Which models are really UCS?

[Fuppylodders]

I will do, but Im working on other things, as well as life. So don't be expecting it anytime soon.

[rollermonkey]

As if this argument wasn't contentious enough....

UCS Tumbler was leaked today by USA Today, and virtually every Lego site blew it up from there.

UCS: Definitely not just a Star Wars thing any more.

[Captain Settle]

A UCS Batmobile came out during LEGO Batman's first run aswell. But I guess this does show it wasn't just a one off.

[Mencot]

So is there gonna be an other SW UCS set this year and will it be Boba fetts Slave I?

Saw some video on youtube( that ofcourse can be fake) about a UCS Slave I with a set number 75065!

[GuyDudeMan27]

So is there gonna be an other SW UCS set this year and will it be Boba fetts Slave I?

Saw some video on youtube( that ofcourse can be fake) about a UCS Slave I with a set number 75065!

The slave 1 was confirmed here a little while ago, but I'm not sure if it will be boba's or jango's. Brickset list set 75060 as being a UCS star wars set, and 75065 doesn't exist

[Mencot]

The slave 1 was confirmed here a little while ago, but I'm not sure if it will be boba's or jango's. Brickset list set 75060 as being a UCS star wars set, and 75065 doesn't exist

Yea 75060 it is, not ...65 (exciting news, I have waited for this UCS for a long time)

Edited July 21, 2014 by Mencot

[Blackice200]

I consider UCS sets to be any sets that are larger than minifig scale.

[Fuppylodders]

I consider UCS sets to be any sets that are larger than minifig scale.

And therein lies the problem of people trying to define UCS.

10026 is not larger than minifig scale, yet it is a UCS. The 10179 Millennium Falcon is minifig scale, therefore does not fall under UCS to you?

[jimmynick]

To be a UCS it needs to include these two aspects:

1. be super detailed
   
2. include an info card
   

And therein lies the problem of people trying to define UCS.

10026 is not larger than minifig scale, yet it is a UCS. The 10179 Millennium Falcon is minifig scale, therefore does not fall under UCS to you?

Eh, to me a UCS model is "primarily for display" - so the contentious Naboo N-1 fighter counts, and so does the 10179 Millennium Falcon - though it is to minifig scale, it is a behemoth and for showing off / display.

As if this argument wasn't contentious enough....

UCS Tumbler was leaked today by USA Today, and virtually every Lego site blew it up from there.

UCS: Definitely not just a Star Wars thing any more.

A UCS Batmobile came out during LEGO Batman's first run aswell. But I guess this does show it wasn't just a one off.

Is 76023 The Tumbler *officially* UCS? TBB and Eurobricks's front page both use the UCS term but in the designer video there's no mention of the UCS title. I think from colloquial use of the UCS title, I think we can say we know what it means.

[rollermonkey]

Dang near every site is saying UCS except those that are quoting the TLG press release verbatim. Someone had a box image up yesterday but I can't find it now... It said Ultimate Collector's Series and had the same symbol from the Sandcrawler, but in blue... Unless it was a VERY good photoshop...

[ummester]

Why can't UCS just be anything that is aimed more towards collection than play?

There could be a UCS castle, a UCS Black Pearl and so on. Ultimate Collector Series - a set more tailored to collection than play. Scale has nothing to do with it, neither does franchise or even build quality, really. It's just not a set you will generally find with all the 'toy' sets at the local department store.

Arguably these sets could be UCS under this definition but TLG has labelled them hard to find instead, so they are not technically UCS.

http://shop.lego.com...ted-House-10228

http://shop.lego.com...f-Orthanc-10237

All UCS sets are packaged and marketted more for collection and display than play and all are harder to find than sets packaged for play.

Edited July 23, 2014 by ummester

[Robert_88]

I will showcase my conclution of you guys opinios with this picture: http://imgur.com/NQ9QzCl

The models I won't be counting as USC are (I'm too lazy the look up the set numbers):

The set with the 4 Tie fighters

Cloud City battle

The new and smaller Blockad Runner

Republic Gunship drop-of-thing ^^

The AT-AT

The old Sand Crawler

The play-set Death Star

Now... Feel free to agree/disagree.

I'm afraid even TLG doesn't know which models are UCS.

Edited July 23, 2014 by Robert_88

[LoRd AmUnRa]

this is madness

I never said the N-1 is not a UCS...

but lets stay by facts PLZ!! do you agree with mee?:

1. "UCS" is a term invented by TLG ?! right?!, do you agree yes or no?

2. This term is only a purpose for advertising LEGO star wars Model, like the lego system model theme. ?! yes no?

3. and so far only 3, now 4 sets have the term on the box( if i recall right)

4. because of this the community is using the term ucs for lego moc that are different to theirs system scale brother (p.EX.; bigger, complex build, greeblings and loot s of details....)

[ummester]

So wait a minute, the big Falcon isn't actually UCS and the new Sandcrawler is?

Which boxes actually had 'Ultimate Collector Series' written on them - not what sets have been termed UCS by fans, not the Ultimate Collectors Millennium Falcon - which boxes were actually denoted like Yoda above? Wouldn't they be the only Ultimate Collector Series and all the others just be Ultimate Collector one offs?

After a quick bit of research it appears the only sets that are unarguably UCS are:

7181, 7191, 7194, 10026 & 10030.

The new Sandcrawler is Ultimate Star Wars Collector's Series, which is something entirely new.

10019 (which I thought was the most sought after old UCS set) isn't even UCS going by the box designation.

Edited July 23, 2014 by ummester

[Robert_88]

I'm afraid there will be no conclusion! If you like a set, but it!

[ummester]

yea, which is kind of my point - UCS as a designation is ultimately pointless and the collection of UCS only is ultimately impossible, because the line is not clearly defined.

I agree, collect what you want. Better still, build what you want - that is the true beauty of LEGO - you get to build what you want, make things how you want. Collection misses the point a bit, IMO. The UCS Falcon in an unopened box is like the dark side of the force, where as 10 random Chima pieces on a table are the path to the light side

I can see that TLG does encourage collection with denotations like UCS and golden minifigs and the like - but I recon it kind of works against the power of it's own product. I did get pulled out of my dark ages by collecting Star Wars stuff though, so I do understand the hook.

Edited July 23, 2014 by ummester

[GallardoLU]

here is a bit more mud for the waters that are UCS... Lego Group made a poster just before the SSD came out a few years ago... personally I do not use it as a definitive list from Lego for the UCS line. (plus there are newer sets that are still subject to my opinion, as they haven't been defined yet) take note, there are no X-wings shown! no yoda either. but worth looking at some of what Lego classes as Ultimate.

Edited July 23, 2014 by GallardoLU

[Chills]

Maybe this has been asked, but what's the big deal about having a definition of what sets are UCS and which aren't? Is this so a completist can say they have all the SW UCS sets?

Honestly, I think if TLG marks a set UCS, then that's what it is. If TLG doesn't mark it then it's not a UCS set.

But what does it matter? Does not having the UCS label make a set more or less enjoyable? Or even more or less desirable?

[kongman]

which sets are ucs , the ones that noobs overcharge us lego collectors for on ebay.....lol...jk

[OCD_Chad]

7181, 7191, 7194, 10019,10026, 10030, 10143, 10174, 10179, 75059, 75060, 75095, 75098, 75144, 75159, 75181, 75192

[Cylo]

On 7/8/2014 at 10:31 PM, legoman19892 said:

Sand Crawler definitely had the UCS sticker on it's vitrine when it was released.

It is EVEN ON THE BOX.

but that doesn't mean that us lego fans define it as a ucs

it doesn't even have a plaque

[Ether]

This is a total popcorn thread. Nerds arguing over which plastic buildable toy fits their specific agenda.

?????

[anothergol]

On 7/8/2014 at 1:34 PM, 1974 said:

You may not feel the recent UCS offerings are true UCS 'cause they lack a sticker/have minifigs/rubs you the wrong way, but they are in fact UCS, exactly because TLG says so

Yeah but he's a collector, and maybe wanna resell later, so what matters to him is the perception out there, rather than a label.

Battle on Hoth isn't an "UCS" for anyone but Lego, & thus does it matter?

Also Ultimate means or implies final (which is something that *would* matter to a collector), and it's quite obvious that Lego is gonna remake most of them over & over, so..

And that is where I laugh at those who owned an "UCS" Millenium Falcon that was "worth" several thousands, for the only reason that it was the only way for anyone to buy a large MF. Today, their only hope is to resell it to other collectors, who will in turn expect its price to keep rising. A pure speculative bubble that will result in a couple of collectors holding the bags.
So don't trust "ultimate" because it's not, and the next release of it will look so much better than no one will wanna buy yours anymore, except a dozen of collectors around the world, vs the whole lot who stocked the latest UCS MF because they saw on TV that the previous one had gained 1000% in value.

Edited July 1, 2018 by anothergol

[OCD_Chad]

11 hours ago, Ether said:

This is a total popcorn thread. Nerds arguing over which plastic buildable toy fits their specific agenda.

?????

And I am not sure why.  It either has UCS on the box/instructions or it doesn't.