4 or 6 stud wide cars, which do you prefer ???

[Brick Miner]

at the request of hinckley, we have a poll !!!

DO YOU PREFER 4 OR 6 STUD WIDE CARS ???

*feel free to expand on your poll idea, hinckely.

personally, i have some interest in this... since, the 2007 city line has really captured my imagination. however, i like how LEGO is handling it now, 4 stud wide cars and 6 stud wide trucks. i even like the 8 stud wide 18 wheelers (though i know most AFOL think this it too wide). i like the variety, and think it adds a lot of dimension to town vehicle building. the variations between 4, 6, and 8 stud vehicles is one of the main things that captured my attention with the 2007 line. and why i am now a town collector again (though, on a limited budget ;-) ).

- Brick Miner

[El Bucanero]

Although I think 8 studs would be the best to give the figs some comfort, 6 would look a bit more sleek, thus a bit better (In my opinion). So that's 6 studs for me! Yeah, six studs wide cars look the best:

I saw another six-wide beauty the other day but I'm not able find it anymore. :'-(

Mr Tiber

Edited June 7, 2007 by Mr Tiber

[Hinckley]

It's time to move on to the future of realistic cars. Six wide, two seaters! Since LEGO is making a jump in realism and adding more details to it's buildings like CC and Market Street the cars should be more realistic too. Cars are big machines that can fit more than one person! And with all the new car pieces, mudguards, grills, etc. they've introduced with the Racers line, there's no reason we shouldn't have more realism in passenger cars in the city line. 6 wide cars fit on the road plates just fine!

6 wide on!

[Mr Hobbles]

I voted for 6 wide "cars" as I assume this poll is referring to the new style trucks and stuff.

More specifically though I prefer 6 wide for trucks and stuff as LEGO has been doing. I'd rather they kept cars as 4 wide, such as the one that comes with the new Service Station.

EDIT: I should note I also like the 8 wide haulers and stuff. So my vote technically goes for 4 wide cars, 6 wide trucks, and 8 wide haulers and stuff.

Edited June 7, 2007 by Mr Hobbles

[simonwillems]

I voted 4 studs wide.

As a classic-town (80's 90's) fan I own about 200 different cars, most of which are in four wide. Four wide is standard for me. I do like the variety in studs, some older vehicles were in 6 wide (mostly larger trucks, cranes etc.) but still I think Lego is about four-studs-wide-cars.

Lego (cars) will never really be true to scale and that has it's charms: just look at the pistols, knives, apples, banana's, croissants.... how true to scale are those? Isn't that great? I think it is! *y*

[Hinckley]

I voted 4 studs wide.

Boo!

While I'm sure that booing someone who has a different opinion than you is somehow against the TOS, I couldn't find anything specific, so...

Boo! ;-) Just kidding simonwillems. I totally respect your opinion, or at least your right to have one. But come on! Four wide should be for jetskis and riding lawnmowers!

Six wide on!

Boo!

[natelite]

I'm voting more from a practical stand point. Since we are already accustomed to the 4 stud cars, 6 stud trucks we should stick with the scale. Ideally, I think 6 stud cars and 8 stud trucks are better but we have so many models with the former scale that it would not be practical to rework all existing models to those size.

[simonwillems]

Boo! ;-) Just kidding simonwillems. I totally respect your opinion, or at least your right to have one. But come on! Four wide should be for jetskis and riding lawnmowers!

Boo!

Tssss...... :-P

By the way, how about five-wide-cars, they are nice too? :-)

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[Hinckley]

I'm voting more from a practical stand point. Since we are already accustomed to the 4 stud cars, 6 stud trucks we should stick with the scale. Ideally, I think 6 stud cars and 8 stud trucks are better but we have so many models with the former scale that it would not be practical to rework all existing models to those size.

Sometimes, traditions and customs need to be challenged. An important thing I learned in Comm class in college that arguing that something is right just because it's the way it's always been done is a false argument. Think outside the box! Challenge tradition! It's the only way we discover new things!

I hear patriotic music swelling in the background, am I running for office or playing with LEGOs?

[tedbeard]

I hear patriotic music swelling in the background, am I running for office or playing with LEGOs?

Long Live the Glorious 6-wide Revolution! *sing*

Seriously, after getting Escape From Privet Drive and building the blue Ford I could never go back to 4-wide. Two minifigs should be able to sit side by side. What else is there to say?

[oo7]

6 wide.

greater realism = better model

[Khorne]

6 wide. It's just more realisticly to have 2 seats in your car than one. Plus, I think they look better, too :-) .

[zeki]

4 wide cars, 6 wode regular trucks and vans, 8 wide heavy duty truck!

I love the lego at the moment :)

[Brick Miner]

wow, i actually thought this thread wouldn't have much life... as i assumed 4 wide would stomp 6 wide !!!

to me, the variety is great... so im either looking at 4, 6, and 8 stud wide vehicles, or 6, 8, and 10 wide vehicles. i have heard from many that they feel 8 stud wide vehicles are too large for the road plates, so 10 would be out of the question.

i voted for 4 stud wide cars, however, i would be up for 6... though, they would also need to make new road plates to match. im just happy that LEGO introduced a town theme i like (2007 line), and i have no grips about it, except that i want to see more !!!

so i stand firm in my vote for 4 stud wide.

i as well, love the LEGO of the moment !!!

- BrickMiner

BTW, hinckely are you proposing that LEGO also widen the road plates with this 6 stud wide revolution ???

[Hinckley]

- BrickMiner

BTW, hinckely are you proposing that LEGO also widen the road plates with this 6 stud wide revolution ???

No, no! I'm saying that six wide vehicles fit the current road plates so...

6 wide on!

[Brick Miner]

No, no! I'm saying that six wide vehicles fit the current road plates

so where does that leave trucks ??? same width as cars or would trucks all go to 8 studs wide ???

again, i love the variety thing... id be sad if both cars and trucks AND 18 wheelers were all the same 6 studs wide :'-(

- BM

[Hinckley]

so where does that leave trucks ??? same width as cars or would trucks all go to 8 studs wide ???

again, i love the variety thing... id be sad if both cars and trucks AND 18 wheelers were all the same 6 studs wide :'-(

- BM

I don't know. I don't have time for that discussion. This is just about cars! ;-)

But seriously, either way would be cool. I'd be fine with 6 wide for both or 6 wide for cars and 8 wide for trucks. I'm just anti-4 wide, unless it's a jetski or a riding lawnmower.

[Brick Miner]

I don't know. I don't have time for that discussion. This is just about cars! ;-)

:-D

but you have have to admit, you have to look at the big picture... cars are just one small element to the entire city line. things have to be cohesive ;-)

uniformity and element-relationship is an important factor in conceptualizing a theme... even a low-concept theme like city.

- BM

[Hinckley]

:-D

but you have have to admit, you have to look at the big picture...

I don't have to do anything! ;-)

cars are just one small element to the entire city line. things have to be cohesive ;-)

uniformity and element-relationship is an important factor in conceptualizing a theme... even a low-concept theme like city.

- BM

Exactly, so cars should be bigger. I'm glad you agree.

[The Emperor]

I prefer 4-Stud-Wide-Cars, since Lego first started out with them.

[alex54]

4 stud wide cars for me, of course! I think it's not a surprise for anybody... :-P

I understand what you meen Hinclkey, with tradition, but I don't think that making 6 stud wide cars will bring more details cars. Just look the new 6 stud wide trucks. They are 2 stud larger than the old ones, they are beautifull and nice designed, but I don't find them more details by themselves. Maybe yes they have rear view mirrors, but where are the doors? And where are the 2 seats?

So I don't think that if TLC will introduce bigger cars they willlooks like you want.

And like Simonwillems said, anything in LEGO is well-scaled. Just look at the minifigs, do they have human proportions? No! So stop with the tradition and please TLC, give us some more realistic minifigs...

4 wide cars, 6 wide trucks is a good compromise for the size of the vehicles.

Maybe all the recent cars have the same general look, just using different colours, but I don't think that it's a fatality, TLC should use some other pieces, and some already existing ones, to make new front and back cars and mix the style to bing some diversity. Like I say before, I think that we can have 4 wide cars with some nice details in it, but without two minifigs beside.

However, I don't say that 6 wide are :-X, I like how they look like, but in a moc, not in TLC sets...

And what about the 2 wide cars from the very old sets? :-P

[tedbeard]

but you have have to admit, you have to look at the big picture... cars are just one small element to the entire city line. things have to be cohesive ;-)

Actually that is why I like 6-wide cars.

6-wide = cars & vans

7-wide = trucks

8-wide = trains

These dimensions allow for more realistic building, fit together nicely, work with current road plates and are still viable trains for engines to pull. If you took trucks to 8-wide you would have to make trains 9 or 10-wide and that would burn out motors too quickly from what I understand.

[Mr Hobbles]

I maintain that 4 wide cars are fine. If you make cars 6 wide, then trucks need to be 8 wide, and haulers need to be 10 wide which is just far too large.

hinckley39: Yes, road plates fit 6 wide vehicles fine, but this isn't a reason on it's own to make cars larger. I'm fine with making buildings larger and more to scale, in fact I welcome it, however I feel that 4 wide cars are fine. They look good enough for scale, I think it's just the limitation of brick/stud design that you can't fit two people into one. I definently think a 6 wide car would be too large.

Then you have to think on the effect this will have on the price of sets. I think if you were to make 6 wide cars, in order to keep the current price for a car I think you would have to make all the pieces large and <insert that tiresome argument>.

Regardless, even if you were to make cars 6 wide you still can't fit two people in one! Nope, I think the 4 wide cars/6 wide trucks/8 wide haulers combination is fine.

EDIT: Noooo! Don't change the minifigs! I'm completely 100% opposed to this! The minifig is iconic and realistic enough while remaining a toy. Please no!

Edited June 7, 2007 by Mr Hobbles

[alex54]

Exactly, so cars should be bigger. I'm glad you agree.

I don't think that Brickminer thinks that when he said that elements need uniformity and element-relationship in term of size. Just take the new gas-station, Do you really think that a 6 wide car will suit well? And the answer is... no!

And all those oversized things make LEGO looking like DUPLO or PLAYMO! So sad! Just look that new plane! I really think that TLC has made a big mistake with it! Maybe a 4 wide plane is too small, I agree, but a 6 wide will have been so better! And please, don't speak about 8 wide trains...

And another thing, if everyting is bigger, the price will be too, so not for me ;-) !

Nice poll!

EDIT: Noooo! Don't change the minifigs! I'm completely 100% opposed to this! The minifig is iconic and realistic enough while remaining a toy. Please no!

Don't worry, I don't want that! It was to show that why do we need more realistic-scaled cars if anything are in the so nice and lovely world of LEGO...

[SalvoBrick]

4-wide cars forever! 5-wide for vintage cars or SUVs, 6-wide for trucks or large vans.

6-wide cars are too big and requires more bricks to be built.

Yes, I'm a traditionalist, and I'm proud of this! :-)