LEGO Ideas Discussion

[Robert8]

Looking at it, I think the only ones that are at the 19 day cutoff point, that currently have a hope of hitting 10k are the Adventuretime set, the Nathan Sawaya one and likely the other Golden Girls set (just because it will ride the sudden interest in the property now that the one hit 10k.) not much else in the 19 days left group would have any organized push to drive them home.

The Adventure Time set has 297 days left.

And, as you do, I think the other Golden Girls set will make it.

Edited April 11, 2015 by Robert8

[BirdOPrey5]

While the other Golden Girls set got a nice support boost I don't see it making it- the extra support is fading and it doesn't have the momentum to get thousands of likes in 18 days anymore. I also suspect the sites that give the other GG projects steam will be reluctant to tell their reader's to do it again for such a similar set. I hope it does, but unless a some new source of votes comes up, I don't see it happening.

[Robert8]

I wonder if all the attention the Golden Girls set is getting by media will affect the final decision in the review.

IMO, LEGO Ideas would get great publicity if the Golden Girls set gets approved

[Blondie-Wan]

It seems another project will make it before the great purge: The RMS Titanic!

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/1319

Unless there will be another miracle like the Golden Girls set, I think this will be the last one to achieve the 10000 supporters.

I don't know. The Great Purge is still about three weeks away, and that Titanic is just one of three projects with over 9000 votes as of this writing, and a number of others have over 8000. And there's no telling what other project might get a flash of media attention and be showered with a ton of votes in a short time.

It now seems clear the 1969 Chevrolet Corvette project is also going to make it into the batch whose deadline is coming up. As of this post, the deadline is still more than two weeks away, while the project needs just 78 more votes. It should easily become the eleventh (!) project to make it into this batch.

The big question for me now is, will there be a twelfth? Brick-built Adventure Time figures could make it, but at the rate it's been getting votes the last week or two it won't, unless there's a last-minute surge (though if not, it will definitely make it in time for the review batch after that, probably as the first project to do so). There are four other projects that each have over 8000 - three of which have over 8500, but they'll need good-sized last-minute bursts to make it into this batch. And three of those four are due to expire in the Great Ideas Purge, so if they don't make it into this batch, that's it for them.

It'll be a shame if multiple projects make it so far only to expire so close to the vote goal, but they'll be just the tip of the iceberg - or among the first few remains in the graveyard, as it were. Right now, scattered here and there around the Ideas site are perhaps a few dozen now-inactive projects, ones that either got archived or made it to 10k but got declined. In two and a half weeks, those few dozen or so will be joined by thousands of others that expired from hitting the deadline without reaching the vote goal, and after that there'll always be a steady trickle of additional projects expiring at any given time, a few each day or so.

Edited April 12, 2015 by Blondie-Wan

[Artanis I]

Like sand through the hourglass

[Blondie-Wan]

The Corvette made it last night.

[BirdOPrey5]

I hope they hold over some of the better ones if they can't make them all initially. That Corvette looks amazing and I'm not even a car guy but I'd buy that without a doubt. I'd also buy the Medieval Market, the Douglas DC3, and the Titanic. I'd probably get Golden Girls for the hell of it, put it up by my television. However the Corvette more than any of them jumps out to me- I was the first commenter on the project. :D

[AFOLguy1970]

If I had a project with a lot of votes and was not facing the big deadline, my hope would probably be NOT to reach 10,000 votes until after the cutoff for the current round. Who would want to compete against the ones BirdOPrey5 mentioned and possibly others? It does seem like some review periods are more competitive than others. Earlier, I was kind of hoping the piano would not hit 10000 until the next review, because it now goes up against the History Museum and Minas Tirith. Timing can be an important factor in the Lego Ideas process.

[Blondie-Wan]

If I had a project with a lot of votes and was not facing the big deadline, my hope would probably be NOT to reach 10,000 votes until after the cutoff for the current round. Who would want to compete against the ones BirdOPrey5 mentioned and possibly others? It does seem like some review periods are more competitive than others. Earlier, I was kind of hoping the piano would not hit 10000 until the next review, because it now goes up against the History Museum and Minas Tirith. Timing can be an important factor in the Lego Ideas process.

I've thought about that, but they are willing to hold things, up to a point - we've now had two consecutive reviews in which they approved more than one thing. And the first of those had two things approved right away while two other things were held for further evaluation (or license negotiation), and then one of those was one of the two items approved with the next review. As has already been noted, of course they're not going to approve a dozen things all at once, but they also clearly are willing to approve more than one thing at once, since they've already done that multiple times.

At any rate, while the owner of a project with lots of time left might well want it to go into a batch with few other projects competing with it, the creators of all those thousands of projects expiring in sixteen days have little to lose anyway, since if they don't make it into this batch they won't make it into any.

[Robert8]

The Corvette made it last night.

And that was the last one....

[Blondie-Wan]

And that was the last one....

Probably - almost certainly, even. But you never know...

(Hey, a week ago, did you expect a Golden Girls project to amass several thousand votes in one day, attaining the 10k votes a mere three weeks or so after it was posted?)

[Robert8]

Probably - almost certainly, even. But you never know...

(Hey, a week ago, did you expect a Golden Girls project to amass several thousand votes in one day, attaining the 10k votes a mere three weeks or so after it was posted?)

That was almost a miracle.... I don't think something like that will happen again soon

By the way, LEGO Ideas page will be updated on April 15th

[Hive]

Like sand through the hourglass

That would be hilarious, but sell even worse than a Golden Girls set.

[Artanis I]

That would be hilarious, but sell even worse than a Golden Girls set.

Haha, would it come with Joey from Friends as Dr Drake Ramore? My post was more a throwaway at the "steady trickle" comment though. But while we're at it, how about a Jerry Springer set?

[Blondie-Wan]

I'm not altogether convinced a Golden Girls set would sell badly, actually. Oh, sure, it'd sell poorly to LEGO's core target consumers of young kids, but they're not the primary market for Ideas sets anyway. It could sell well to certain people who don't normally buy LEGO for themselves, though, as well as LEGO fans who just want it for parts. And there must be some people who are outright fans of both LEGO and the show, for there to be (at least!) three different Golden Girls projects on Ideas. And really, how well would it have to sell, considering the limited runs of Ideas sets? If they did a run of only 20k units or so, I think they'd have no trouble moving them all.

[BirdOPrey5]

With the breakout success of Golden Girls I wondered how long it would be before all the old TV shows showed up. Yesterday I saw a Gilligan's Island set. It looked decent but there was very little to it besides the minifigs, a couple palm trees, and a one-piece boat. Looking forward to others, hope they are more substantial than just a couple trees. Would love to see a Dukes of Hazzard.

Edited April 15, 2015 by BirdOPrey5

[AFOLguy1970]

Thought about a Dukes set, but you know what will kill that idea: the nice Confederate flag on top of the General Lee. A shame too, since it would be as iconic as Ecto 1 or the Mystery Machine.

[BirdOPrey5]

It would be a sticker if anything, you don't have to use it.

[Blondie-Wan]

I don't think they want to have any portrayal of a Confederate flag appear in an official LEGO set, whether it's a sticker or a printed element, and if not, I can't say I blame them.

[Hive]

Why wouldn't LEGO do a Confederate flag? It's not a swastika or anything remotely as politically incorrect. It's a flag of a former nation, nothing more.

[Faefrost]

Why wouldn't LEGO do a Confederate flag? It's not a swastika or anything remotely as politically incorrect. It's a flag of a former nation, nothing more.

In North America the Confederate Battle Flag is viewed in some quarters as a symbol of racism and racial hatred against the black population. While the truth of the feeling is debatable from a historical perspective. (Many Americans did fight and die under that banner) the nature of what some take as its meaning these days tends to make it unwelcome in polite company and businesses will pretty much avoid it.

It wasn't so much the history of the flag as a battle standard of the Confederacy during the US Civil War that branded it as horrifically un pc. It was actually much later during the US Civil Rights Era, when most States in the then "Jim Crow" South added it to their State Flags as a protest against Federal Civil Rights laws. The Flag became something of a rallying banner for groups such as the Ku Klux Clan as well. So in at least the US it has taken on some of the same sort of baggage and meaning as the Swastika. (and we should probably remind ourselves before the Nazi's used it the Swastika was simply a Hindu symbol referencing the ever cyclical nature of the seasons and life. Not exactly anything hateful or abominable.)

Edited April 15, 2015 by Faefrost

[Blondie-Wan]

It's a flag of a former nation more or less defined by slavery, and while probably few equate it with hatred quite so strongly as the swastika, it definitely carries significant racial baggage.

A 2011 Pew Research poll revealed that nearly a third of all Americans, or 30%, have a "negative reaction" when "they see the Confederate flag displayed."[35] According to the same poll, this is three times more than those who have a positive reaction.

source

Like it or not, it is a controversial symbol today, and one deeply offensive to a sizable number of people. I don't think they'd even allow it on Ideas at all, let alone approve it as a set.

[Blondie-Wan]

Oooh, a major new update:

When we launched LEGO Ideas last year, we set a one year time limit for all projects to reach 10,000 supporters. Over time we learned that wasn’t quite long enough, even for some of the best projects. So for our first birthday, we devised a way to save the projects that show big potential, while still cleaning up old, abandoned projects and those that haven’t gathered large followings over time. Now, LEGO Ideas will give projects an initial one year (365) days, and will award more time to projects that reach two supporter milestones:

Projects that reach 1,000 supporters within one year will receive an additional 6 months (182 days).

Projects that reach 5,000 supporters before they expire will receive a second extension of 6 months (182 days).

Going forward, if your project reaches 1,000 supporters within its first year, it’ll have 182 days added to its “days left” clock. If your project continues growing and reaches 5,000 supporters, it’ll receive a second boost of 182 days. This means, projects that reach these supporter milestones in time now have a maximum of two years (729 days) to reach 10,000 supporters.

Your project must still reach at least 1,000 supporters within its first 365 days to continue; if you don’t hit that milestone, your project will still expire. At that time you’re welcome to re-submit your project and start over.

There are more details at the blog post.

[SMC]

^ if they were going to do this they should have done so before now, a lot of people now wont know which ones need to make it in 15days or not.

[Blondie-Wan]

^ if they were going to do this they should have done so before now, a lot of people now wont know which ones need to make it in 15days or not.

At the moment, we can figure it out by looking at how much support a project currently has and when it was posted. And soon they'll update the "Time remaining" shown on projects.

Of course, if there are projects we want to see make it, the best thing we can do remains supporting them ourselves and promoting them to others.

Edited April 15, 2015 by Blondie-Wan