[MOC] Jedi Temple - Playset Style

[jonnyboyca]

I will be filling this out more completely as I have time.

Updated

Final Version LDD File (lxf) http://www.brickshel..._jonnyboyca.lxf

Old Version LDD File (Russian Nesting Doll style) (lxf) http://www.brickshel..._jonnyboyca.lxf

This is my attempt at a Coruscant Jedi Temple (Prequel Episodes) in the style of the Death Star playset 10188 or the unreleased Yavin IV playset that I assembled a couple of years ago.

The goal was to feature the prominent rooms and personages that appear in the prequel movie clips featuring the Jedi Temple. Most of the Jedi that appear in the the temple during the films have already been produced by Lego and these minifigs have been collected and included. The additional minifigs that are in the most part unique to Jedi Temple scenes include: Jocasta Nu, Bail Organa, the Jedi padawan that defends Bail Organa, and numerous Jedi younglings. There are a couple of council room Jedi who have not been released by Lego. However, the council room in my design only features 10 of the actual 12 seats shown in the film. These 10 seats can be fully occupied by the Jedi Lego has released that are council members in the prequel films.

The main architectural feature that is currently lacking is the towers on top of the temple. The playset design behind the front facade meant I didn't find a method to anchor the towers that made me happy.

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Animated GIF of Rendering

Entrance

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Left/Right Stack

Detatched Platforms

Landing Platform

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Command Room

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Map Room

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Council Room

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Hallway

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Library

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Holocron Room

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Youngling Training Room

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Meditation Room

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Jedi Padawan - Zett Jukassa

Senator - Bail Organa

Bail Organa's Speeder

Chief Librarian - Jocasta Nu

Jedi Youngling's

[DarthTwoShedsJackson]

I'm not a fan of the Jedi Order as depicted in the Prequel Trilogy - I'm a fan of individual Jedi and the New Jedi Order established by Luke in the books.

That being said, I really like your Jedi Temple play set. It's small for what it represents, but there's a lot of features, rooms and sets I instantly recognized, and I especially like the colour choices you made and the shaping! Being someone who likes to build minifig-scale miniturized versions of vehicles myself, I have to also say good work on the air speeder. Now that I'm looking at your set, I wished LEGO would one day do something similar, because your version clearly exhibits the potential for lots of play features and a huge exciting choice of minifigs that could come with it.

There's two things I would add:

1. The outside wall left and right, to make the Temple look a bit less open.

2. The stairs leading up to the temple would make better use of the free space on the base plate in front of the temple.

Edited April 18, 2014 by DarthTwoShedsJackson

[SinWolf89]

Interesting job you did here! There's a lot of minifigures for almost every character and a lot of playability

[CaptainCRO]

This is great! So many rooms and features squeezed in a not so big space.

Also, this model looks like an official TLG set. Reminds me of Palpatine's arrest set, just way better and bigger.

[TWP]

You've done a good job recreating the temple!

It looks a bit cramped though. I know it's hard to cut rooms, but sometimes that can be better for the whole MOC.

I also tried a bigger temple once. Haven't finished it yet though, I might work again at it after seeing your one

[Fuppylodders]

I was a bit hesitant when I saw the first picture, I think because the empty space next to the pathway leading into it. But I saw the rest of it, and oh my, was I surprised!

What an excellent playset you have designed! All the little rooms, are packed with so much nice detail, and they can be seperated as well!

I think this has created a playset that lego could be proud to sell regardless of the whole child massacre scene, I really don't get why some people are so solidly against the fact TLG would produce a set because of it. This set depicts nothing of a child massacre and shows so much of the life that can be portrayed being alive!

Excellent job!

[Steph 104th]

I think any child would beg their parent for this if it was a set. Great work, I would purchase this any day. Each nook is crammed with detail it is an amazing work and a brilliant play set.

It would be a proud ambassador for The Lego Group.

[Phoib]

Wow! This is really a stunning version of the Jedi Temple. The only downside I see is that it seems to be Yoda sized, but that might also be enforced by the proportions.

[Mr Man]

I would only suggest cutting the briefing room and swapping it for the war room, they serve the same purpose, this may give you a bit more room to open up the council room, this is one of the focal points of the temple and could be less cramped.

Fantastic job with the façade and the doorway idea, as well as the modular design.

[jonnyboyca]

I'm not a fan of the Jedi Order as depicted in the Prequel Trilogy - I'm a fan of individual Jedi and the New Jedi Order established by Luke in the books.

That being said, I really like your Jedi Temple play set. It's small for what it represents, but there's a lot of features, rooms and sets I instantly recognized, and I especially like the colour choices you made and the shaping! Being someone who likes to build minifig-scale miniturized versions of vehicles myself, I have to also say good work on the air speeder. Now that I'm looking at your set, I wished LEGO would one day do something similar, because your version clearly exhibits the potential for lots of play features and a huge exciting choice of minifigs that could come with it.

There's two things I would add:

1. The outside wall left and right, to make the Temple look a bit less open.

2. The stairs leading up to the temple would make better use of the free space on the base plate in front of the temple.

Thanks for the comments.

1. My original design was actually fully enclosed but two things made me change that design.

First, the fully enclosed design was created to use bricks (instead of plates) and I found it expensive to price out the cost of getting the bricks to create it.

Secondly, I had a Russian Nesting Doll style to enfold the temple to play with the rooms but it was tight on space.

In a lot of ways I actually preferred the original design but the brick cost for the architecturally true design made me rethink things and compromise on the playset style. I also couldn't find a way to fit the landing platform into this older design so I was happy to be able to add it to the playset style.

Original Design

2. I agree that the front could use some more detail. I couldn't make myself decide on whether that detail should match the minifig size (to go with the troopers/Anakin's entrance) or be building scale. That indecision resulted in no details sadly which was probably the worse than either choice.

Interesting job you did here! There's a lot of minifigures for almost every character and a lot of playability

Thanks :) That really was my goal. It becomes cost prohibitive to move a LDD model to actual bricks, especially when using colors that I don't have from breaking up other sets (such as tan). So the goal is to compromise on exactly modelling something but hinting enough to allow the imagination to connect the movie scene to the model and increasing playability.

This is great! So many rooms and features squeezed in a not so big space.

Also, this model looks like an official TLG set. Reminds me of Palpatine's arrest set, just way better and bigger.

Thank you. I was trying to take the Death Star playset and Palpatine's arrest as inspiration for the compromises on play vs 1-to-1 recreation. Probably my biggest disappointment so far for Star Wars Lego is the lack of a quality Hoth base playset. I am looking to see if I can try that next by trying to merge the existing Hoth base sets into a more enjoyable design.

You've done a good job recreating the temple!

It looks a bit cramped though. I know it's hard to cut rooms, but sometimes that can be better for the whole MOC.

I also tried a bigger temple once. Haven't finished it yet though, I might work again at it after seeing your one

Thanks :) I look forward to seeing your version when/if you finish it. I myself was influence to create my own after seeing other designs on Eurobricks and Cuusoo myself.

It is cramped for the ground floor. The doors are also one brick to short on the bottom floor. However, I found if I made the rooms taller in made them more cramped in many ways. Cutting rooms is not a bad idea and when I get the LDD posted up here I welcome people building and trying it out. I did try to put the Holocron/Meditation rooms in the back by the temple wall as this is the most cramped position and those rooms are the possibly the more boring of the rooms. The cramped nature is one of the main reasons I transitioned from my original Russian Nesting Doll design to the open back playset design. I posted a picture of this design in the previous response.

[jonnyboyca]

I was a bit hesitant when I saw the first picture, I think because the empty space next to the pathway leading into it. But I saw the rest of it, and oh my, was I surprised!

What an excellent playset you have designed! All the little rooms, are packed with so much nice detail, and they can be seperated as well!

I think this has created a playset that lego could be proud to sell regardless of the whole child massacre scene, I really don't get why some people are so solidly against the fact TLG would produce a set because of it. This set depicts nothing of a child massacre and shows so much of the life that can be portrayed being alive!

Excellent job!

Thanks for the comments!

The front definitely could by improved by some stylistic work. The blandness of it is a bit misleading to the design of the rear. I share the disappointment in TLG releasing a Jedi Temple playset. Every release of another Jedi minifig from the prequels served as a reminder that there existed one location where they all were visible and where they interacted. The Jedi Temple is such a core of the prequel trilogy as one of the few locations that is returned to, much the same as the Death Star in A New Hope. The other two are Palpatine's Office which was released and the Senate.

I think any child would beg their parent for this if it was a set. Great work, I would purchase this any day. Each nook is crammed with detail it is an amazing work and a brilliant play set.

It would be a proud ambassador for The Lego Group.

Thank you :)

Wow! This is really a stunning version of the Jedi Temple. The only downside I see is that it seems to be Yoda sized, but that might also be enforced by the proportions.

Thanks!

The ground floor does suffer from the Yoda sizing. The doors should be raised a full brick, however currently that height makes hallways and others a little too cramped. You are correct that the main challenge was that the footprint of the front defined the proportions of the rear it hides. The easiest way to improve this sizing would be to enlarge the front to fill the bottom plates width fully and then resize the rear to match. I admit that part of the reason I never did this was the time invested in the original design made this a challenge I was less willing to undertake.

I would only suggest cutting the briefing room and swapping it for the war room, they serve the same purpose, this may give you a bit more room to open up the council room, this is one of the focal points of the temple and could be less cramped.

Fantastic job with the façade and the doorway idea, as well as the modular design.

This is a rather good idea. Each of those rooms as a singular scene in the prequel movies. I'll admit to not being able to decide which I'd want to keep.

The cramped nature of the Council Room is a challenging balance point. If Lego made a similar model I think they would be unlikely they would release it with all of the existing Jedi minifigs as it is one of those designs that drives people to drive buy other models to "collect them all". The council room in many ways is more playable with fewer seats but of course it is less realistic as well. As it is I only have 10 of 12 seats in my model. The balance is likely enough seats that the included Jedi don't fill them and owners want to collect the other Jedi to fill them but not so many seats that it becomes cramped. At least two fewer in my current footprint is likely a better fit, but I wanted to sit on the Jedi Council members I had in it :)

I was proud of the modular design. My original idea was completely enclosed like Russian Nesting dolls and the design transitioned into modular as I opened it up on three sides.

[TWP]

Do you mind sharing the LDD file of the original version? There's much stuff going on in there which I cannot see from such a tiny pic.

[jonnyboyca]

Do you mind sharing the LDD file of the original version? There's much stuff going on in there which I cannot see from such a tiny pic.

You can find the link at the top of the original post.

[VK-318]

Really impressive design. Personally, I think making the landing platform and Senator Organa's speeder both a bit bigger would be nice. If you're really looking for a challenge, you could try fixing the stairs by elevating the current ground floor one level and putting some of the rooms used for the Jedi Trials (referenced in Wookiepedia from Expanded Universe material) or the briefing, meditation, or war room underneath the original ground level.

[Ellisss_]

Awesome MOC! I wish it was bigger however. Great design like all yours other MOCS!

[Forresto]

I really love this I wish TLG would've made something similar especially since it wouldve given us more 501st troopers! Excellent all around!

[jonnyboyca]

Awesome MOC! I wish it was bigger however. Great design like all yours other MOCS!

I almost always wish my MOCs were bigger do you're not alone in that ;D If only I had enough money.

I really love this I wish TLG would've made something similar especially since it wouldve given us more 501st troopers! Excellent all around!

I agree. The temple is really the best locational set for all 3 prequels and would have made a greate ultimate collector's series set for those movies. A good core set of common minifigs plus a number of jedi previously spread out through other sets. And like you said Anakin's own 501st!

[Only Sinner]

Though not my favorite setting in the movies, the Jedi Temple featured heavily in TCW and I liked it there. This would make a great playset for either one, depending on which modules you build. The actual facade looks kind of lonely out there with all that wasted space in front, I might have considered pushing the whole thing to the edge of the baseplate and then allow for even more room inside!

[jonnyboyca]

Though not my favorite setting in the movies, the Jedi Temple featured heavily in TCW and I liked it there. This would make a great playset for either one, depending on which modules you build. The actual facade looks kind of lonely out there with all that wasted space in front, I might have considered pushing the whole thing to the edge of the baseplate and then allow for even more room inside!

It's not necessarily a pivotal setting or even the most interesting in the movies but it is common across them. There is a number more interesting locations I'd agree.

The front is rather sparse. There is probably some smart greebling ways to make it more interesting. Its mostly there because I liked the idea of being able to have the iconic walk up scene in the movie made possible. Originally there was no door at all, but it made the front feel completely non-functional play wise.

In fact the first design was completely enclosed and the could be opened up. The front design was simply repeated around the other three sides. But I got more interested in making a playable interior which was much cheaper and interesting than ordering all the tan parts for the 3 other sides.

[gotoAndLego]

No dead kids?

[jonnyboyca]

No dead kids?

Rimshot.