[REVIEW]: 75058 MTT

[Phil Slender]

Set Name: MTT

Set #: 75058

Theme: Star Wars

Pieces: 954

Minifigures: 12

Year of Release: 2014

MSRP: USD $89.99

INTRODUCTION

When the picture of the 2014 summer wave minifigures leaked and everyone saw Obi-Wan, Qui-Gon, and the Naboo Guard with the number 75058, speculation began as to what the set could be. Many of us, like me, hoped it would be a new AAT, perhaps with a flash speeder as well. Others speculated it was a new MTT, since a new one appeared in a Yoda Chronicles video. The latter were correct, and here we have LEGO's third minifigure scale MTT, which is a store (I believe TRU in the US) exclusive. Its official release date is August 1, but many stores already have them on shelves.

My reason for buying this set was primarily because I missed out on both previous MTTs. I wanted the 2000 version when I was kid, but my parents thought it was too expensive and looked bad (which I admit, 7184 was a pretty awful set) and I was in my LEGO dark ages when the 2007 version hit shelves. I also didn't have Obi-Wan or Qui-Gon previously since I mainly stick to buying OT sets, so I wanted to acquire them as well. Was this set a good investment? Stay tuned to find out!

I apologize ahead of time for the photo quality. I am out of state doing an internship, so I don't have access to my usual set-up including white backdrop and real camera (instead of camera on my tablet) so just keep that in mind. Here is the back of the box, demonstrating all of the play features. It seems that play features were a big priority (perhaps too big) for LEGO with this set, given how many openings and hatchs are in this thing. I guess since the vehicle is just a big brown tank they needed to make it more interesting.

The set comes with an impressive twelve figures, nine of which are droids. At first I was confused why they featured both Battle Droid (x6) and another Battle Droid separately, until I realized that technically the eighth one has a non-blaster holding arm since he rides the STAP in the back. If you like droids, this is a great way to build your army. I know some people are disappointed there aren't more since the last MTT contained 20, but personally, 8 is enough for me.

Here's the contents of the box. You get 6 numbered bags (technically two bags are labelled '3') and 2 instruction manuals with cardboard to protect them. The sticker sheet is covering it, but the robot is saying WIN! which is a refreshing change from that annoying kid.

Speaking of the sticker sheet, here it is. It's actually not too bad, there's only seven stickers total, and they're all on simple pieces (no curves or round edges), so it wasn't too frustrating.

MINIFIGURES

Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan look fantastic. They are my firsts, so I love them, but the printing and detail is phenomenal, and they don't suffer the recent trend of too many facial lines like some of their counterparts.

Both of them are double-sided. Obi looks quite angry, and I love Qui-Gon's raised eyebrow.

The Naboo Security Guard is also very well done. Nothing to complain about here, and he has a really cool hat!

And battle droids. Nothing special about these guys.

THE BUILD

To give you an idea of the building experience, I took a picture after each bag was complete. Here's Bag 1:

After Bag 2:

After Bag 3:

After Bag 4:

After Bag 5:

Finished Product:

STAP:

Included with this set is a STAP and battle droid to ride it. STAPs have come a long way since their introduction in 1999, and I can't find much fault in this design. It is stored in the back of the MTT, which reminds me of the original AT-AT and AT-TE's back compartment for a speeder bike. Unfortunately, it takes up a lot of space, so almost the entire back end of the tank is dedicated to carrying the STAP.

MTT:

The MTT itself is not massive. It's actually rather small, and seems a bit short in length. It's closer in size to 7184 than 7662. Unfortunately, I don't have the other two, so I can't do a comparison shot.

However, the back is beefier than previous iterations.

From certain angles though, I would argue it captures the shape of the MTT better than both previous versions.

As I mentioned in the beginning, this thing has a lot of compartments. The back contains the STAP, a mechanical droid, and a weapons rack (on the other side). You can also reveal the driver, who for some reason is supposed to hold his gun while driving according to LEGO, and below him are the spring-loaded launchers, which is nice since they actually work well unlike the flick-fire missiles. The front rack only holds 6 droids, which isn't much but since that's all you get in the set anyway, it works.

CONCLUSION AND RATINGS

Minifigures: 8/10 - The Jedi and Naboo guard are fantastic, and the fact this set contains 12 minifigures is awesome, but since 9 of them are droids (and arguably there should be more droids since this is a droid carrier after all) I have to deduct a couple points.

Parts: 8/10 - If you like brown, this is awesome. But there are some unique pieces I have never seen before including a smooth circlular 2x2 with a hole in the center.

Build: 9/10 - I actually really enjoyed building this thing. A lot of Star Wars sets get repetitive since symmetrical ships involve lots of repetition, but LEGO broke up the similar areas of this set quite well, and made the overall experience quite fun.

Price: 8/10 - Okay, so yes, this is a fair price since its less than 10 cents per piece, but it really doesn't feel like a $90 set. My last LEGO Star Wars purchase was the 2013 AT-TE (also a $90 set) and while I didn't pay full price for that one, it feels more like its worth the price tag despite being less pieces. Perhaps because the set is so dense and built inside-out, it doesn't leave a very big footprint and makes the set as a whole feel less significant.

Design: 9/10 - I probably will be criticized for this one, but I actually think its designed very well. The Technic foundation keeps it strong and maintains the vehicle's integrity, and the shape of the design captures an MTT very well. I know there are holes and gaps, but in person, they don't actually look that bad.

Playability: 8/10 - LEGO really prioritized playability with this set, and it shows. The number of compartments and play features make a boring vehicle a bit less boring.

Overall: 83% - Overall, I am happy with this set. As someone with little shelf space left, its small stature is actually a good thing for me. By no means is it a must-buy for fans, nor will it be remembered years from now, but I still think its a solid vehicle that lives up to what it is supposed to be. It's certainly an improvement over 7184, but without owning 7662, I can't say its the best one yet. Cosmetically, I think it looks the best, but for play purposes, 7662 is still probably the strongest set given the size and figures. For those growing their clone and droid armies, this makes a great addition to their Trade Federation army (and I'm sure some may MOC it for their Separatist army) as well.

However, I can't imagine it will sell very well, given the timing of its release. With Episode I completely irrelevant right now, its hard to imagine many kids begging their parents for this set, and given the price tag, it certainly won't be an impulse buy for most. I think $89 is a bit high for what you get. While you get a lot of pieces, it feels more like a $70 or $80 set when it's done. I really wish there was an AAT or 'Battle of Naboo'-type set to accompany this release, because without those, there's nothing for this vehicle to interact with in the current lineup. But if you're like me, and don't have many prequel sets or an MTT yet, I do think its worth it and who knows if or when we'll ever get an MTT again.

Hope you guys enjoyed reading this!

Edited July 21, 2014 by Phil Slender

[Only Sinner]

Thanks for doing such a fine review, Phil.

The MTT was easily one of my favorite vehicles from Ep1. I never had the privilege of owning a LEGO version of one of these either, and would consider getting this. Probably will wait for a big clearance sale, though as like you said, the MTT is probably not going to be a very popular seller. I like that it's good for smaller shelf space, too since that is a major factor in deciding what sets get built and what ones stay in their boxes for a very long time.

[wesker]

Thanks for the review. I do have a few mixed feelings about the set. It definitely captures the shape of the MTT better than the last two sets did, yet I can't help but feel disapointed by the tiny droid rack when the previous edition could hold 16 battle droids. The gaps also make it seem a bit hollow and unfinished, but from the looks of things they should be an easy fix with a few basic bricks.

Qui-Gon and the Naboo Security Guard are fantastic though. I really hope we get some more Naboo themed sets in the next Winter wave because it would be a shame not to see more of the guards. Obi-Wan is fairly decent, but its a shame he's still using that generic male hairpiece. The one Kanan Jarrus uses would have looked a lot more accurate. His face could use a bit more detail too since its a bit plain compared to the other heroes in the Star Wars line.

I might wait until this one's on sale.

[Ritz Brick]

Great review, your pictures make it look a lot better than previously thought. I'll definitely be passing on this one. The previous version is so much better. I'm getting a bit tired of Lego overusing the same printing on the legs for the Jedi.

[Lobot]

Hi Phil, thanks for the review!

It looks better than I thought it would, but it's a shame that it's smaller than the previous version, although that seems to be consistent with the recent trend. I'll be interested to see if this is a TRU exclusive in the UK, and how much the RRP will be. I'm guessing about £70....

[TheBrickHitHouse]

I really like it, much better than the initial images suggested. If it's £70 in the UK then I'd say fair enough - it will be £90 though...

I have 2 of the last MTT and I can't really see this one as much competition. That said, it's colour scheme and shape do seem more accurate.

[Rishab N]

Nice review. The MTT is one of my favorite vehicles although I don't like that its smaller now

[Blackice200]

Thanks for the review! On the set though, I actually like it. The whole "no floor" thing doesn't really bother me, there's not many play areas inside anyways. Ok, it may be smaller, but it's also more accurate. The only thing I don't like is the fact that the droid count is lower. (Even though I've got baseplates full) ;)

Edited July 20, 2014 by Blackice200

[K-Nut]

Thanks for the review! I'll probably end up picking this up, though it's not my favorite model of the wave. The gaps on the sides bother me a bit, but some modding can fix that. I don't understand why go to the trouble of giving Qui-Gon a dual sided head if the only difference is the raised eyebrow. I would've much preferred an angry face for him as well, but I'm fine with what he has. The hair on Obi-Wan has always bothered me, though. I'd agree that the new Kanan Jarrus. The Naboo guard is great and has such lovely details for a generic troop.

[AudiBobaR5-D2]

Now that I have read this MTT review, I'm more interested in getting the set when it releases later this month or early next month (or whenever it does). Missed out on 7184, and especially 7662 with it's ever high prices. The lack of high number droids don't really bother me, but whatever the final price is of 75058 will no doubt I think be reasonable.

Great review

[AwesomeBantha]

The MTT could carry 112 battle droids with their standard blaster rifles in a hydraulically powered deployment rack. This rack extended out from the face of the MTT, allowing the droids to be deployed directly into combat if needed. The rack was also detachable.^[1]

We get 6 battle droids. Seriously? 7662 cost $50 more, was bigger, and contained a whopping 20 of them!

Anyways, Great review, Phil!

It's a shame that LEGO didn't make this a bit better-last year's 75021 Gunship was a huge improvement over 7676, came with excellent minifigures, and cost the same as its predecessor.

The MTT is obviously the "Gunship" of the trade federation, and I don't understand why TLG just cheaped out on it. This set had so much potential, and they just disappointed us-the TFOLs and AFOLs. Granted, LEGO is a toy company, and this is for ages 8-14. But something tells me this won't sell well...

[Phil Slender]

In many ways, this new MTT reminds me of the new Star Destroyer, and recent trends in general. Like its predecessor, it's smaller and contains less pieces but cosmetically looks much more accurate to the real thing than the previous generation. Are some of the play features sacrificed? Yes. Like the Star Destroyer losing a command bridge you can actually put minifigures in, the new MTT contains less than half the droid capacity as the previous one. But when you look at them side by side, I think its clear that the newest version looks the most accurate (like the newest ISD). Here's a side by side comparison with 7662, 75058, and the real thing. With 7662, the back end is just too small and the face is too wide.

[rollermonkey]

There's a problem with your comparison image, Phil: only one has anything in it for scale comparison, the left one.

I'm betting that with a droid in each of the other two, 7662 starts to look a whole lot better.

[Mahtion]

Was brown the most accurate color for the new MTT?

[Artizan]

yes:

[Phil Slender]

There's a problem with your comparison image, Phil: only one has anything in it for scale comparison, the left one.

I'm betting that with a droid in each of the other two, 7662 starts to look a whole lot better.

I wasn't comparing for scale, just shape and design of the model. Because realistically, none of them are even close to being scale accurate since the real thing holds 112, not 16 (like 7662) or 6 (75058). But again, I know a lot of people judge the best model based on size and droid capacity, so I understand why 7662 is a favorite to many, I was just saying the shape of the tank is less accurate in my opinion.

Edited July 22, 2014 by Phil Slender

[Robianco]

yes:

I'd have probably said that looked more like Dark Flesh / Medium Dark Flesh... but then again I don't think there's a huge range of bricks in that colour!

[rollermonkey]

I think the combination of scale and shape together is a better gauge of accuracy than either one alone... 7662 has a very nice shape and a much better scale. 75058 has a very nice shape, but the scale is pretty weak.

All those inappropriate openings in the new one take away a lot for me...

I did think of something interesting, concerning scale. The minifig droids can't fold anywhere near as compactly as the movie ones. So, either way, these MTT would hold quite a few more than the 16 or even 6 that these sets come with at the current scales.

[Phil Slender]

I did think of something interesting, concerning scale. The minifig droids can't fold anywhere near as compactly as the movie ones. So, either way, these MTT would hold quite a few more than the 16 or even 6 that these sets come with at the current scales.

That's a really good point. I didn't think of that. In 75058, the droids are basically just standing with their heads down. It's ridiculous, and each model could probably hold at least 3 or 4 times the amount they do now if they folded up as much as the movie ones.

[duboismerci]

Great review!

Made me buy the set

[Darth Nader]

In many ways, this new MTT reminds me of the new Star Destroyer, and recent trends in general. Like its predecessor, it's smaller and contains less pieces but cosmetically looks much more accurate to the real thing than the previous generation. Are some of the play features sacrificed? Yes. Like the Star Destroyer losing a command bridge you can actually put minifigures in, the new MTT contains less than half the droid capacity as the previous one. But when you look at them side by side, I think its clear that the newest version looks the most accurate (like the newest ISD). Here's a side by side comparison with 7662, 75058, and the real thing. With 7662, the back end is just too small and the face is too wide.

{Snip}

I agree with you on the fact that the remakes of big models are a little worse compared to their predecessors, especially on the MTT. The MTT in 2007 was spot on and lego should have simply re-released it instead of redesigning it, consider nothing about it was dated, not even the droids.

[Anticyclone]

Thank you for the review! This is a tough one. The MTT is my favorite PT vehicle and I already own the 2007 version, but I'm still debating whether I should buy this. Those gaps in the structure, and the amount of droids don't really bother me, it's the size that's bothers me. It should at least be the same size as the previous one.

[TheWolffe]

Great review, but it's shown me something.

With more accurateness, the set looses more function. Honestly if they just combined the size and function of 7662 with the accurate shape of 75058. This would be a perfect set.

It feels like a prototype to me with all the holes and exposed technic. I can't see this being an MTT. It's more of a miniature troop transport than a multi troop transport.

A set I was considering getting but I think I'll put my bucks on The Ghost/Phantom instead. It's a shame really, was looking forward to it.

[duboismerci]

I finished building mine. I modded it and now it can fit 12 droids in folded position. I only used parts from the set: the extra pieces and the few parts I removed from the inside so the droid would fit.

Now it's really a Multi Troop Transport

From what I saw there is no way to fit more then 12 droids without touching the structure. In that case you will need a lot of parts,

[Phil Slender]

I finished building mine. I modded it and now it can fit 12 droids in folded position. I only used parts from the set: the extra pieces and the few parts I removed from the inside so the droid would fit.

Now it's really a Multi Troop Transport

Pictures? I'm curious how you did it only using pieces from the set.