rollermonkey Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Just wondering, has anyone has any trouble getting the new droid troop carrier? I went to Legoland the other day and saw no sign of it. My local LEGO stores are already expecting it to go on deep clearance earlier than normal... They had dozens on the shelves and more up top... and more out back, and they aren't selling very well at either store. Anybody who isn't completely sick and tired of battle droids probably already has dozens or even hundreds. Quote
Flieger Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 That’s correct, but the next best thing to old grey is the current grey, so why did they drift so far away with dark-tan? Honestly, while I appreciate the Rebels-sets, especially AT-DP and Tie, Lego made a lot of odd choices in the colouring of the minifigs. The officers' uniforms, Sabine's helmet, the Tie-pilots' jumpsuits (they are grey in the show), the AT-DP drivers' jumpsuits, Kallus' uniform. That is strange, especially considering how great the minifigs are. Me too, I was hoping one black uniform officer would make appearance in Rebels so we might get those new caps in black, and that’s another reason to make me angry at the dark-tan ones since we’re getting the awesome new cap in a useless color while we’re missing the other essential one. At least the Imperial crewmen had screen time, so they'd been a good choice for the Gozanti-cruiser. And they have black caps. (I hoped for Imperial crewmen in new sets anyway. I would have loved them in a micro-fighter). Quote
Khaled Yousef Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 Flieger: so the black cap has made an appearance in Rebels? That’s awesome, thanks for giving me back hope. Maybe we’ll see them crewmen in the next wave, that would be great… unless LEGO decides to make them reddish brown or something. Quote
Gremer Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 I got the Troop Carrier and I really like it. Battle Droids don't really bother me though, but I can see why they'd bother other people. Quote
Tjahzi Posted February 25, 2015 Posted February 25, 2015 I got the Troop Carrier and I really like it. Battle Droids don't really bother me though, but I can see why they'd bother other people. Same. I actually like the vehicles very much. I might pick up one more if they get a decent discount. Quote
Clone 01354 Productions Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Honestly, while I appreciate the Rebels-sets, especially AT-DP and Tie, Lego made a lot of odd choices in the colouring of the minifigs. The officers' uniforms, Sabine's helmet, the Tie-pilots' jumpsuits (they are grey in the show), the AT-DP drivers' jumpsuits, Kallus' uniform. That is strange, especially considering how great the minifigs are. It is truly a shame. Really, I don't even want to pick up any Rebels sets considering how most of the minifigs are ruined: Sabine is red instead of pink (because, you know, boys can't have anything pink. And if you are a girl who collects LEGO Star Wars....well, tough luck.), Kallus is black (uniformed....), Ezra still has black hair.....And I'm sorry, but I still cannot get used to the Inquisitor. With the neckpiece, his head looks fat, and the printing is just off. Let's all just hope that the TFA minifigs look better. Quote
GuyDudeMan27 Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) It is truly a shame. Really, I don't even want to pick up any Rebels sets considering how most of the minifigs are ruined: Sabine is red instead of pink (because, you know, boys can't have anything pink. And if you are a girl who collects LEGO Star Wars....well, tough luck.), Kallus is black (uniformed....), Ezra still has black hair.....And I'm sorry, but I still cannot get used to the Inquisitor. With the neckpiece, his head looks fat, and the printing is just off. Let's all just hope that the TFA minifigs look better. I agree they're kinda bad, but it's not too horrible. What it boils down to is that we still get well printed figs in our sets. I think the inquisitior still looks cool, but a longer head would help. I am genuinely disappointed about Sabine's helmet though. I may end up ordering a custom one. We'll see. I think that because TFA is live action opposed to CG, I think the figs will look better. I also think TLG will care more because after all, it's Episode VII. Edited February 26, 2015 by GuyDudeMan27 Quote
James Wellington Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Me too, I was hoping one black uniform officer would make appearance in Rebels so we might get those new caps in black, and that’s another reason to make me angry at the dark-tan ones since we’re getting the awesome new cap in a useless color while we’re missing the other essential one. I agree! We need not only the hat, but an officer in black (with insignia and all). Edited February 26, 2015 by James Wellington Quote
Krusi86 Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Just wondering, has anyone has any trouble getting the new droid troop carrier? I went to Legoland the other day and saw no sign of it. Here in iceland theres no sign of the troop carrier and hailfire droid Maybe they will be coming later (hopefully) All the other sets have come Quote
saibot Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Here in iceland theres no sign of the troop carrier and hailfire droid Maybe they will be coming later (hopefully) All the other sets have come Same here in Ireland, neither of those sets in the shops. Quote
Krusi86 Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Here in iceland theres no sign of the troop carrier and hailfire droid Maybe they will be coming later (hopefully) All the other sets have come Oh and i forgot anakin custom starfighter no sign of him either Quote
Flieger Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 Flieger: so the black cap has made an appearance in Rebels? That’s awesome, thanks for giving me back hope. Maybe we’ll see them crewmen in the next wave, that would be great… unless LEGO decides to make them reddish brown or something. I hope it was black... maybe it was just olive-grey like the officers (it was in the movies, actually), but I think the cap in Rebels was darker than that: black. Here is a screenshot: Quote
deskp Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 ^that hat is dark grey tho. with black detail. Quote
Flieger Posted February 26, 2015 Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) ^that hat is dark grey tho. with black detail. Well, I'd say that too. But then in Lego-terms, I'd probably go for black because it seems darker than the officer's olive/dark-grey cap: ...which is interesting since the caps of the crewmen and the officers in the movies were of the same colour: edit: now that I see the comparison, it looks like the crewmen have slightly different uniforms in Rebels, too. Edited February 26, 2015 by Flieger Quote
Artanis I Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 now that I see the comparison, it looks like the crewmen have slightly different uniforms in Rebels, too. ...and none of them can see anything. Drives me nuts and looks so dumb. Quote
Sir Gareth Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 ...and none of them can see anything. Drives me nuts and looks so dumb. They do that to hide the fact the same animation model is being used over and over. Quote
Artanis I Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 They do that to hide the fact the same animation model is being used over and over. They have chosen the greater of 2 evils. You can tell it's the same face anyway. Quote
The Executive Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I hope it was black... maybe it was just olive-grey like the officers (it was in the movies, actually), but I think the cap in Rebels was darker than that: black. Here is a screenshot: That looks so dumb. Like what is he looking at? His visor is completely covering his eyes. I think this might be an example of Disney cutting Rebels budget so they don't have to animate their eyes so much but this is pretty funny. I'm actually starting to miss Clone Wars a little bit. Quote
Khaled Yousef Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Perhaps it’s an artistic choice to show how dumb the Imperial personnel are. Anyway, I see now that the crewman’s cap is grey not black… hope is gone again, guess I’ll have to use black paint on the existing cap, until we get a proper black uniform officer. Quote
Raskolnikov Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 I'm pretty sure that a big reason why they hide generic Imperials' faces with the caps is because it's a cartoon aimed at kids. Almost every episode involves killing human beings, and I think the show creators are very conscious of that. They clearly try to avoid explicit killing so long as it doesn't hurt the story (i.e., lots of Imperials are disposed of by getting stunned or tied up, etc.). Plenty of Imperials die, though, including the guys in the screenshot above. That's necessary given what the story is about. When parents see their kids watching a show where faceless stormtroopers are getting killed by lasers, though, they're probably ok with that because it's so far removed from real life. Part of that is because masks or helmets that cover the face are dehumanizing. Police and militaries know that, which is one reason why most riot helmets for police have clear visors that reveal the officer's entire face (i.e., rioters are less likely to hurt an officer if they can see his face). Similarly, kids shows like this one tend to avoid killing people with faces, who you can empathize with, on screen. Parents might think their kids are being turned into desensitized little killers, etc., otherwise. Quote
Khaled Yousef Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Interesting point of view, although I think the violence in this show, or any other cartoon with killing, will not necessarily create people who think killing is cool, yet the embedded psychological message in this particular show, which is far more destructive than mere violence, is aimed at creating a vandalizing anarchist government-hating generation to spread chaos around the globe… I wonder why parents don’t worry about that… but that’s another story that doesn’t belong here. Quote
Sir Gareth Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Did no one read my above post? "The Clone Wars series could reuse a single crewman model multiple times to populate a ship, since they were intended to be identical, cloned servicemen. The Imperial crewman have to have their hats pulled low to conceal the fact that the same animation model is being used over and over again." (starwars.com) Quote
Khaled Yousef Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Well Sir Gareth, to be fair you didn’t mention you got that information from starwars.com in your previous post; so I guess we assumed it was your own opinion on the matter. Quote
Raskolnikov Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Well, they certainly can choose what they want to spend time and money on when producing the show. They could potentially have cut costs somewhere else if they didn't choose to here. And I think there can be multiple considerations or factors underlying a corporate decision. Quote
Flieger Posted February 27, 2015 Posted February 27, 2015 Regarding the face-hiding caps I may add that it adds to the Empire's military being an anonymous mass of faceless goons. I think it is actually pretty symbolic that only the high-ranking officers are individuals in the series. I was never bothered by the lack of individuality. Think positive: it is not a bug, it is a feature. Anyway, I see now that the crewman’s cap is grey not black… Sure, but remember Lego does not have an infinite colour palette. They have to make compromises in the colours. Therefore the dark olive-grey of the officers is represented by 'dark stone grey' (the same Gandalf, e.g., uses). If you want to represent a colour tone darker than that with Lego colours, you have to choose black. (That was the very problem with Kallus! The concept art showed a grey darker than the usual officer grey and Lego went with black). Lego's colour choices have been strange, so we never know what they'll choose when they do a Rebels crewman... my bet is stone grey or black. The bigger problem is that Lego does not do any new Rebels sets this year other than the Gozanti. Anyway, I second the need for a black imperial officer. Lego should have done him right with the first micro-fighter wave. It was the perfect chance and they missed it. Quote
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