Capital City - bus 
5. 60233 Doughnut Shop Opening - taxi
6. 60271 Main Square - tram 

So we've actually got 15. But to be frank, those were really thrown around through town and trains - which kinda frustrates me. My assumption is that the designers that handle City sets want to save "dedicated" subthemes for action that children DON'T get to see on a daily basis with police and exploration being the best sellers. That could explain why we don't have a dedicated subtheme for public transport and why certain subthemes like garage, mail, cargo, farm, construction and emergency must've been.discontinued as subthemes as the average child can pretty much see that type of action every time they step out of their house. That's probably why it would be considered "boring".

Things like police chases, fire fights, the arctic, planes (unless you live on an air force base), trains (unless you live near a railroad), the deep sea, space, rescues at sea, the jungle or volcanos are things that the average child out there DON'T get to see everyday. Thus making children excited about these sets. Thus why they sell well. Thus why we see them all the time and why we will keep seeing them for the foreseeable future of Lego City. 

If you work any of the former jobs, I am not attacking you. I also work in public transport - so it would be hypocritical of me to attack. These are just jobs that the average child would see everyday. 

Edited September 7, 2020 by Brandon Pea

[The Island Chronicles]

On 9/5/2020 at 1:25 PM, Greenstar said:

@Brandon Pea  whats your favorite idea out of the ones I listed above?

Hmmm...I really don't have a favorite. I love all those ideas. But the autonomous shuttle is the one that stands out to me the most. I have yet to see those in Washington DC. But I'm sure it would make a great City set. 

The taxi station is also a good one. In City, I've only seen 3 taxis. Would be great to have a s st dedicated to the Lego City cab company. 

Same with the bendy bus. I drive one of those btw. I'd also add a short line set to your Public Transportation wave idea. That would be a set with a small 30 foot bus for usage on smaller routes. 

Edited September 8, 2020 by Brandon Pea

[Powered by Bricks]

Lego did a táxi station on 1976 and here it is

So, for a new set, it can be like this

Edited September 9, 2020 by Powered by Bricks

[The Island Chronicles]

5 hours ago, Powered by Bricks said:

Lego did a táxi station on 1976 and here it is

So, for a new set, it can be like this

Sorry Lego! I came around too late. But like you said, @Powered by Bricks, for a new set, it could be similar. 

[jonwil]

I hope whatever "explorers" sub-theme they do for 2021 brings something new to the table (either somewhere that they haven't explored yet or at the very least, a good selection of new animals and other new parts)