Robert8 Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 What a mess! I don't know if I'm a fan of that idea. 1 year is long enough But I suspected they'd do something like this.... Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Hey, there are projects that have actually *been made sets* that took more than a year to accrue their votes. I don't think two years - a conditional two years, at that - is too long. There really are some great projects that haven't gotten noticed in a year that are deserving of more. Quote
Robert8 Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 That was almost a miracle.... I don't think something like that will happen again soon By the way, LEGO Ideas page will be updated on April 15th Well... It seems another miracle did happen! Quote
Faefrost Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 It's a fair compromise, and one that we speculated last year should have been bundled in from the start. Projects gaining solid traction gain more time while those going nowhere fall away. Good job to them for keeping it clean and simple. Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 I must say, I think they've done a great job of tweaking and evolving the platform since the earliest days of LEGO CUUSOO - virtually every change, large or small, has been something I'd consider an overall improvement (and the only exception, about no longer taking new part proposals, while unfortunate, is surely just a necessary concession to feasibility). I'm probably biased by my love for LEGO, but I'm thoroughly impressed by how they've run things. Yesterday's announcement also mentions a minor update to the Terms of Service about the addition of language concerning tax obligations of LEGO and creators of approved projects. It looks like pretty much what one might expect, and I'd have thought it was in there earlier, but apparently not, and if so it's good that it's there now. And, as you do, I think the other Golden Girls set will make it. While the other Golden Girls set got a nice support boost I don't see it making it- the extra support is fading and it doesn't have the momentum to get thousands of likes in 18 days anymore. I also suspect the sites that give the other GG projects steam will be reluctant to tell their reader's to do it again for such a similar set. I hope it does, but unless a some new source of votes comes up, I don't see it happening. Well, I think it just got that new source of votes, in a sense, anyway. Under these new terms, it should now get a whole additional year. It almost certainly will need at least some of that time, though, and won't go into the same review batch as the one that got so much crazy attention. That might diminish the chances of either one being approved, from whatever they would have been if more than one had gotten through in the same batch. One thing I can see happening with this new rule is a lot more projects making it into each review batch. Combine that with how CUUSOO / Ideas has grown in general, and we might suddenly start seeing much larger review batches. Already the current batch getting ready to close is going to have at least eleven projects, which is two more than the previous record holder, and now good projects that already demonstrate potential will have a little more time to make their vote goals; I wonder whether we might start seeing huge review batches, with 20, 30 or more projects at a time... Quote
Robert8 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Well, I think it just got that new source of votes, in a sense, anyway. Under these new terms, it should now get a whole additional year. It almost certainly will need at least some of that time, though, and won't go into the same review batch as the one that got so much crazy attention. That might diminish the chances of either one being approved, from whatever they would have been if more than one had gotten through in the same batch. Definitely. That project is doomed. If they approved the Golden Girls set in this review, that one won't be approved because there'd be already a GG set. If they reject the Golden Girls in this review, that one won't be approved for the same reason they didn't approve the first one. Edited April 17, 2015 by Robert8 Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 Most likely. But there is a third Golden Girls project, and though it's far behind the other two in votes, it did also get a boost from the recent attention. Conceivably both of those could go into the batch after this one, and if so - if they had a batch with two other projects based on the show, right after this one which also had a project based on the show - one of them might have a chance. Quote
just2good Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 Is there any rules against resubmitting a project that reached 10,000 supports again? Quote
jonwil Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 I suspect re-submitting a project that got to review and was rejected wont help since the reasons it was rejected at review likely still apply. Quote
just2good Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 I suspect re-submitting a project that got to review and was rejected wont help since the reasons it was rejected at review likely still apply. True, but I just keep thinking about that amazing Zelda project from a year or so ago... the Iron Knuckle Encounter. Seeing how that teaser of Doctor Who shows that the Doctor has a new hair mould, I think LEGO should reconsider doing that Iron Knuckle one with a new hat/hair combo mould and stuff... Quote
jonwil Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 Dr Who doesn't have a new hair mold. If anything, it has a hair mold that was created for some other set and is being used by Dr Who. LEGO is very clear on this, they will NOT make new molds for Ideas sets and I see no reason they would have changed their rules for the Dr Who set. Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 I suspect re-submitting a project that got to review and was rejected wont help since the reasons it was rejected at review likely still apply. That would probably be the case most of the time, but sometimes a set might not make it due to some temporary circumstance - a necessary license being held by a competitor, for example, or TLG offering a similar set at the same time a project is in review. In such cases it might be worth one's while. For example, not too long ago they archived all Jurassic Park projects on the site when it emerged Hasbro held the construction toy rights to the franchise, but when the new movie's release date shifted, it apparently nullified Hasbro's license terms, freeing the license for LEGO, who swooped in and scooped it up, and projects based on the series were allowed again. Quote
Phoxtane Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 I think I saw a little further back in this thread about yet another Legend of Zelda set reaching some important vote milestone - either 1k or 5k. I'm getting mildly irked, as that's either the third or fourth Legend of Zelda set that'll reach the 10,000 vote goal and be rejected for exactly the same reasons: New parts, new printings, price point, or some combination of the three. I feel like they need to add a specific statement in the rules that says 'At this time LoZ is not under consideration for Lego Ideas', sort of the converse to the 'Dr. Who is now allowed to be under consideration for review' statement they made a while back. Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 We don't know exactly why the last one didn't make it though, IIRC. They stopped giving exact reasons a while ago for why projects don't get approved. Moreover, it's conceivable someone could come up with a Legend of Zelda project that doesn't require any new molds, and they don't want to rule it out (it helps, of course, that all projects submitted now must use only existing element shapes). Quote
Lyichir Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 We don't know exactly why the last one didn't make it though, IIRC. They stopped giving exact reasons a while ago for why projects don't get approved. Moreover, it's conceivable someone could come up with a Legend of Zelda project that doesn't require any new molds, and they don't want to rule it out (it helps, of course, that all projects submitted now must use only existing element shapes). That's the real reason a blanket ban wouldn't work. From what's failed so far, it seems that the likely issue is a disconnect between what Lego Ideas can deliver and Nintendo's standards for character portrayals—currently existing hair/hat elements likely aren't "on-model" enough for Nintendo's approval. But even that's not a total barrier for Lego Ideas projects. It's possible that a project like this one that is not minifigure- or character-based could pass muster. In fact, that kind of project is probably the best hope for people who do want a minifig-based Zelda theme eventually, since like Minecraft, a successful Ideas set could pave the way for a full theme with a budget to match. Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 That's the sort of thing I was thinking - perhaps something like a sculpture-style bust of a character would be a way for an Ideas set to get LEGO's foot in the Nintendo license door, as it were, allowing for a full-on theme with its own molds later on (as Minecraft got). Of course, it's also possible Nintendo for one reason or another simply isn't interested in this sort of merchandise (or even that they are, but they and TLG aren't able to come to terms they find mutually satisfactory). There could be any number of obstacles aside from the special molds issue (and some of them may be known to Nintendo but not to LEGO, say). Quote
Robert8 Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 It seems LEGO Ideas a place full of miracles. https://ideas.lego.com/projects/17353 That thing had like 7000 supporters 2 days ago. How did this happen? Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Nathan Sawaya stared actively promoting it recently on social media. It may also have gotten additional attention elsewhere that I don't know about, but I have been seeing it turn up on Facebook and so on. Quote
Robert8 Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Nathan Sawaya stared actively promoting it recently on social media. It may also have gotten additional attention elsewhere that I don't know about, but I have been seeing it turn up on Facebook and so on. Really? Well... it was quite effective I've some post promoting The Little Prince set Quote
Artanis I Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Can anyone see that being made as a set? I mean it's entirely made of yellow bricks, and if TLG were to make it "set-like" it would no longer resemble the original sculpture. I wouldn't pay <insert default Ideas price in your region> for a bunch of yellow bricks. Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Well, the original is a well-known piece, and it could be seen as promoting the brand, and TLG did at one time sell single-color parts packs anyway. Moreover, since it would have such a simple parts assortment, being made of basic bricks in a basic color, it could probably be produced with minimal effect on the rest of their production capacity. That might factor into whether they produce it. I think I'd probably buy it, myself. Quote
tafkatb Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 I would definitely buy it. His Oscar statue would probably sell better but Yellow would be a very nice piece to sell at art museum gift shops, and Ideas is all about tapping new markets. Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 I would definitely buy it. His Oscar statue would probably sell better but Yellow would be a very nice piece to sell at art museum gift shops, and Ideas is all about tapping new markets. Tangentially, I think it would be great if one could get some of the many science-related ones in science museum gift shops. I've long kind of hoped we could get another run of the MSL Curiosity Rover if science museums requested it for their shops. The Oscar statue would probably be fairly popular, but I kind of doubt AMPAS would allow the license. Quote
dr_spock Posted April 23, 2015 Posted April 23, 2015 Or they could ask too much for the license to be worth LEGO's while. Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted April 24, 2015 Posted April 24, 2015 (edited) Hey, Small YELLOW made it, with days to spare! We now have a full dozen projects at the "Achieved Support" stage that will make up the next review batch - already three more than the previous record, and there are still several days to go. Just how many more might we see? Edited April 24, 2015 by Blondie-Wan Quote
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