vhtf.hw.lego Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Any EBers can offer me advice on this auction I won in yahoo.com.sg? http://sg.auctions.yahoo.com/sg/i::230557106 The seller informed me that this is a auction for only 1 minifig after I won the auction. Refused to give me those 4 minifigs I won. What is your comments with this.
Scouty Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 If you paid 9$ for this auction, you got one....as it says "each sold seperately." But if you bought all of them for 35$, contact the people at Yahoo! auction.
vhtf.hw.lego Posted June 2, 2007 Author Posted June 2, 2007 But if each sold separately why don't list at separate listings? Starting bid at SGD 9.00 and end at SGD 9.00 with 1 bid from me, what if that there were a second bidder and the closing bid was SGD 10.00. Will he have won a minifig with an additional minifig's hands?
snefroe Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 But if each sold separately why don't list at separate listings? Starting bid at SGD 9.00 and end at SGD 9.00 with 1 bid from me, what if that there were a second bidder and the closing bid was SGD 10.00. Will he have won a minifig with an additional minifig's hands? well it looks to me that the guy had three copies of a 9 dollar minifig; you bought one. i don't know if you could actually bid any higher. if you have two people who are interested in one fig each, i think he would have had to sell one to both for 9 dollars. his price is after all 9 dollars for one, that's what he says, unless some one would have taken the package deal.
supernova Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 (edited) well it looks to me that the guy had three copies of a 9 dollar minifig; you bought one. i don't know if you could actually bid any higher. if you have two people who are interested in one fig each, i think he would have had to sell one to both for 9 dollars. his price is after all 9 dollars for one, that's what he says, unless some one would have taken the package deal. I agree. You see stuff like that on ebay as well. The picture doesn't always show what's described, if the description says otherwise then the description is always correct. PS: Just to let you know all the 4 ninjas shown are not the real deal. The torso and I believe the head as well as different from the legendary green ninja. Edited June 2, 2007 by supernova
Jipay Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 He tried to make multiple auctions look like one. This not only annoys you but also yahoo, as they get less money. Mail them !
oo7 Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 I don't thing he posted that picture to be deceitful, but because he wanted to save money with all the items in one auction. I could be wrong as I don't know Yahoo Auctions, but I think he wants it to be a 'buy it now' sort of selling, not an auction. If you want to buy a the leader minifig you are supposed to bid 11SGD. If you want to buy one of the three, you pay 9SGD. If you want to buy all of them together you bid 35SGD. This system seems very confusing and abusive. Definitely email Yahoo Auctions. PLUS the seller is lying when we typed "Mint condition green ninja original lego". These are NOT original mint Ninja minifigures. They were once mint, but the seller took the off the valuable Ninja torsos off all four and replaced three with the much less expensive Jing Lee torso from the Adventurers line (which doesn't look to shabby). The fourth he replaced with a green torso from the RACERS product line, which does not look anything like a ninja torso. Furthermore, I think at least the three lower-ranked have Jing Lee's head, not the original male ninja heads. It's very possible the fourth does too. http://www.bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?M=rac021
Landlubber Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 There are so many dodgey points in that auction that it's not funny. 1. Quantity is listed as 1. 2. The wording is not suitable for an auction. It reads like a classifieds ad which makes no sense on an auction page. He states that there is a no reserve price for quick deal and also offers a buy it now. 3. Mint original ninja? Here's the original ninja torso. Tell him if he doesn't send you all 4 ninja's for the price you bid that you will be forced to report him to Yahoo Auctions for unclear listings and misrepresentation.
supernova Posted June 2, 2007 Posted June 2, 2007 Just so you guys know, Yahoo! auctions and e-bay auctions in Singapore are run like a classifieds area. Most of the stuff are overpriced etc. Moreover, the seller is not charged any fee to list an auction, so they just list whatever they like, and what's supposed to matter is the wording. While I agree this is kind of a dodgy auction, there are worse ones out there, and since the seller doesn't pay yahoo! or ebay I don't think there's much customer service provided from these companies. The best you can do is to leave a negative feedback, but you should be expecting a retaliatory negative feedback at the very least. (and this is true for some ebay.co.uk auctions... sigh)
highlandcattle Posted June 3, 2007 Posted June 3, 2007 Just so you guys know, Yahoo! auctions and e-bay auctions in Singapore are run like a classifieds area. Most of the stuff are overpriced etc. Moreover, the seller is not charged any fee to list an auction, so they just list whatever they like, and what's supposed to matter is the wording.While I agree this is kind of a dodgy auction, there are worse ones out there, and since the seller doesn't pay yahoo! or ebay I don't think there's much customer service provided from these companies. The best you can do is to leave a negative feedback, but you should be expecting a retaliatory negative feedback at the very least. (and this is true for some ebay.co.uk auctions... sigh) Report him, it is shady and he owes you four fake ninjas for 9 bucks
vhtf.hw.lego Posted June 4, 2007 Author Posted June 4, 2007 Well, I had dispute with him pertaining for his items. His reply is please READ AUCTIONS CAREFULLY BEFORE BIDDING! What a loser I guess.... Thank you for your your comments. Perharps I will show him this link but will hide this forum page away from him *sweet*
Mr Hobbles Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 I gotta agree with him I'm afraid. It's well known on auction sites that you should read the description carefully, and you don't go by what you see in the picture. He quite clearly states that $9 buys you one. So you should get one.
oo7 Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 I gotta agree with him I'm afraid. It's well known on auction sites that you should read the description carefully, and you don't go by what you see in the picture. He quite clearly states that $9 buys you one. So you should get one. That is true, BUT he lies. He wrote MINT CONDITION GREEN NINJA ORIGINAL LEGO, which it certainly is not. Tell him that and report him to Yahoo Auctions. If that doesn't work, refrain from giving him positive feedback. It's not the original Ninja figure as it uses heads and torsos from completely different product lines, and it can't be true mint condition as he assembled them from those other pieces only using original ninja balaclava! (and perhaps the legs)
chewie Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 I'm agreeing as well, the auction states "Mint condition green ninja original lego, Each sold separately @ 9.00 dollar each." Now, he may have not been too truthful about the mint condition/original part but the rest is clearly stated and seems to be a mistake on your end.
tedbeard Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 Now, he may have not been too truthful about the mint condition/original part but the rest is clearly stated and seems to be a mistake on your end. I see no mistake. The "9.00 each" applied only to the "buy it now" option. The auction was clearly for four figures. If they were a fixed price item then they should not have been accepting bids as an auction.
Mr Hobbles Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 oo7: The minifig is made out of original LEGO pieces, and the pieces that are used makes up something that constitutes a green coloured Ninja. It may not be the same Ninja that comes from the Ninja theme, but it's still a Ninja, made out of mint condition original LEGO parts. tedbeard: As far as I can tell, the auction was for one. The title says "Ninja" not "Ninjas" plural. I admit I don't see how the auction was going to work. Was he meaning bids of $9-17 get one, $18-27 get two, etc? He should have set up multiple auctions with buy it now's of $9. However as it turned out, the auction went for $9, which according to the listing means one Ninja. Also the title of the auction suggests "Ninja", as in one. So I still gotta go with my original theory.
oo7 Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 It may not be the same Ninja that comes from the Ninja theme Therefore it's not truly mint. The Dictionary. com unabridged describes 'Mint' as Philately. (of a stamp) being in its original, unused condition. It's just too ambiguous. He should have specified they are not the original Ninja torsos, although they are original Lego. Especially because the Ninja leader torso does not resemble a Ninja because it's from the RACERS product line. The leader's torso does not properly constitute. Of course, the seller could have wrote that, but he's decided to be sly about the whole thing as the original torso is worth much more. I admit I don't see how the auction was going to work. Was he meaning bids of $9-17 get one, $18-27 get two, etc? He should have set up multiple auctions with buy it now's of $9. It's not supposed to make fluent sense. The seller cheated the Yahoo system to save time, effort and money. You bid a certain amount as a "buy it now" type thing depending on which package you want. It's very unclear and simply deceitful. It leaves me wondering what would happen if many people wanted it and someone bid more than his prices.
Mr Hobbles Posted June 6, 2007 Posted June 6, 2007 (edited) Therefore it's not truly mint. The Dictionary. com unabridged describes 'Mint' as Philately. (of a stamp) being in its original, unused condition. It's just too ambiguous. He should have specified they are not the original Ninja torsos, although they are original Lego. Especially because the Ninja leader torso does not resemble a Ninja because it's from the RACERS product line. The leader's torso does not properly constitute. Of course, the seller could have wrote that, but he's decided to be sly about the whole thing as the original torso is worth much more. You missed my point about it not being an original Ninja. Even if it is not made up of the parts that make a Ninja theme Ninja, the end result still resembles a Ninja. I look at the models in the picture and see Ninja's, not racer drivers. The mint I believe refers to the condition of the bricks that make up the end result. I see no teeth marks, no discoloration, and therefore I see mint. The original poster was wondering if he had been cheated out of three minifigs, not whether he had been given "original" Ninja's or not. So he obviously sees Ninja's too, not racer drivers. And as for the point of whether he has been cheated out of three minifigs, I don't think he has for the points I've made above. :-) Edited June 6, 2007 by Mr Hobbles
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