Kelso Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) I see what you mean. But it feels like current 10179 owners are getting robbed, especially those who bought it back in the day on release. I've saved up alot of money to buy that Falcon, to have this great epic ship. Then it comes a new one, more refined, and I stand here with the "outdated" version that cost me tons of money. Edit: Do you feel what I mean? :) But you still have an amazing Falcon, only a different version. I suppose it would be less valuable if a new version came out but I don't see a problem with that. I think the ones being robbed are those who buy the original UCS Falcon for thousands of dollars; I wish LEGO would release a new one so we can buy it at retail price again and not get robbed. I completely agree with that. Edited March 9, 2015 by Kelso Quote
Virani Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 I think the ones being robbed are those who buy the original UCS Falcon for thousands of dollars; I wish LEGO would release a new one so we can buy it at retail price again and not get robbed. I don't understand how people don't get this. Quote
Clone 01354 Productions Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 But it feels like current 10179 owners are getting robbed, especially those who bought it back in the day on release. I've saved up alot of money to buy that Falcon, to have this great epic ship. Then it comes a new one, more refined, and I stand here with the "outdated" version that cost me tons of money. Well, LEGO doesn't really care if some fans want to feel special. LEGO makes no money from the UCS Falcon selling on Ebay, so from their perspective, releasing a new one would make complete sense. And for newer fans who couldn't get the Falcon back then (like me), a new release would be an easy way for us to get one. Saying that you paid a lot for yours, and so LEGO should not release another version is an incredibly ridiculous thing to say. Quote
Kodan Black Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 (edited) I see what you mean. But it feels like current 10179 owners are getting robbed, especially those who bought it back in the day on release. I've saved up alot of money to buy that Falcon, to have this great epic ship. Then it comes a new one, more refined, and I stand here with the "outdated" version that cost me tons of money. This is how it goes in any industry. You buy a new car and next year's model has more features. You buy a new camera and next years has more megapixels. If you bought something expecting it to be the last version ever produced you shouldn't have bought something from a mass market toy company. Unless TLG goes out of business, there is always a chance they release a better version down the road, when you factor in it being a lynchpin of the SW property it only makes it far more likely they release a new version. Edited March 9, 2015 by Kodan Black Quote
legolandia Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 I see what you mean. But it feels like current 10179 owners are getting robbed, especially those who bought it back in the day on release. I've saved up alot of money to buy that Falcon, to have this great epic ship. Then it comes a new one, more refined, and I stand here with the "outdated" version that cost me tons of money. Edit: Do you feel what I mean? :) Why would you feel robbed? If you bought the set because you like it then you can continue to enjoy it for years to come. It becomes an "antique" however that doesnt mean it devalues. If you bought that set as an investment then I'm afraid I have no sympathy for you at all. I don't see why the thousands of people who want it today should be punished for the sake of few hundred people that bought the Falcon back in the day. When you purchased the set it did not come with the guarantee that it will never be made again. Quote
Fuppylodders Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 I bought minimum 5500 pieces to make a minifig scaled AT-AT. If they release a UCS one, do i have a right to 'feel robbed'? God no! Thats how it goes regardless of the name or letters on the box (of a mf). It's business. Id be happy knowing I have the option to buy a better one if I wanted to, or make do/be happy with the one I have. Anyhoos... This has been brought up many times about the 10179, the donkey has been dead for years and doesnt need to be beaten anymore. TLG will do what TLG will do. Quote
DarthTwoShedsJackson Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 LEGO is about the multiple possibilities you have with just two bricks - and the potential that comes with every brick you add to these. It's about constructing your dreams and creativity. Whoever sees LEGO as a collectible or an investment before anything else should better check if he has a warped perspective on the hobby. That being said, the right thing to do would be to release a new large Millenium Falcon. Quote
Legoman123 Posted March 9, 2015 Posted March 9, 2015 When are we likely to see pictures of the TFA sets? Quote
Fulcrumfan91 Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Yeah I couldn't possibly understand why one would feel robbed...I mean...I get the feeling that you buy something once, then another cooler version comes out and you feel that 'aw maaan' feeling come over you...but that's to be expected..this is a toy company, their focus is on children, not adults. The fact that adults love it too is just an extra benefit for them. I've missed out on TONS of Star Wars sets and this is why I love that lego releases rehashes of those sets. They look even cooler than before, and I can have the satisfaction of buying it and owning it at last. I guess I feel a little frustrated at myself for purchasing the slave 1 of 2010 when the gorgeous ship that came out for UCS came out this year...but I don't in any way regret having the original from 2010...lol if anything, this saves me some money. And yeah, I wonder when we would be seeing TFA pics....I'm hoping we get to see some of them when the trailer comes out...but that's just hoping Quote
Tariq j Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I agree with the above, I thinks it sounds a bit childish to say that Lego should never release another Falcon just because you paid alot for yours. Lego is a toy not an investment or a business. Quote
Darth Malgus Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I own a UCS MF its mib, woul I sell it? No. Do I know hoe much money I'm losing as soon as I open it? Yes, I don't care its about the toy for me and not the investment. I understand peoples desire to get this set, do I hope lego make another? Yes and no, I'll explain: I agree that another is inevitable, I hope they at least see out the new trilogy first, at least it can have a new slant once the movies are finished perhaps add to the legacy? Now for the No part of my response. Personally I don't want to see this rehashed while there are other iconic ships that have yet had the UCS treatment such as the vulture droid, perhaps an ARC-170, AT-AT, A-wing... Not saying these are better than the MF just would like to see them expand upon what hasn't been done before a new one. If they do release it I will be getting it, I did with Red 5. I'd just like something new to get the treatment first. So my no, is a no with some caveats applied. Quote
hallonsylt Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 (edited) First of all, I have not bought any of my models as an investment, I want to showcase them an enjoy them for my viewing pleasure. There is no way I would sell my models. My Falcon was used when I bought it, I just wanted the fantastic ship. I guess I'm not like most of you in the forum that enjoy building more then viewing. I'm that collector guy. Once I've build a model I often do not rebuild or modify it, I'm not really into MOCs either. But that does not mean I don't appreciate Lego for what it is. Lego is really beautiful to me. Every day I walk into my room I look at my models and they put a smile on my face. As for TLG... There had to be a reason for them to produce the model in a limited quantity? Or should we re-release some rare minifigs? Like the Cloud City Boba Fett? What is the point of having a collectors series if things are not exclusive? Of course I understand that a new Falcon would be really great and alot of people would be happy since there is such a huge demand. But I can't help to feel bittersweet if that would happend. My concerns are not, in any way, in line with value in money upon a re-release. If I would have been in for the money I would not invest in Lego... My concerns are that the integrity of a set being SPECIAL is not kept. Yes, special sets really make me feel better. Haha Edited March 10, 2015 by hallonsylt Quote
Blondie-Wan Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I get why you would like the AT-AT, but why a Falcon? The current one looks amazing. And is not the whole point of it to be rare "dayum I wish I had that one"-ish? Just personal preference No, actually, I don't think that is supposed to be the point - if it were, they'd be limited editions of a certain number determined at the outset, rather than just selling as many of them as they can like any other set. I see what you mean. But it feels like current 10179 owners are getting robbed, especially those who bought it back in the day on release. I've saved up alot of money to buy that Falcon, to have this great epic ship. Then it comes a new one, more refined, and I stand here with the "outdated" version that cost me tons of money. Edit: Do you feel what I mean? :) Yes, because making a new UCS Millennium Falcon totally means LEGO would break into your home and steal the one you have. Quote
Kodan Black Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 But they won't re-release the same model. Even if they release another special, limited edition MF that isn't the same model. So it won't impact the "specialness" of the one you have. It would only matter if they decided to release the same model in the same exact box. Quote
Kelso Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Excuse my ignorance but is the 75094 Imperial Shuttle minifigure scale? Or half minifigure scale like the 75106 Imperial Assault Carrier? Quote
Spyderlord Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Excuse my ignorance but is the 75094 Imperial Shuttle minifigure scale? Or half minifigure scale like the 75106 Imperial Assault Carrier? Of course not. 10212 Imperial Shuttle (UCS) was minifigure scale and was almost three times as large. Quote
Pulp Detective Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Any ideas when we'll start hearing news about the TFA sets?? Quote
hallonsylt Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I am clearly quite alone in here regarding my opinions around the MF ^^ I don't want to act "toxic" towards the rest of you, so I'll just leave the discussion right here and now. I'll cross my fingers for that Vulture-class Droid Starfighter Quote
Clone 01354 Productions Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I am clearly quite alone in here regarding my opinions around the MF ^^ I don't want to act "toxic" towards the rest of you, so I'll just leave the discussion right here and now. No, you're not alone; I agree with you. But I don't feel like carrying on this pointless conversation, and I'm hoping that if I ignore it, it will just go away. Quote
Fuppylodders Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 I am clearly quite alone in here regarding my opinions around the MF ^^ I don't want to act "toxic" towards the rest of you, so I'll just leave the discussion right here and now. I'll cross my fingers for that Vulture-class Droid Starfighter You are far from alone, as I alluded to earlier, this has been brought up many many times and gets heated between both sides quite quickly which usually ends in a debate over what UCS *actually* means, which never gets agreed upon, a mod comes along and people change subject. I am with you that it would be nice to see things done that have yet to be done by TLG, and I think they hit the nail on the head with the Slave 1 while the Tie leaves a lot to be desired (just have a look at the MOC someone posted in the ucs tie thread for an example). The MF was pretty spot on considering how many years ago it was done, so a new version would have high expectations placed upon it instantly. Anything new and not done yet would of course be better and not judged on a previous iteration, more on the source material alone. Im hoping that the unfounded, but still a rumour, that the Hoth base is actually an ATAT is true as the motorised version wasn't really something Id be happy to have as a display piece next to the beautifully designed 10212 or Slave 1, but something id have said is a nice gimmicky lego plaything... Now Im going completely off topic :s Quote
Navy Trooper Fenson Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 As for TLG... There had to be a reason for them to produce the model in a limited quantity? Or should we re-release some rare minifigs? Like the Cloud City Boba Fett? What is the point of having a collectors series if things are not exclusive? Of course I understand that a new Falcon would be really great and alot of people would be happy since there is such a huge demand. But I can't help to feel bittersweet if that would happend.My concerns are not, in any way, in line with value in money upon a re-release. If I would have been in for the money I would not invest in Lego... My concerns are that the integrity of a set being SPECIAL is not kept. Yes, special sets really make me feel better. Haha Lego designed the set with no price point in mind and because of that the set ended up with a price tag far outside of what Lego thought would sell and indeed the Falcon didn´t seem to sell that well as he had a far shorter shelf live than any of the other giant UCS sets (Executor, 2002 ISD, 2008 Death Star). I would say everyone had his chance to get the set and the constant babbling in these threads of "rumors" of an UCS Falcon rerelease is obviously more motivated by children being impressed by a set that costs them their pocket money of four and a half years and wanting to seem like they could afford spending this much on a single set than serious collectors wanting to buy the set.* Are 3 years enough? I would say yes, at least back then in 2008-2011 where every 100+ set had the same lifespan and you could plan with it years in advance compared to now where they randomly pull sets from shelves and leave other stuff for nearly a decade. I am in a similar boat because I realized I would like to own the Imperial Flagship from the Pirates line as it is the only good looking ship Lego ever made but I know I made the wrong decision completely on my own because I could have ordered anytime in its three years but I chose to get the Black Pearl because it was cheaper and I didn´t really pay attention to the colors of the ship back then. But I take it and instead of paying the ludicrous price of 450€ on Ebay I am just going to wait for other ship sets and maybe build a nice one myself out of my own and bricklinked parts but no way I am going to pay more than 150€ for anything. I would say "collectors item" should just stand for a extraordinarily well designed item and not necessarily just something you have to pay a premium for because of crappy distribution. The Hasbro Black Series comes to mind where they made Carbonite Block Han Solo a Comic-Con exclusive bundled with a Boba Fett and never released him again even though it is literally a simple block of plastic and they even made a Jabba the Hutt Comic-Con exclusive where they could at least have reused him but chose to just put in a printed piece of cardboard. They really should rerelease the Cloud City Boba and when they are already at it another Cloud City outfit Lando so people don´t have to pay 50 and up for a damn main character. A Falcon rerelease should not be held back because of this kind of bullcrap, if anything it should be because of the true reasons: Because it didn´t sell well and nobody actually bought it and because Lego should get on with the prominent ships that still haven´t gotten UCS versions. *I don´t want to imply that everyone that still wants the UCS Falcon is a child but the vast majority talking about it and bringing up the discussion again and again, year after year are. Any ideas when we'll start hearing news about the TFA sets?? September/October, probably the latter. No, you're not alone; I agree with you. But I don't feel like carrying on this pointless conversation, and I'm hoping that if I ignore it, it will just go away. As if. Quote
Jedi-Bendu Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 September/October, probably the latter. Eh?The sets will be released in september.....so we'll most likely see more of it this summer Quote
hallonsylt Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 The Tie leaves a lot to be desired So true :/ It's too bad the scaling is not up to par... Still it looks cool That sure is some food for thought Navy :) I feel quite bad tbh. All you long-time members has to endure new guys like me bringing old stuff up^^ Now let's get back to those 2015 sets shall we? :D Quote
Kodan Black Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Eh? The sets will be released in september.....so we'll most likely see more of it this summer Isn't Sept 4th the date they all come out? Quote
Clone 01354 Productions Posted March 10, 2015 Posted March 10, 2015 Even if I were a collector back in '07, I'm not sure I would've been able to drop $500 (more than half my annual LEGO budget) on a single set. I've bought expensive sets before in the $200-$300 range (Sandcrawler, Ewok Village, etc.), but those only take up about 30% of my budget. If a Falcon came out this year, there is no way I would've been able to get it. Between TFA sets, Tyderium, Slave I, etc., I'm already exceeding my usual budget, and spending an additional $500? No...... If LEGO does decide to release a new Falcon, one of two things would need to happen: 1) It drops in price (but this would sacrifice piece count) 2) It would need to be released in a boring year, where I don't spend much on any other sets. Or, they could just leave it on shelves for more than a year...... Quote
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