Kumbbl Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 nicjasno has designed a complete new front axle for the unimog 8110 which performs very well: has much better steering and eliminates the very annoying bump steer of the original front axle of the 8110... highly recommended. But now i have a question about the used building technic - Please have a look at the following picture: Its a clever build and he uses a round bar 4L to connect thin liftarms by its cross axle holes. Would you judge this a legal building technic to connect liftarms by its cross-holes in other angles than 0 or 90 degree? Quote
Fissl Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 I would say yes. when you try this in LDD it works, too. Quote
Blakbird Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 It is a pretty common technique in MOCs, although I have never seen it used in an official set. The diameter of the light saber blade is not a coincidence; it was made to fit inside pins and Technic hollow studs. It does not stress any parts. Seems perfectly legal to me. Quote
Kelkschiz Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) I am not sure it i'd judge it legal or not. If you put a gun to my head i'd say no; because I don't think it was meant to be used like that. However, I do sympathize with his dilemma. Unfortunately, not all LEGO parts we need actually exist. Edited May 9, 2014 by Kelkschiz Quote
Appie Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 I am not sure it i'd judge it legal or not. If you put a gun to my head i'd say no; because I don't think it was meant to be used like that. However, I do sympathize with his dilemma. Unfortunately, not all LEGO parts we need actually exist. Since when have people in MOCs ever stopped using a Lego part because it was not its "intended" use? I find it far more interesting if people come up with a new purpose for a Lego piece. An example: I have seen people use the leg part of a minifig to make up a part of the wall on a modular. Intended use? Nope. Creative and lovely to look at? Yup. Quote
Milan Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 I say it is perfectly fine. I used that part configuration in my halftrack and some older mocs. Worked perfectly. Since when have people in MOCs ever stopped using a Lego part because it was not its "intended" use? I find it far more interesting if people come up with a new purpose for a Lego piece. Quote
piterx Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 that's not legal or illegal...that's just a good idea of using a piece in a way it wasn't meant to be! Quote
allanp Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 I'de say that as long as it's static it's legal. I'de also say that I prefer the original axle because it's more life like, but that's just me . If only the hubs were deeper and the portal gearboxes designed to fit deeper inside the wheel. Quote
Zerobricks Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 Totally legal I saw a city firetruck using this in bent beams and crane arm. Quote
Zimix Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 If everything needs to be legal for some... this building technic is according to the law of creativity Quote
Kelkschiz Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Since when have people in MOCs ever stopped using a Lego part because it was not its "intended" use? I find it far more interesting if people come up with a new purpose for a Lego piece. An example: I have seen people use the leg part of a minifig to make up a part of the wall on a modular. Intended use? Nope. Creative and lovely to look at? Yup. That was not quite what i meant to say. I didn't express myself clearly enough. I think using legs as part of a wall is intended use. I think unintended use is using a piece, that is made a certain way and for a certain purpose, for a different purpose that it was not designed for, like the stresses that will apply to it. This most certainly does not include creative use of parts. If the part in question is a moving part it might damage the LEGO, and that would make it 'unintended use' in my eyes. But as i tried to say, i am not sure either way. Edited May 9, 2014 by Kelkschiz Quote
Paul Boratko Posted May 9, 2014 Posted May 9, 2014 This is a technique that a Technic desginer at Lego would probably only use as a last resort... It is probably only legal in their eyes in certain situations... They may use it in a place where there is no weight or heavy stress on that part because it isn't as strong as an axle... If I remember correctly that bar has a tendency to slide around as it doesn't have much friction to it(That is a Light Saber rod right?) which is a good thing and a bad thing as it could possibly work itself loose from repeated movement... Quote
Rockbrick Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 Legal, similar to 3mm flexible hose used for curves in axle holes too.... Quote
GoldVillage Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Legal! if its not, where's the lego police and what can they do? :P Quote
Boxerlego Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Putting the bar inside a cross axle hole is legal, but I do believe that I see a illegal technique being used here, can you spot it. Quote
dr_spock Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Legal. It is not stressing any parts and not loose. I've seen it use in trains like pantographs. Quote
Paul Boratko Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Putting the bar inside a cross axle hole is legal, but I do believe that I see a illegal technique being used here, can you spot it. It's the 2 x 2 L shaped plate that is inserted studs first into the liftarm below it... It's right below the arrow... Quote
Conchas Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 It's the 2 x 2 L shaped plate that is inserted studs first into the liftarm below it... It's right below the arrow... Yes that's an illegal technique for sure! No studs allowed into Technic holes. Quote
Marcel1980 Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 If it works, it works. I find the discussion if its legal or not a bit useless. Its thinking out of box and pushing limits. Quote
Paul Boratko Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Yes that's an illegal technique for sure! No studs allowed into Technic holes. I've done this a couple times in a few of my models(My Porsche) with trans clear plates inserted into technic connectors and once I was told that was not allowed, I have serched for other methods... Quote
Conchas Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Theory is that it stress the studs and decrease their clutch power. Techniques that are supposed to damage parts are never allowed. Quote
Paul Boratko Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Theory is that it stress the studs and decrease their clutch power. Techniques that are supposed to damage parts are never allowed. Of course unless there is no choice to break the rules.. Like they did with a certain blue pin in the 8043 excavator... And since then I have used it the same way on several occasions... If it works for Lego right..? Quote
kieran Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 Have single studs not been inserted onto liftarms to represent lights befor by LEGO? Quote
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