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I'd rather see the sdcc spiderwoman then a generic shield agent since there's gonna be one in the miles morales spidey set this summer.

Anyone have an idea where the cannon is based on? From the game maybe?

Also the box says black flash instead blackbolt :-s

I would also rather see the SDCC Spiderwoman - That would be sweet.

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Or Medusa or Lockjaw or invisible woman invisible style etc etc :-D

The box says its number is sy208c. There should be an A and B at least.

Does TTKim have more pictures?

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The design and print looks pretty accurate to the SDCC figure.

All of the colours look very saturated on that whole photo so it may not very quite as vibrant... which wouldn't be a bad thing!

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The box says its number is sy208c. There should be an A and B at least.

Does TTKim have more pictures?

i got that pic from chinese website and there's only one of them

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Hi everyone, I'm new to this forum and been a bootleg Marvel mini figure collector for a few months now, anyone got news on what Shengyuan and Decool will release next? Probably Ultron related I would assume

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Try adding them to your cart. They both then say out of stock.

I've just added them to my cart... I'm not buying them but it still adds them OK.

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I've just added them to my cart... I'm not buying them but it still adds them OK.

Adds them to mine OK too but says "This product is sold out or the seller discontinued selling this product."

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i got that pic from chinese website and there's only one of them

Ah okidoki!

On the top of the pic you see also the start of another box. In red. Like the last 207 series the colour of the box matches the main colour of the superhero. So it could be spider-woman, but i'm afraid it's just another iron man :-(

If they would release just regular stormtroopers they would do great business i think. A lot of people want them.

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SY's Star Wars stuff hasn't been that great from what I've seen... Not bad... but certainly not up to the level of their Super Heroes stuff.... in fact some of them have been a bit dodgy and heavy with their print as well as some human face designs being a little iffy.

The Revan figure in the Grievous Bike set looked really good though from what I could see. Maybe with them reproducing armour etc on the recent sets it's just down to the helmet moulds as to whether they'll be any good. As long as they're better than the cloned Wolverine from the X-Jet then they should be OK ;)

I agree though... if they put out a Stormtrooper set of good quality I could see people picking up a lot of those. I've got around 4 of the new OT versions with the leg printing and the calendar this year will have one so I'll have a couple more by then...I also have around 4 of the older versions without the leg printing and as I don't really army build then I wouldn't need them... but they'd be tempting nonetheless.

Really interested to see what the SY208 set comprises of now we've seen BlackBolt. I have the NACM and I think the SY version will be missing the arm printing. Seeing as how SY210 is the set with the SDCC Batman I wonder if there's a SY209 set that we've yet to see anything of?

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Adds them to mine OK too but says "This product is sold out or the seller discontinued selling this product."

Maybe soon to be available? Idk.

Quality looking SY Riddler though. Would pick it up just for that.

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Maybe soon to be available? Idk.

Quality looking SY Riddler though. Would pick it up just for that.

I'm sure some on here got orders in when they first appeared. I've blown my Fego budget for the week. I'm sure they'll all show up again at keen prices.

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Maybe soon to be available? Idk.

Quality looking SY Riddler though. Would pick it up just for that.

I think they've already released that version of the Riddler in the sets released around the time of that wave from Lego.

I think it's also interesting that they've used their game design Flash rather than the clone of the official Lego version.

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Guys,

Nice to see you enthousiastic about the release of Black Bolt,

Just to let you know, as NACM reseller, they are stopping the release of super heroes custom due at the bootleg company,

I know, i know, it's the business, and i'm glad to see on a Lego forum a full topic with such good offer buying figs from company with the same spirit than Lego...(joke)

Once, there will be no more customers, will be glad to take a look here, to see what Decool and SY will release...

Take care folk's

Cy.

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I used to spend so much money on customs. I couldn't stop buying them once I started. And then bootlegs came out :p

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Guys,

Nice to see you enthousiastic about the release of Black Bolt,

Just to let you know, as NACM reseller, they are stopping the release of super heroes custom due at the bootleg company,

I know, i know, it's the business, and i'm glad to see on a Lego forum a full topic with such good offer buying figs from company with the same spirit than Lego...(joke)

Once, there will be no more customers, will be glad to take a look here, to see what Decool and SY will release...

Take care folk's

Cy.

It's the printing that prevents most people from making professional looking customs. Black Bolt's costume was designed by Marvel and possibly Maybe Lego-fied in a game (don't know, haven't played them). It's a shame the Chinese companies don't approach designers, ask for submissions or give credit, but the world won't end if NACM quit. As a NACM reseller you're obviously happy taking a cut selling unlicensed figures? We won't mention that though...

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Guys,

Nice to see you enthousiastic about the release of Black Bolt,

Just to let you know, as NACM reseller, they are stopping the release of super heroes custom due at the bootleg company,

I know, i know, it's the business, and i'm glad to see on a Lego forum a full topic with such good offer buying figs from company with the same spirit than Lego...(joke)

Once, there will be no more customers, will be glad to take a look here, to see what Decool and SY will release...

Take care folk's

Cy.

Well if that is true, its an absolute shame that NACM has decided to stop making Super Hero figs. I will say a few things on this front:

1) I am a loyal customer of premium costumizers: Christo, Phoenix, MR, Popk, Penz, Online and yes, NACM -- so I feel pretty qualified to give my view as a bonafide paying customer of premium customs.

2) I also buy DC / SY figs -- mostly for figs that others do not release (but sometimes for extra parts, MOCs, MODs, other designs, etc.)

3) The fact that a bootlegger releases a copy of a premium custom (again, in my view) does not affect my decision to purchase a premium custom.

4) The only exception is when there is very limited supply (e.g. SDCCs) and the secondary market price explodes to 10-30x the price of a normal fig (e.g. SDCCs or exclusive polybags -- the Electro polybag was low $200s last time I checked -- an absurd price for a figure which should be receive a general wide release)

5) In these instances, I am more than happy to buy a bootleg variant for a tiny fraction of the price. I probably feel better about this kind of purchase than any other purchase I make (probably including non-Lego items as well).

6) I think the general tone of the above post would seem to place a measure of the "blame" (if there really is a need to place any) on the buyers -- which I feel is very misguided. Yes, you can place blame on the bootleggers. Yes, you can try and go after them. But bootlegs will exist, have existed and will continue to exist. I don't see why buyers should take any blame for this.

7) Others have also pointed out (correctly) that even premium customizers are, ironically, not exactly selling products "legally" -- that is to say with the express consent and authority of the legal owners of the characters in question (e.g. MARVEL, Disney). Are these premium customizers paying royalties to the legal owners of these characters? I think not.

8) In other words, TLG has a real reason to gripe about bootleggers. Disney has a real reason to gripe. MARVEL has a real reason to gripe. Customizers? Eh, take what you can get I say. Live and let live. Does it suck that they would straight out copy some designs? Yeah, it sucks. But, is it really going to "destroy" your business? If you think it will, yes, by all means, you should stop and no one would blame you. But I don't think it would for most (if not all) premium customizers -- again, the market segments are entirely different.

Bottom line? If NACM or any other premium customizers feel like they want to stop -- of course -- its always their choice. No one is forcing them to sell. But the demand for premium customs will always be there, and I truly believe that it is a separate market segment.

It is a crude analogy, but take another premium product such as Rolex watches. You can go to the back streets of many Asian cities (Bangkok, Hong Kong, Ho Chi Minh) and see knock-off Rolex watches everywhere. Some quality is absolutely horrendous. But actually some knock-offs are quite good (that may pass the eye test of a normal person). Do these really affect they end demand of the genuine Rolex watches? Perhaps, but I suspect it to be a rounding error to the overall sales. One could actually argue (and I do) that these knock-offs actually help raise the profile of Rolex watches (as a symbol of luxury) and that there is always a given percentage of knock-off buyers that not only aspire to own a genuine Rolex watch one day, but actually do end up buying the real thing at some point in their lifetime. Not all of course, but enough I would argue to offset any negative effect in end demand in the long run.

Well enough micro-economics 101.

I hope that NACM re-thinks their decision to stop making Super Hero figures (if indeed that is their decision). They make some of the best premium figures in the market. They are in the market segment of the "Rolexes" of premium customs. Your buyers will be there. I have been a loyal fan, supporter and customer in the past, in the present and hopefully in the future as well.

Thank you for reading.

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I hope that NACM re-thinks their decision to stop making Super Hero figures. They make some of the best premium figures in the market and I have been a loyal fan, supporter and customer.

Same here. I have one of each of their figures as well as the printed black Spiderman head and the Ghostbusters arms.

If that was an attempt to make some people feel guilty then I really don't see the point. One or two people saying they were happy about Blackbolt being released?... I bet there's quite a few people here that don't even know he's been done by a customiser already and it's the people on this thread that have then mentioned that it's a rip of the NACM figure.

I own around 70 Pad printed custom minifigures from the people mentioned by Goodfella above. The community that buys these premium customs will always be there regardless of the release of cheap bootlegs. I think most people here use bootlegs as a way of filling the gaps in their collection although some may be perfectly happy to have bootlegs in their collection rather than even official Lego.

By the way... I never use resellers. I buy direct from the customisers. Why give the reseller a profit? Even if they sell them at the same price as the customiser why should I not just give that money to the people who make them?

I think NACM stopping might have more to do with a cease and desist order from Marvel or DC as I know another customiser has had someone whisper a quiet word in his ear. Whether people like it or not the designs used by NACM and a lot of other customisers are owned by Lego and Marvel / DC. Even customisers who create completely unique designs are still infringing the intellectual property and likeness of a copyrighted character.

Possibly something to do with the release of a certain masked mercenary that was planned for very soon? Let's see if that gets a release and if not then I think we can assume they were threatened with legal action.

Let's not start taking any kind of moral high ground here. If Marvel or DC start getting strong with people then the bootleg companies may actually end up as the only way to get these figures anyway... I certainly hope not but the way things have happened recently I wouldn't be too surprised.

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